Why Should Jesus Love Me?
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Lansdowne, PA

#527646 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Cuneiform tablets have been discovered as far back a 3,500 BC, so Genesis could have very well have first been written 5,500 years ago.
I concur to some level.
The earliest cuneiform tablets were composed by the Sumerians titled the Enuma Elish amongst their other ones. They were very lenghthy in composition compared to only approx. 11 first chapters of the Hebrew Genesis.
The Sumerians were polytheistic.
So if the Genesis accounts were taken from the Sumerian ones then that would indicate the same with the Hebrews.
As archaeoplogy shows, the Hebrews prior to the 1st millenia were polytheists.
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527647 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Moses' lifetime was calculated at being during 1391–1271 BC, so there's no way he would've known what generations of Adam were. There's also no way he would've known what happened.
I concur.
It would be mere speculation, at least through the lenses of the bible.
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527648 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Either God told Moses all of it, or Adam knew how to write in cuneiform also.
Either on makes sense to me.
Again, mere speculation.
If speculations make sense to you then what can I say?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#527649 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> And PLEASE.........for the love of GOD, GET God, so that you can understand.
I have both.

Sorry. my friend.

The "I know God" crap doesn't work with real believers.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#527650 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I have both.
Sorry. my friend.
The "I know God" crap doesn't work with real believers.
Lol...

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#527651 Apr 30, 2013
Why on earth do so many Christians spend so much time and effort bitching about the sex life of others ?

Why are you all so fascinated by homosexuality ?

Aren't there any murderers and rapists you could be trying to change ?

Aren't there starving children you could be feeding ?

I think you all need to spend more time in bed with your own spouses...

...or is that the problem ?
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527652 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text> If Adam wrote his book of generations in cuneiform, Moses could read it. Moses was educated in 'all the wisdom of the Egyptians', and was strong in words and in deeds.
Genesis 5:1 says: "This is the book of the generations of Adam." This suggests that the that art of writing was known within the lifetime of Adam. It's absurd to think that God would allow this sacred information to the fraile mid of humans, there's no way they could remember it all.
Again, "If" is not factual, just mere speculation.
Yes, according to Genesis, Moses was well versed in the Egyptian culture, but there is no indication that such knowledge made him decode a mere speculated Adamic texts.

BTW, did you know that the name "Moses" is Egyptian?
Why did a Hebrew god who was pi$$ed at the Egyptians for a multitude of reasons allow Moses to keep his name?
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527653 Apr 30, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Ptah smiles...
lol
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527654 Apr 30, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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wrong
Chris is rightbut if you call somene Liar,it doesn't mean in the Gods sight this person id LIAR,
rather you are hateful Liar hiocrite posting or telling about second strnage person such words that he/she is Liar.
Bible spiritualy point to 2 groups
1.Children of God seating by the table of God
2/children of devil unbelievers seating by the table of devil eating devil spiritual viomits,and insult the God and The Lord daily?
so?
did you learn little bit something good to you spirituaaly unmaturity and little infant understanding Gods Word Bible.
Are you his guardian angel?

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#527655 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I have both.
Sorry. my friend.
The "I know God" crap doesn't work with real believers.
No it doesn't work with REAL believers, but that does not apply to YOU, you don't even believe Godf's Word, so what makes you a "real believer"?
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527656 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, I've heard that's the latest fashionable fad amongst skeptic circles.
However, they are quote different and Genesis was written first.
Here are some major dissimilarities:
EE records "successive generations of gods and goddesses" who are subject to typical weaknesses such as hunger, thirst, and sex drive; Genesis records but one God, though He had company of unspecified nature (Gen. 1:26), with no such weaknesses.
The EE is a creation account to some extent, but most of it is devoted to describing a battle between the god Marduk (the "creator" as such) and Tiamat the goddess (who ends up being the raw material of creation), and to other non-creation issues, so that after tally, only about a third of it is on the subject of creation.
EE played a political and cultic role in the Babylonian religion and explained Marduk's rise to chief god of Babylon; Genesis does not mention Israel, Jerusalem, or the Temple, and served no cultic function [Sarna, Understanding Genesis, 9; I would suggest that this points to the Genesis account being more original].
Show verifiable and concrete evidence that the Hebrew text of Genesis was composed before the Sumerian text Enuma Elish?
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527657 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, I've heard that's the latest fashionable fad amongst skeptic circles.
However, they are quote different and Genesis was written first.
Here are some major dissimilarities:
EE records "successive generations of gods and goddesses" who are subject to typical weaknesses such as hunger, thirst, and sex drive; Genesis records but one God, though He had company of unspecified nature (Gen. 1:26), with no such weaknesses.
The EE is a creation account to some extent, but most of it is devoted to describing a battle between the god Marduk (the "creator" as such) and Tiamat the goddess (who ends up being the raw material of creation), and to other non-creation issues, so that after tally, only about a third of it is on the subject of creation.
EE played a political and cultic role in the Babylonian religion and explained Marduk's rise to chief god of Babylon; Genesis does not mention Israel, Jerusalem, or the Temple, and served no cultic function [Sarna, Understanding Genesis, 9; I would suggest that this points to the Genesis account being more original].
If you're not satisfied with the creation stories in the Enuma Elish then there are many other Sumerian texts to choose from.
ALL of them composed prior to the Genesis of the bible.
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#527658 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I agree with what you're implying, that most of the people in BC were pretty ignorant.
That's why I do believe that the bible is inspired by the hand of God.
What other explanation is there?
Aliens. Ya, that's it, aliens.
LOL

You have JUST hit the nail squarely on the head.
See?
I knew you could do it!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#527659 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> No it doesn't work with REAL believers, but that does not apply to YOU, you don't even believe Godf's Word, so what makes you a "real believer"?
For a start, I don't spell God with an f. LOL

Second, I don;t have to pretend to be or know something I clearly do not.

You are ashamed of your ignorance and think you can hide behind God.

Sorry. It doesn't work that way. All you prove is that you know nothing of reality (which IS God)

Since: Jul 10

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#527660 Apr 30, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Thank you too Boooots.
So you use to think like me and now think like you. I use to think like you and now think like me. Wait, what did I just say? LOL :)
Hope things are good your way.
HFN
Yes, things are very good my way. Thanks.

Since: Jul 10

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#527661 Apr 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That's fine. I'm not looking for anything from the believer, so I don't need to behave solicitously. The ridicule is not for their benefit.
We've both been at this long enough to know that the Christians are not really interested in dialectic, and there is no future in reasoning with them or in trying to keep them happy.
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The ridicule that I am advocating is of ideas and institutions, not persons. If people choose to take it personally, they are free to do that.
<quoted text>
Ridicule is most definitely NOT the game that they want to play.
[1] "If religion contained any truth, it could be ridiculed, insulted, even defiled, without being diminished in any way. Its truth would shine through: undimmed, unblemished, shaming those who abused it into silence. But that’s not how things are. Religion is prickly. It’s intolerant. It’s ultra-defensive precisely because it’s brittle and fragile. It’s about as substantial as a meringue. It’s all froth and no substance. It’s had thousands of years to make its case and all it’s produced is sophistry, violence and a raft of morals that would shame a rattlesnake." - Pat Condell
[2]“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus." -Thomas Jefferson
[3] "I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt, and I claim that right." – Christopher Hitchens
Can't find fault with anything you say, except the bottom line seems to be trying to keep the personal attacks going both ways to a minimum so that perhaps we can get some intelligent responses from people rather than defensiveness.

Agree 100% with you that if the claim of a God is true, then any ridicule from us should not affect the believers and God is quite capable (assuming He is what they think) of looking after Himself, and nothing we do would ever change that. People getting defensive on the believers side is strictly them thinking they are being attacked for being believers.

Believers, IMO, only deserve to be attacked when they are promoting things that go against humans, which seems to be what many of them do on this site.

However, both sides can still deal with personal attacks by downplaying the personal attacks and sticking to what we actually think about whatever the topic is about.

We have some posters here, regrettably, who do nothing but attack others, and I think that is their only purpose for coming here.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#527662 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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For a start, I don't spell God with an f. LOL
Second, I don;t have to pretend to be or know something I clearly do not.
You are ashamed of your ignorance and think you can hide behind God.
Sorry. It doesn't work that way. All you prove is that you know nothing of reality (which IS God)
No sir, the only thing that you can TRULY remark that it is yourself who do not know anything, don't speak for others, because I can back anything that I believe and have said with scripture, and the f in God in my previous post was a typo, ever heard of one before, I am sure that you have made them before as we all have.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#527663 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Chris Clearwater has already given a testimony of his own wife being freed by Christ from the clutches of the sin.
.. Chris Clearwater touts the success of the born-again experience every time he mentions his wife's lesbianism underscored by his homosexual proclivities. My goodness, they've become the Topix poster couple, the cure for homosexuality through Jesus. You believe him, I don't ..
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>and YOU could be so as well IF you chose to repent and believe.
.. there's nothing to repent ..
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Ignoring the rest of your post, I will say that I DO know that God can change someone's sexual orientation if they truly desire to be changed, if they want it deep down in their soul,
.. why must God 'change' someone's identity? Wouldn't that mean God had it wrong in the first place ??..
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>so you lie
INSULT #1
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>and speak out of ignorance
INSULT #2
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>when you state that it cannot be done, so kindly take your own advice.
.. I never said that. With desire and a strong will, some homosexuals refrain from sexual relations but still identify as homosexual, something you are unable to grasp ..
LAWEST100 wrote:
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There have been testimonies from people who was delivered from homosexuality
.. and, the vast majority have refuted their testimony ..
LAWEST100 wrote:
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because YOU have no faith or desire to be delivered from your own deluded lifestyle,
INSULT #3

.. you can't help yourself, can you ??..

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#527664 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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For a start, I don't spell God with an f. LOL
Second, I don;t have to pretend to be or know something I clearly do not.
You are ashamed of your ignorance and think you can hide behind God.
Sorry. It doesn't work that way. All you prove is that you know nothing of reality (which IS God)
Just to add..........do you realize how truly foolish you look calling someone else "ignorant" when you like many unbelievers have posted the atheistic junk that you have on topix over the years?

Being school to certain historical knowledge does not equate to Godly knowledge that comes from the only only, and in your own way you are just as 'ignorant' as those who openly admit that they do not believe at all.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#527665 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Just to add..........do you realize how truly foolish you look calling someone else "ignorant" when you like many unbelievers have posted the atheistic junk that you have on topix over the years?
Being school to certain historical knowledge does not equate to Godly knowledge that comes from the only only, and in your own way you are just as 'ignorant' as those who openly admit that they do not believe at all.
That's uncalled for Law... You have no idea what He believes.

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