Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#527519 Apr 29, 2013
Anon wrote:

Do you honestly think the people of that epoch could grasp metaphors or understand an allegory? How high do you suppose their literacy rate was? When most of your audience has the IQ of a sandal, I thinks it's safe to say they will interpret everything quite literally. I refer to an audience since any copies of the Bible would have been rare commodities, hence the spoken word would be the primary source of information. Face it, they were primarily idiots...
I agree with what you're implying, that most of the people in BC were pretty ignorant.

That's why I do believe that the bible is inspired by the hand of God.

What other explanation is there?

Aliens. Ya, that's it, aliens.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#527520 Apr 29, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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What is the word of god?
The bird is the word.

Haven't you heard?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#527521 Apr 29, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> What do you THINK it is?
Everybody's heard about the bird !
Bird bird bird, the bird is the word !

Don't you know about the bird?
Well everybody's heard about the bird !

Bird bird bird, the bird is the word !
Bird bird bird, the bird is the word ! Yeah !

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#527522 Apr 29, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I don't know of any clear definition of "fundamentalist".
I suppose it doesn't matter. Every Christian chooses how to interpret the Bible in their own way, or according to the way of another person.
And I suppose you think, due to your biases, that atheists interpret the bible flawlessly...?

"fundamentalist" has a clear definition and it's not me. Look it up.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#527523 Apr 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The bird is the word.
Haven't you heard?
No, Brian! DON'T!

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527524 Apr 29, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>Just as well, you're only making a fool out of yourself trying to argue over something that you are not Blessed to understand.
You mean gullible.
The word you should have used was gullible.

Or maybe naive, that works too.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527525 Apr 29, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>What "rules" would that be my dear rabbi?
We've gone over this:
Don't wear mixed fabrics, don't even touch pig-anything, sell your daughter to the highest bidder for her hand in marriage.

So on and so forth.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527526 Apr 29, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>What is the word of god?
Hate.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#527529 Apr 29, 2013


Turn up your speakers again it´s rock n roll time.
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#527531 Apr 29, 2013
Part 1

Boooots wrote:
I think you have confirmed what I previously said, and you are not familiarizing me with something I do not understand, as I too believed that for 40 some years, though I certainly never wanted to rush it, except on one day when I was at a real low in a very long depression.

HFN wrote:
I’m sorry you went through that but am glad you are still here. I’m so glad you found the medicine to make it better for you now.

Boooots wrote:
The problem with that approach is it is fine, if, what you believe and do not know, to be true, actually, by some strange supernatural miracle, turns out to be true anyway, but if you are wrong, which I have no reason to not think you are but only a bit of evidence that you are, then you are diminishing the value of what you can enjoy in the living body by thinking it is secondary to what your bodiless spirit might enjoy after the body is dead.
Even if you are right, which neither you nor I know the truth of, I think you are still batting better to maximize the enjoyment of what you know exists now. You know you are alive and you know much of what is out there to appreciate; you do not know if a life exists after death (even if you think and state that you know).

HFN wrote:
If I am limiting the sins I can enjoy in the body that’s a good thing. Sure some of them are fun but they do not bring you real joy, peace and happiness. The wrongs will sooner or later turn to into a negative for you. A negative that could bring great sorrow to you. At least that’s what I found out, sooner or later. No, I would rather have the joy, peace and happiness that comes from God. I’m not talking about what comes after our bodies die here but the here and now while we are living on this earth.

Boooots wrote:
If you KNEW that an afterlife was definitely a proved state then this conversation would not even have got started on this site.
I would be interested in how you have felt the hand of God, and I am sure the world would like to know that too, as it might remove any doubt from 7 billion plus people's minds as to what or who God is, or if He exists.

HFN wrote:
I don’t feel led to go in great detail but for one thing I am alive. God has taken care of me more than once. From cancer to being told someone was going to harm/kill me. I am thankful for the grace of God in allowing me to have faith in Him to get me out of things I thought would be fun but that turned bad (sooner or later) There are other things but they are private.

Continued
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#527532 Apr 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Brian! DON'T!
I think you're confusing the Beach Boys with the Trashmen. Why the hell do I give a shyt?
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#527533 Apr 29, 2013
Part 2

Boooots wrote:
I am sorry if you feel that participating in a discussion is making fun of your beliefs. I try to be nasty only to people who are promoting hatred by specific bigoted ideas that they attribute to their belief in a god. I have no tolerance for bigotry, and I will not dignify a bigot or his comment by being overly polite to him because I think he is a real problem to our world.

HFN wrote:
I agree a bigot is not a good thing. I also say that there are a lot of bigots outside of the faith too. They just don’t see it that way when they are being one. You are nicer that some, I will give you that. But I sometimes read a dislike for Christians in your posts. But I’m not perfect, far from it sometimes.

Boooots wrote:
If that seems like bigotry, I do not promote hatred against or discrimination against even devout believers, but I will always stand against those who promote hatred against any group of people. I try very hard to never do that myself, though I am sure that occasionally I unconsciously say something that seems like a put down of certain groups.

HFN wrote:
Don’t most of us, beliver or not? There are some really nasty posters on topix (both sides) and sometimes they succeed in getting our dander up.

Boooots wrote:
I will admit that I have become overly conscious of extremely obese people, because Canada, almost as bad as the USA, has a very large majority of overweight and obese people now, and I not only find them not very attractive to the eye, but also upsetting to my intelligence because I cannot imagine how people would allow themselves to get that obese.
I admit my feelings are not very kind, but I never advocate nor vocalize them to others except my wife, and she and I seem to both be similarly sensitive to seeing these people, possibly because we live in a section of the city where there is an inordinate number of them that show up in our nearby stores and malls. We even had on our floor for a number of years two sisters in separate apartments, who would be two of the heaviest people in the world, I am pretty sure, close to our age. Unfortunately for them, they both died at around 60 to 62 years of age and not very far apart in time either.
I also still have a similar reaction to smokers, but having had to put up with them for 66 years, I keep those feelings to myself also, but just see them as not only being addicts, but if young, not being too bright, because they could not possibly have grown up thinking that smoking was a positive thing to do, not in an environment where smoking has been condemned for several decades, and outlawed indoors for a decade or so.

HFN wrote:
It is called over indulging. Of course sometimes obesity can be a medical problem. I think a lot of us over indulge whether it be food or something else.:)

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#527534 Apr 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Brian! DON'T!
Forget it RR, you are talking to a bird BRAIN.
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#527536 Apr 29, 2013
high end wrote:
<quoted text>
Herro.
Jesus is the only way to what?
Salvation
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#527538 Apr 29, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
common courtesy and compassion have nothing to do with you lesbian or male gay
child born with 2 balls is not gay only male,
child born with p... is not lesbain only infant girl
eunuch is man or women having not any desire of any sexual earthly pleasure,
not f....man second man a... or stimulate or suck second women by women clitoris for sexual stimulation?
please>take basic elementary courses,and learn what a gender is, what eunuch is
and what biblical purpose is to have sexual act and enjoyment to be part of humanity
You are full of s...and farts without of courtesy, common sense,or any basic understanding of gender,or Love and Love enjoyment??
Romans 1;24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleaness through the lusts of their own wicked hearts,
to dishonor their own bodies between themselfes
THIS INSPIRE PASSAGE TAKING ABOUT SCUMBAGS LIKE YOU AND GAYS MALES.
Lev 18;22.Jude 7-8
NOT ABOUT EUNUCHS
HL is a lesbian punk.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#527540 Apr 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
And I suppose you think, due to your biases, that atheists interpret the bible flawlessly...?
No.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
"fundamentalist" has a clear definition and it's not me. Look it up.
I looked it up. It's not clear.

The label doesn't matter that much. What matters, is that you seem to believe that the human race started with two people named Adam and Eve.

A lot of Christians no longer believe that, because it's ridiculous.

Do you believe the Flood Myth too?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#527541 Apr 29, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
egiptian god idol Ptah doesn't cause any smiles from his goodness?
do you know who egiptian god idol Ptah was?
The great architect.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#527545 Apr 29, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
For a little while I am here. Good to greet you too Sister Friend.
(((*()*))) You are looking fine! xx
What did I miss?????
<quoted text>
Ooops... Hope I'm not adding to 'awkward'. Just saw some definite and interesting ones on return now.~~smile~~ tho maybe long winded...
... b-u-t you know all about little books, Ja? They grow! How have you been?
Been good Sweet Sister ~ thought some of the recent conversation in here might have put you off... glad it didn't, you would be very sorely missed!! And yes, I know about little books growing LOL

(((*()*)))

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#527547 Apr 29, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
MORE
god of carpenters and craftsman handwerk belonging to the old pagan egiptian triads etc..
mostly masons(masonery cult) worshiped this ancient god?
thank you
MORE

Hymn to Ptah

Hail to You, You who are great and old, ta-Tenen, father of the gods, the great god from the first primordial time who fashioned humanity and made the gods, who began evolution in primordial times, first one after whom everything that appeared developed.

He who made the sky as something that his heart has created, who raised it by the fact the Shu supported it, who founded the Earth through that which he himself has made, who surrounded it with Nun and the sea, who made the Duat and gratified the dead, who caused Re to travel there in order to resuscitate them as Lord of Eternity and Lord of Boundlessness, Lord of Life.

He who lets the throat breathe and gives air to every nose, who with his food keeps all humanity alife, to whom lifetime, more precisely, limitation of time and evolution are subordinate, through whose utterance one lives.

He who creates the offerings for all the gods in his guise the great Nile, Lord of Eternity to whom boundlessness is subordinate, breath of life for everyone who conducts the king to his great seat in his name : "King of the Two Lands".

Papyrus Harris, British Museum, XXth Dynasty, ca.1150 BCE, painted papyrus, from Thebes, height 42.5 cm., in : Morenz, 1973, p.182.

__________

"Everything is created "in his image", but the latter rises in the heart and by the tongue of Ptah, the ultimate cognitive cause of every thing".

Ptah was later known as Amun (god with no name) after Akhenaten (when the Hebrews left Egypt).

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#527548 Apr 29, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
Part 1
Boooots wrote:
I think you have confirmed what I previously said, and you are not familiarizing me with something I do not understand, as I too believed that for 40 some years, though I certainly never wanted to rush it, except on one day when I was at a real low in a very long depression.
HFN wrote:
I’m sorry you went through that but am glad you are still here. I’m so glad you found the medicine to make it better for you now.
Boooots wrote:
The problem with that approach is it is fine, if, what you believe and do not know, to be true, actually, by some strange supernatural miracle, turns out to be true anyway, but if you are wrong, which I have no reason to not think you are but only a bit of evidence that you are, then you are diminishing the value of what you can enjoy in the living body by thinking it is secondary to what your bodiless spirit might enjoy after the body is dead.
Even if you are right, which neither you nor I know the truth of, I think you are still batting better to maximize the enjoyment of what you know exists now. You know you are alive and you know much of what is out there to appreciate; you do not know if a life exists after death (even if you think and state that you know).
HFN wrote:
If I am limiting the sins I can enjoy in the body that’s a good thing. Sure some of them are fun but they do not bring you real joy, peace and happiness. The wrongs will sooner or later turn to into a negative for you. A negative that could bring great sorrow to you. At least that’s what I found out, sooner or later. No, I would rather have the joy, peace and happiness that comes from God. I’m not talking about what comes after our bodies die here but the here and now while we are living on this earth.
Boooots wrote:

HFN wrote:
I don’t feel led to go in great detail but for one thing I am alive. God has taken care of me more than once. From cancer to being told someone was going to harm/kill me. I am thankful for the grace of God in allowing me to have faith in Him to get me out of things I thought would be fun but that turned bad (sooner or later) There are other things but they are private.
Continued
Thank you for taking the time to reply politely, and since I think I have addressed most of the things you said before, I won't go through them and respond again. I do respect Christians, and likely a part of me favors Christians over some other people, because I spent so many years as a Christian believing all the others were wrong. It is a hard feeling to kick, even when you intellectually know that it is not a healthy attitude to have about other people, just because they don't have the same beliefs.

I guess the Christians I don't respect, who would not really be true Christians in the sense of following the teachings of Christ, IMO, anyway, is those using their beliefs to demonize other people who do nothing to harm anyone, and are demonized, basically, only because they exist.

It is offensive to me that humans, who are suppose to represent a religion which preaches love, are so hateful.

My not believing any longer that there is a God, and believing the Bible is not truthful, is really almost independent of my feelings about Christians. I didn't change my opinions of people I know, in most cases, but really just came to an understanding that what I had learned through life was not a truth, but a fabrication, that likely was honestly and innocently taught to me, because those teaching it actually really believed it to be true.

I know my parents believe(d) it to be true, as did my grandparents, and many of the people I most respect in my life.

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