“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526507 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
[The church] doesn't define [who is moral and who is to be despised.] already, hasn't in a while.
You wouldn't know or care. You're not a target. From http://atheists.org/content/bigotry-worst-aga...

"Bigotry Worst Against Atheists - The Ultimate Outsiders? New Report Casts Atheists "Others" Beyond Morality And Community In America - March 25, 2006

"A new study ... has found that Americans perceive Atheists as the group least likely to embrace common values and a shared vision of society. Researchers concluded: "Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in 'sharing their vision of American society.' Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow their children to marry."

"Disturbingly, Atheists are "seen as a threat to the American way of life by a large portion of the American public," despite being only 3% of the U.S. population. Edgell said that Atheists "play the role that Catholics, Jews and communists have played in the past" in that we provide "a symbolic moral boundary to membership in American society."

You'd have to be a pedophile to be despised more than an atheist. Where do you suppose that meme is coming from? Islam? The Rotary Club? McDonalds? The NFL? The PTA? Two And A Half Men?

That's your church. In Western societies where your church has faded from prominence, so has that hatred of atheists.

And where do you suppose American homophobia is coming from? Chik-Fil-A? People Magazine? The Good Will? Gay's are called filthy right here on this thread. Who's doing that? Not the humanists. That's the Christians again, carrying water for their church.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526508 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Not sure what 'harm' churches are causing gays and atheists.....
Don't worry about it. We've got it covered.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You're gonna have a problem with shutting down one of the earth's oldest scientific laboratories - the Vatican.
I'm not aware of any issue there.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
May its god be removed from the money, pledge, law books, monuments and courthouses.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Even though it's completely legal and sanctioned by nearly 80% of the population?
Those will very likely both change.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
We have [widespread literacy, global telecommunications, the theory of evolution or the space program.] too.
Yes, I know. And the spread of education and information will continue to undo the church as is has since the days of Gutenberg.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#526509 Apr 27, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>They are still using blood now, although you would condone this, because it is approved by science .....
but instead of smearing it around the doors, they are injecting it into those who have been bitten to save their lives.
***Antivenom (or antivenin or antivenene) is a biological product used in the treatment of venomous bites or stings. Antivenom is created by milking venom from the desired snake, spider or insect. The venom is then diluted and injected into a horse, sheep or goat. The subject animal will undergo an immune response to the venom, producing antibodies against the venom's active molecule which can then be harvested from the animal's blood and used to treat envenomation. Internationally, antivenoms must conform to the standards of pharmacopoeia and the World Health Organization (WHO).[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivenom ***
That's right. Ever seen a tiger snake milked?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#526510 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you are exhorted to be meek. I don't have much interest in this kind of sophistry.
<quoted text>
I think that you have a defective understanding of the bible. I think that you have trouble reading a thought and holding it without it morphing.
<quoted text>
Yes, I do.
Apparently you've already read the post where I claimed that, but chose not to rebut it. Each reader is free to infer why. As for myself, I let no credible false claim about me go unrebutted.
Nice copy/paste nut job.....

Why did you remove the part where you libeled the other poster?

You know you did.

You accused me of having a flawed character them proceeded to show that same 'flaw' in your own post.

You deleted it. You know you did. You're being intellectually dishonest.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#526511 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

Really? Jesus said that we're 'expected' to be meek?
Derp, He said 'blessed are the meek'...
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Yes, you are exhorted to be meek. I don't have much interest in this kind of sophistry.
Oh gee, I find myself in a conundrum.

Do I believe the bible?
Do I believe IANS?

What to do, what to do........?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526512 Apr 27, 2013
hick-up wrote:
You're no different than any other hater. What fills the void isn't important as long as something exists for you to hate.
Spare me, Sigmund.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526514 Apr 27, 2013
Nick wrote:
With the understanding your presenting is that a human can work out God's mind, which you cant.
Is that what you think I believe? You must have me confused with somebody else. Perhaps I haven't expressed myself clearly enough to you yet: I am an atheist.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#526515 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oops, the freethinkers haven't yet taught you how to freethink exactly like they do. They freethink their way to say "no one can 'believe' in evolution"...
See, to be a true freethinker, you're required to freethink all the time. So long as your freethinking is the same as the other freethinker's freethoughts.
Those are Buck's words, not mine.

Did you see the link at the bottom of that post?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526516 Apr 27, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
Glad to read you are still learning Hebrew. Much more constructive than anything here. You are wise.
LOL.

Look at how much of your time and attention is consumed by your faith. Pascal's wager says that you have nothing to lose by being a believer even if there is no god named Jesus. The hell you don't.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#526517 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You
If you're not gonna quote me exactly, I'm not gonna bother with your post.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526518 Apr 27, 2013
Serah wrote:
Are we praying them here??
"Something calls to me.
The trees are drawing me near,
I've got to find out why.
Those gentle voices I hear
Explain it all with a sigh."

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#526519 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Don't worry about it. We've got it covered.
What?! You bitch and whine about some so-called harm caused by theists to atheists & gays and when a theist asks you what it is, you say don't worry about it?
I'm not aware of any issue there.
Convenient. It's one the oldest laboratories in the world and happens to be funded by the world's largest church and you find "no issue"?
Those will very likely both change.
Those will very likely not change.
Yes, I know. And the spread of education and information will continue to undo the church as is has since the days of Gutenberg.
Nope. The spread of information and education will only help Christianity rise faster, as it's doing now - rising faster than the world's population.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#526520 Apr 27, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are Buck's words, not mine.
Did you see the link at the bottom of that post?
No I didn't...

Should I put my foot in my own mouth or do you wanna use that fake leg?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#526521 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Look at how much of your time and attention is consumed by your faith.
HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!

Kettle, meet pot.

That's rich, coming from you, IANS.

You even resorted to leaving your home country becasue of your faith...

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#526522 Apr 27, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
You are lying again HL
You made posts about me questioning my sanity and mocking the time I was locked up and stated I must not have been rehabilitated. And that's just off the top of my head.
And I doubt you can even count the number of posts you have suggested people perform sexual acts during the course of an argument. Generally some vulgar account of what they can do to themselves or to you.
Why do you have such a hard time being honest?
Even your icon habits are indicative of how you operate. For pages there may be one round of icons per post except for yours, if someone disagrees with a post of yours or several people do, sure enough there will be four, five rounds of icons until you manipulate them in your favor. Not that I care about icons but it shows how obsessed you are with trying to maintain the illusion of how you are perceived.
You don't take the high road. You lie, you insult, and you engage in hypocrisy. You break your word, you can't admit when you are wrong, and you are passive-aggressive. Yet post after post is filled with your self-adulation and maintaining how you stay above the fray
Personally whoever chooses to mix it up makes no difference to me. But your complete inability to be honest about how you post is truly baffling.
.. your verbal assaults have nothing to do with me ..

.. do you want to upset me so I'll argue, defend myself or hurl insults back at you? It seems you're doing your very best to garner my attention through character assassination and outright lies ..

.. for some reason, you need to berate people to bring yourself to a higher level, to have power, value. You still don't know that you're powerless ..

.. your behavior towards me has become unacceptable. IAN will dish it back at you, I won't. It's time to change my direction, remove myself from the source, ignore your posts and not respond ..

"All cruelty springs from weakness." Lucius Annaeus

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526524 Apr 27, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
You said earlier that you are a 50 something white male(the white male part being superfluous to my questions).
Why did you quit your profession?
I ask because I'm thinking of joining that profession.
Did you quit because of the profession?
You also said I could ask you questions.
I think that I shared some things on this topic in a PM to you. I0mnot sure how relevant my complaints would be to you. Much of the problem was that the deal was changing. It wasn't the deal I had agreed to, which was that I would give everything I had to my work - 100 hour work weeks as an intern and resident, study continuously thereafter to keep current, be available by beeper or phone when I was out to dinner with my wife, and be ready to drive in to the ER from there if necessary, take telephone calls in my sleep, assume huge dent and liability.

In return, I expected autonomy, authority, respect, job satisfaction, and to be well paid. They eroded away at all of that, gave me a huge infusion of new bureaucracy and liability. They welched on the deal, and I decided that I didn't want to play any more. What else could I do except accept those terms or get out? I could afford to, so I moved on.

I don't know if any of that is relevant to you. You'll get the new deal, and maybe feel better about it than I did, the way somebody being hired for $60,000 out of college feels better about that job than somebody already in it that took a pay cut from $100,000.

And your personality is very different from mine. You are gentler, I think.

Anyway, if you're still interested, here is an opinion I shared with boooots regarding his young physician son
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

And here is a laundry list of the kind of problems I had been facing at the end :
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#526525 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Spare me, Sigmund.
Honesty with self takes balls you ain't got Lucy.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#526526 Apr 27, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
That can be a game too :)
This summer I've planned a hike to Amish country to preach the gospel of HL.
Wish me luck?
Hang onto your bonnet then, Alice.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526527 Apr 27, 2013
Serah wrote:
You're still calling him dunce? Don't you see that as insulting??
Yes, I do.

You must have tuned the whole affair out. I don't blame you. The purpose is to have the effect that such language has. I'm invoking an eye for an eye, which is not a valid moral precept when talking about eyes or lives, but is at lower stakes. For example, if I do something that costs you fifty bucks, I should pay you fifty bucks. At those stakes, tit for tat is just.

And this is low stakes: just words. But his words earned mine.

Nobody need lament this. It was a free will choice made by the Dunce with eyes wide open. He had just seen my experience with the Dimwit, who chose his pride over owning his debt to me - which was an expression of contrition. He chose to pay it in another way.

The Dunce saw all of this, and chose the same for himself. I doubt that he regrets it, so you don't need to either.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#526528 Apr 27, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody misconstrued it. He just lied about it.
I believe there exists a creating source of intelligence and purpose. I believe there is abundant evidence to support this conclusion - not direct evidence, but deductive. Some call this entity "God".
I do not believe the Bible was dictated by God. I believe Jesus of Nazareth was a man who existed, but he was not "god" in any peculiar way and did not even claim to be.
I believe the Abrahamic religions (judaism, christianity, islam) are false and inherently evil as a concept.
I believe Christianity was founded solely on the claimed out-of-body experience of Paul, a fake rabbi.
I believe the contemporary followers of Jesus did not believe he was God, or the Atonement for sin, and very nearly killed Paul for preaching that he was.
I believe all mankind are "sons of god", this being in the sense that we are "of the nature" of the creator. "Imago dei" (image of God) is one way of putting it. It means we were created in love with the inclination to, ourselves, create in love.
I believe any belief system that contains judgement, punishment, or insiders and outsiders has nothing whatsoever to do with God.
I believe in evolution, and that man evolved over time. I do not believe it is possible that the process is not designed.
I can't definitively prove any word of this, which is why I refer to it as "belief".
I believe our existence is a mystery, with a few hints along the way.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
You're not an atheist, that's the good. The bad, you're close to Salvation and Rigteous Justification, but yet so far away.

Do you believe Jesus Christ did the things said of him in the bible?

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