I think you have confirmed what I previously said, and you are not familiarizing me with something I do not understand, as I too believed that for 40 some years, though I certainly never wanted to rush it, except on one day when I was at a real low in a very long depression.<quoted text>
You are looking at it in a different way than we do Boooots,
It is seeing an existence without all the woe we have here. Not just personal woes but the woes of others too. Who would not see that as a better life? Does not mean we will off ourselves. The truth be known what ever your circumstance in this life on earth, God makes a better way to live it.
Anyway thatís my 2 cents on it.
The problem with that approach is it is fine, if, what you believe and do not know, to be true, actually, by some strange supernatural miracle, turns out to be true anyway, but if you are wrong, which I have no reason to not think you are but only a bit of evidence that you are, then you are diminishing the value of what you can enjoy in the living body by thinking it is secondary to what your bodiless spirit might enjoy after the body is dead.
Even if you are right, which neither you nor I know the truth of, I think you are still batting better to maximize the enjoyment of what you know exists now. You know you are alive and you know much of what is out there to appreciate; you do not know if a life exists after death (even if you think and state that you know).
If you KNEW that an afterlife was definitely a proved state then this conversation would not even have got started on this site.
I would be interested in how you have felt the hand of God, and I am sure the world would like to know that too, as it might remove any doubt from 7 billion plus people's minds as to what or who God is, or if He exists.
I am sorry if you feel that participating in a discussion is making fun of your beliefs. I try to be nasty only to people who are promoting hatred by specific bigoted ideas that they attribute to their belief in a god. I have no tolerance for bigotry, and I will not dignify a bigot or his comment by being overly polite to him because I think he is a real problem to our world.
If that seems like bigotry, I do not promote hatred against or discrimination against even devout believers, but I will always stand against those who promote hatred against any group of people. I try very hard to never do that myself, though I am sure that occasionally I unconsciously say something that seems like a put down of certain groups.
I will admit that I have become overly conscious of extremely obese people, because Canada, almost as bad as the USA, has a very large majority of overweight and obese people now, and I not only find them not very attractive to the eye, but also upsetting to my intelligence because I cannot imagine how people would allow themselves to get that obese.
I admit my feelings are not very kind, but I never advocate nor vocalize them to others except my wife, and she and I seem to both be similarly sensitive to seeing these people, possibly because we live in a section of the city where there is an inordinate number of them that show up in our nearby stores and malls. We even had on our floor for a number of years two sisters in separate apartments, who would be two of the heaviest people in the world, I am pretty sure, close to our age. Unfortunately for them, they both died at around 60 to 62 years of age and not very far apart in time either.
I also still have a similar reaction to smokers, but having had to put up with them for 66 years, I keep those feelings to myself also, but just see them as not only being addicts, but if young, not being too bright, because they could not possibly have grown up thinking that smoking was a positive thing to do, not in an environment where smoking has been condemned for several decades, and outlawed indoors for a decade or so.