Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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<quoted text>I hear someone say onetime, that if God don't judge America, He going to have to apologize for what he did to Sodom and Gomorrah. is a true thing, and God don't repent.
Yes, he is unchanging. As I read this this morning I thought of how these things sounded like the USA and the world today.

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Does Jesus say that gays are born eunuchs? So, basically, the sexual act is a sin, but the state of being born homosexual is basically just a calling to be celibate, or being born as a eunuch?
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because you sound like idiot not knowing what is eunuch,celibate,or homosexuals?
you spiritual bling left behind idiot
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<quoted text> Genesis was written back then. It WAS 7 tablets of cuneiform, and it was the Enuma Elish.
Yes, I've heard that's the latest fashionable fad amongst skeptic circles.

However, they are quote different and Genesis was written first.

Here are some major dissimilarities:

EE records "successive generations of gods and goddesses" who are subject to typical weaknesses such as hunger, thirst, and sex drive; Genesis records but one God, though He had company of unspecified nature (Gen. 1:26), with no such weaknesses.

The EE is a creation account to some extent, but most of it is devoted to describing a battle between the god Marduk (the "creator" as such) and Tiamat the goddess (who ends up being the raw material of creation), and to other non-creation issues, so that after tally, only about a third of it is on the subject of creation.

EE played a political and cultic role in the Babylonian religion and explained Marduk's rise to chief god of Babylon; Genesis does not mention Israel, Jerusalem, or the Temple, and served no cultic function [Sarna, Understanding Genesis, 9; I would suggest that this points to the Genesis account being more original].

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He must think we're pretty stupid.
We must be. Here we are, over 5,000 years later, still debating it.....

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Um...the understanding of the earth and stars at the time of the bible was that the earth was flat and the stars were embedded in a crystal dome.
Good job your bible did clarifying that misconception.
Right?
At what time? What "time of the bible"? When?

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How do your lies feel to you?
What lies?

Care to elaborate or will you continue to play like karl with your amazing one-liners?

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Dance, dance, dance.
Learning scares the shit out of you, doesn't it?

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from which Piramide Ptah smiles?
From the heart issues the utterance of the mouth...goodness causes the smile.

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<quoted text>True words. Thank you for helping me remember what is important.
As I read this this morning it spoke to me. I never intended for anyone in particular. It spoke to me this morning and this after noon after work it came to my mind that I should post it. So I did. If God spoke to you through this also, then may we both be blessed. I do believe that God is calling belivers to turn unto him with our whole heart. Be blessed, for you are :)

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<quoted text>From the heart issues the utterance of the mouth...goodness causes the smile.
His wit was not more conspicuous than the overflowing goodness of his heart, but the might of his smile.

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Yes, I've heard that's the latest fashionable fad amongst skeptic circles.
However, they are quote different and Genesis was written first.
Here are some major dissimilarities:
EE records "successive generations of gods and goddesses" who are subject to typical weaknesses such as hunger, thirst, and sex drive; Genesis records but one God, though He had company of unspecified nature (Gen. 1:26), with no such weaknesses.
The EE is a creation account to some extent, but most of it is devoted to describing a battle between the god Marduk (the "creator" as such) and Tiamat the goddess (who ends up being the raw material of creation), and to other non-creation issues, so that after tally, only about a third of it is on the subject of creation.
EE played a political and cultic role in the Babylonian religion and explained Marduk's rise to chief god of Babylon; Genesis does not mention Israel, Jerusalem, or the Temple, and served no cultic function [Sarna, Understanding Genesis, 9; I would suggest that this points to the Genesis account being more original].
Except that there were only 2 writings of "genesis" in the area then. One being the pyramid texts, and the other being the Babylonian texts. Israel or Judah did not even exist as states at that time, and neither did the bible or the Tanakh. Nor did Hebrew script. Jerusalem was Hittite ruled, and was merely a minor village, even in the time of Abrum and Sarai.

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Cuneiform tablets have been discovered as far back a 3,500 BC, so Genesis could have very well have first been written 5,500 years ago.
Moses' lifetime was calculated at being during 1391–1271 BC, so there's no way he would've known what generations of Adam were. There's also no way he would've known what happened.
Either God told Moses all of it, or Adam knew how to write in cuneiform also.
Either on makes sense to me. If Adam wrote his book of generations in cuneiform, Moses could read it. Moses was educated in 'all the wisdom of the Egyptians', and was strong in words and in deeds.
Genesis 5:1 says: "This is the book of the generations of Adam." This suggests that the that art of writing was known within the lifetime of Adam. It's absurd to think that God would allow this sacred information to the fraile mid of humans, there's no way they could remember it all.
Adam, of Adam and Eve?

So you're like, a fundy then?

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We must be. Here we are, over 5,000 years later, still debating it.....
Not stupid. Uninformed or ignorant maybe, but not stupid.

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His wit was not more conspicuous than the overflowing goodness of his heart, but the might of his smile.
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Except that there were only 2 writings of "genesis" in the area then. One being the pyramid texts, and the other being the Babylonian texts. Israel or Judah did not even exist as states at that time, and neither did the bible or the Tanakh. Nor did Hebrew script. Jerusalem was Hittite ruled, and was merely a minor village, even in the time of Abrum and Sarai.
Yup. It was originally written in cuneiform, which was plagiarized by the Babylonians to create their own religion and control their population.

But they faded into history, the Bible still lives on. And Christianity is still on the rise, as it has been for 2,000 years.

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Adam, of Adam and Eve?
So you're like, a fundy then?
Yes, Adam of Adam & Eve.

No, I'm not a fundamentalist. The bible says "6 days" of creation - I believe it was much longer than 144 hours,'fundies' don't.

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Yup. It was originally written in cuneiform, which was plagiarized by the Babylonians to create their own religion and control their population.
But they faded into history, the Bible still lives on. And Christianity is still on the rise, as it has been for 2,000 years.
You need ta put the beer away.
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You can think I'm wrong about the scriptures all you want, just remember that I'm not the one reading them like a novel, you are.
"Foundations of the earth", for example, is not a literal foundation of brick, mortar, concrete and rebar. I can't fathom why you would think it's literal.
You do the same with the "pillars of the earth", and the illustration you posted showed your mental image of literal pillars, a literal dome and a literal foundation
It's your inability to understand the bible that makes us not care what you think or post.
Do you honestly think the people of that epoch could grasp metaphors or understand an allegory? How high do you suppose their literacy rate was? When most of your audience has the IQ of a sandal, I thinks it's safe to say they will interpret everything quite literally. I refer to an audience since any copies of the Bible would have been rare commodities, hence the spoken word would be the primary source of information. Face it, they were primarily idiots...

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Not stupid. Uninformed or ignorant maybe, but not stupid.
Touché.

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Yes, Adam of Adam & Eve.
No, I'm not a fundamentalist. The bible says "6 days" of creation - I believe it was much longer than 144 hours,'fundies' don't.
I don't know of any clear definition of "fundamentalist".

I suppose it doesn't matter. Every Christian chooses how to interpret the Bible in their own way, or according to the way of another person.

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