Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Ditat Deus”

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#526480 Apr 27, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:

I believe in evolution, and that man evolved over time. I do not believe it is possible that the process is not designed.
Oops, the freethinkers haven't yet taught you how to freethink exactly like they do. They freethink their way to say "no one can 'believe' in evolution"...

See, to be a true freethinker, you're required to freethink all the time. So long as your freethinking is the same as the other freethinker's freethoughts.

Tehee Candor

“A Time for laughter and ...”

Since: Apr 13

A Time to be candid.

#526481 Apr 27, 2013
Good Morning Neighbors

Hope you enjoy your Saturday or whatever day it may be in your neighborhoods.

Peace :)

“Ditat Deus”

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#526482 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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He didn't say that, did he?
He said that for him, reality and truth depend on evidence. And yes, there needs to be evidence of that love. But it would have already been given spontaneously a thousand times before.
More mangling.
So many of you seem to be unable to read something and repeat it without transforming it into something else. How can one possibly have confidence in the conclusions of somebody that does that so often? How could anything make sense to you if you process information like that?
Is that what it is?

So this "repeated evidence" that's been done thousands of times before is love?

There's no evidence for that, so I guess Lacez wouldn't accept it.

“Ditat Deus”

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#526483 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I think I do understand.
Show me where your bible defines anything unambiguously and without contradiction. Show me the part that backs any definitively pronouncement of what the cosmic vault and dome are. Or anything else in your bible.
The same bible is used to justify opposite opinions, such as on wealth or slavery. Or child rearing. Or the shape of the earth.
You're asking me to give you a four year bible study course on Topix?

Dude, you don't know the bible - other than the mere words of it.

You've yet to post anything of value or meaning that says you know what you're talking about, biblically.

IOW - There's a lack of evidence that you're schooled at all in the bible, so I assume that what you say is bullshit opinion.

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#526484 Apr 27, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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So? This forum is filled with Christ haters like and many others? Show me anywhere where two people agree on everything and it is a lie. Thank God He made us all different, it is the spice of life!
Chris, I don't think the forum is filled with Christ haters. We have people here who are believers across a wide spectrum of expressing their belief, and we also have people here who do not believe, so they have no reason to hate something they don't believe in. We have some here who pretend to be on one side or the other but are only here to be noticed and to disrupt what any serious people might want from this site.

If Christ/God exists and is what believers believe Him to be then he is immune to anything that anyone might say about Him anyway. So a person reacting to a comment that appears to be against Christ, IMO, is reacting to being personally diminished because someone else is questioning their belief (and sometimes even their intelligence and integrity).

We are all taking the posts of others too personally, even if the poster intends to be hurtful, because aside from things a person on the net might be able to do off the net to harm someone, what we say here are just words.

We need to try to separate the topic from the people who are discussing it. IMO.

If that makes no sense then it is my fault for not expressing well what I intend.

“Ditat Deus”

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#526485 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:

REASONS GIVEN ON TOPIX WHY SKEPTICS AREN'T QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE BIBLE
[1] I took the scripture out of context. It means something other than what it says (context and implied meaning never supplied).
[2] I don't understand literary criticism
[3] It's an allegory, not literal.
[4] It's literal, not an allegory.
[5] Scripture is only transparent to those with a child's perspective
[6] Scripture is only transparent to biblical scholars
[7] I am not filled with the Holy Spirit
[8] That's the mystery of it all. "God works in mysterious ways"
[9] Man's mind is too puny to grasp the immensity of God's truth and justice.
[10] You were obviously never a "true christian"
[11] You don't have enough faith. You have to believe to understand.
[12] You can’t criticize the bible because you don’t believe or understand it.
[13] Why do we think we can pretend to know God?
[14] Scripture always interprets scripture
[15] Ever heard of biblical hermeneutics?
[16] You are not TRULY with truth and sincerity seeking God.
[17] You have to know how to translate Hebrew and Greek
[18] You are using a completely unsupportable transliteration of Scripture
[19] You have clearly not studied the ancient peoples who wrote those things or you would not come up with the conclusions you have.
[20] It takes humility to understand the Bible
[21]“Stop scripture mining."
[22] You have to be familiar with the technical terminologies in the bible before you can comprehend it.
[23] Even Satan can quote scripture.
[24] In any other field, like medicine, engineering, technology, electronics, software, computer, unless you have qualifications and experience, you are not allowed to open you mouth.
[25] You have no reference in the knowledge of God to know our experience in Christ Jesus. The Word has to be embedded in one's heart, and that can come from God only.
"Reasons given on Topix"??

Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

'cuz #5, "Scripture is only transparent to those with a child's perspective" sounds like a tall tale.
Adam

Germany

#526486 Apr 27, 2013
@HL


This is how it's supposed to be.
Adam

Germany

#526488 Apr 27, 2013
@HL

Look through the eyes of your daughter.

Tehee Candor

“A Time for laughter and ...”

Since: Apr 13

A Time to be candid.

#526489 Apr 27, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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what to do have enjoyment of our life days and you asking stupid question?
are you able to change day miseries of those who all day and night post nonsense like sick lunatics???
Here's a question for you. Are you able to reword that so it makes any sense at all Dr Shrink?
Adam

Germany

#526490 Apr 27, 2013

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526491 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You are most definitely in error, the bible never says the earth is flat, unless you continue reading it and not learning it.
Are we going to quibble semantics here? No, the biblical earth is not perfectly flat. We can all see hills and valleys.

The earth of the bible was considered to be a roughly flat surface with edges - sometimes described as a circle, sometimes as having four corners - with local curvature. You can see it all from above, and it is fixed from below.

The concept of the earth might have included some cupping at the edges to hold the oceans in, making the surface somewhat concave. And this was covered by a dome.

What the earth was not was a sphere. And calling the biblical earth "flat" is not deceptive.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526493 Apr 27, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>It is our behavior ~ our intents, thoughts and actions that make up each of us..... the flesh is just the vessel; we don't even need it when we move on, but we do take that which is us.
You take that which is you? What part of you is you? How about if you get severe Alzheimer's disease before you die? Which version of "you" exits the body and goes to heaven - the old "mented" you, or the demented one present at death?

I'm sure that you'll have a pretty little story with no unambiguous biblical support.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#526494 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Your religion simply can't die fast enough.
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Religion is such a beautiful thing. How are you any better than those Iranis?
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Do you think that that is what it would take to make people stop speaking ill of you and your religion - terror?
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LOL. What are planning to do? Flog him over the Internet?
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Your religion has failed you.
I went to the trouble of responding to not only your responses to Andrew's post but also to his.

I got down to the end...was trying to summarize what I had said in to one or two sentences...thought the summary said it best...

Andrew is just full of sh*t...no need to say more.

Since: Mar 09

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#526495 Apr 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You forgot something. I promised that if you chose to ignore it, I would revisit it for you, so here it is, from http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR... :
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You have made my case about you. Your claims are as full of stool as you are, aren't they?
If you ignore this again, expect to see it again. I want to hear your answer for why you make such claims knowing full well that they are untrue. Have you no honor or integrity?
I am not going to continue to re-post your old posts because you are the only one too senile to remember what you write or because you choose to use that as a tactic. Your bigotry and lies have been exposed quite nicely.

But if you really want to talk about waiting on an answer, and it doesn't even require wasting hours to find back posts that everyone already knows took place.....

Why did you continue to stay in a church that you knew was stealing money and give them 10% of your income?

What proof do you have your priest was stealing?

Did you lie about this simply because you are a bigot who wanted to portray all churches as corrupt?

I have been reading some of the old posts. Its funny you think everyone but you seemingly is considered a fool. Other than a few sycophants all I see is people that see you as a pathetic old man desperate for the respect he thinks he got as a doctor who didn't care about his patients. In moments of frustration a guy that blurts out comments that would only apply if he was still practicing medicine today, which he isn't, and a guy so craving validation that he makes up his own social demographic and refers to himself as "we". A guy so insecure that when he makes a spelling error he responds with a thesaurus list of words starting with the same letter to make sure people know it was a mistake and not a reflection of his vocabulary.

In real life you don't have the courage or the support a guy like you would need to ever say anything to anyone. So you come to the internet and rant and rave and convince yourself that being in the bottom .05% of your group that makes up 5% of the population carries any weight with anyone. What a sad, delusional life you live

Did you miss me? You should. You grasp on reality seems to get proportionally tenuous the longer I am gone. If you didn't have a few people so desperate for a leader (the world is filled with followers) you would understand how the world actually views you. Try going to any thread on your own and see what I mean. You aren't smarter than anyone, you are dishonest and unethical, and you are a bigot. Exactly what is it an ex-doctor, that stated if his patients wanted someone to care about their total well being they should have gotten a social worker, have to contribute about humanism?

You started your profession by making an oath based on deities. You started your career as a liar and a fraud and have continued to be one

:)
Adam

Germany

#526496 Apr 27, 2013


God bless you through Ozzy

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#526497 Apr 27, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>oy!, yes we do see it differently.
Psychiatric drugs to me is in a different category all together.
God promised the believer a sound mind through the Spirit of YHWH God by Yeshua Jesus Christ.
Why would then the believer need to be on drugs to stay sane or have a sound mind? For the unbeliever sure. For the believer, nay.
Can the medication do something in mind of the believer, that the Spirit of YHWH can't?
Something is wrong there.
Do you believe anyone with a mental disorder is not a real believer?

Anywhere from schizophrenia to bi-polar to PTSD?

I personally believe the cause is physiological and or environmental. I don't see it as a reflection of someone's faith.

God keeps us healthy spiritually.

IMHO our physical or mental health is not guaranteed through faith

I believe someone can have a mental affliction and still be a believer and loved and saved through Jesus Christ

Therefore I don't see having or treating an ailment, be it physical or mental, as a anything against God. JMO

(T) Peace

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526498 Apr 27, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Since we have few strands of Neanderthal DNA (or any of the early hominids fo rtha tmatter), upon what do you base that ?
You can't determine that from mitochondrial DNA
Actually, we have the entire Neanderthaal genome, which is about the same size as the human genome - roughly 3.2 billion base pairs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_geno...

It can be inferred that the chromatin was organized into the same number of chromosomes by virtue of the fact that it is currently believed that Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon interbred, which would not possible if their chromosomes couldn't line up during metaphase.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#526499 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That isn't what the earth looks like according to the bible, that's what it looks like according to an ignorant atheist's interpretation of it.
That is based upon the descriptions in the bible. The flat Earth Society bases its claims of a flat earth upon biblical text and descriptions.

"The modern age of the Flat Earth Society dates back to the early 1800s, when it was founded by Samuel Birley Rowbotham, an English inventor. Samuel Rowbotham's Flat Earth views were based largely on literal interpretation of Bible passages."
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php...

"Flat Earth Sosciety, energetically managed by Mr Charles K. Johnson and his wife Marjory of Lancaster, California. It incorporates the remnants of other organizations, such as the Zetetics, the Shentons' group and the followers of Wilbur Glen Voliva of Zion, Illinois. That city was long the headquarters of American flat-earth loyalists, several thousands of them, who largely populated it. They were members of the Christian Apostolic Church, founded in 1895 by John Alexander Dowie, a Scotish prophet and faith-healer. His rejection of the spherical earth followed, as is usually the case, from his literalizing the Bible."
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php...

"John Hampden, a Christian polemicist, gained notoriety by engaging in raucous public debates with leading scientists of the day. A bet involving the prominent naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace in the famous Bedford Level experiment led to several lawsuits for libel and Hampden's imprisonment, as well as a count of fraud on Wallace's behalf, which only required him to return the money.
After Rowbotham's death, Lady Elizabeth Blount founded the Universal Zetetic Society which attracted thousands of followers, published a magazine entitled The Earth Not a Globe Review and remained active well into the early part of the 20th century. After World War I, the movement underwent a slow decline, but it was revived in 1956 as The Flat Earth Society."
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php...

"As a member of the fundamentalist Dutch Reformed Church, Kruger believed literally in the pillars and corners of the flat earth. He learnt from the captain that the ship was navigated on the basis of the earth being spherical, inspected the sextant and other instuments, and then went below for his Bible and threw it into the sea. If the earth was really a globe, he said, then the Book was untrue and of no further interest to him."
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php...

"December 1915: "I believe this Earth is a stationary plane; that it rests upon water; and that there is no such thing as the Earth moving, no such thing as the Earth's axis or the Earth's orbit. It is a lot of silly rot, born in the egotistical brains of infidels. Neither do I believe there is any such thing as the law of gravitation. I believe that is a lot of rot, too. There is no such thing! I get my astronomy from the Bible." - Wilbur Glen Voliva
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php...

It has nothing to do with being atheist.

It is what is stated in your bible. The book you say you believe in.
Science has forced adherents of the Abrahamic religions to drop or adjust what they believe.

It seems impossible to modern Christians, only because that belief has been altered for so long now.

If only you'd fully step into the 21st century.

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#526500 Apr 27, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. please find one post wherein I insult people on a personal level. You won't because you can't ..
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You are lying again HL

You made posts about me questioning my sanity and mocking the time I was locked up and stated I must not have been rehabilitated. And that's just off the top of my head.

And I doubt you can even count the number of posts you have suggested people perform sexual acts during the course of an argument. Generally some vulgar account of what they can do to themselves or to you.

Why do you have such a hard time being honest?

Even your icon habits are indicative of how you operate. For pages there may be one round of icons per post except for yours, if someone disagrees with a post of yours or several people do, sure enough there will be four, five rounds of icons until you manipulate them in your favor. Not that I care about icons but it shows how obsessed you are with trying to maintain the illusion of how you are perceived.

You don't take the high road. You lie, you insult, and you engage in hypocrisy. You break your word, you can't admit when you are wrong, and you are passive-aggressive. Yet post after post is filled with your self-adulation and maintaining how you stay above the fray

Personally whoever chooses to mix it up makes no difference to me. But your complete inability to be honest about how you post is truly baffling.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#526501 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Really? Jesus said that we're 'expected' to be meek?
Derp, He said 'blessed are the meek'...
Yes, you are exhorted to be meek. I don't have much interest in this kind of sophistry.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
you argue against the bible with an elementary understanding of it.
I think that you have a defective understanding of the bible. I think that you have trouble reading a thought and holding it without it morphing.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
And you have the nerve to tell me that you think I have a character flaw of insinuating the "least charitable and most derogatory" statement by accusing you of lying?
Yes, I do.

Apparently you've already read the post where I claimed that, but chose not to rebut it. Each reader is free to infer why. As for myself, I let no credible false claim about me go unrebutted.

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