“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#524563 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> As I've said before and as always........your argument and your "logic" fails, having to have proof of God's existence before you can believe and / or take his Word under consideration is NOT faith, and babberling it over and time again is not going to help you, and the only unknowns that exists where God is concerned is only in the minds of unbelievers like yourself and others.**PORTIONS SNIPPED**
.. if God 'touched' you, why is faith necessary ??..

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#524564 Apr 23, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Certainly I don't have to have proof of God to consider the words of the Bible, but I can't say truthfully that I believe the words of the Bible are the words of God, when I don't know truthfully that God exists. The simplest explanation without evidence, and one which makes the most sense in view of some of the horror in the Bible is that the words are simply words of men written at a time of 1800 to a few thousand years ago.
We know that man has had the ability to write in that time period; we do not know that a God exists.
I know that some very famous atheists have studied the Bible intensely (of course some because they were originally preachers or evangelists) and we know from a lot of sources that the Bible does not hold up as the Word of the God that Christians describe. That is not proof of no god, but is very damning evidence against the Bible being Divine writings or divinely inspired writings.
Lawest, it is not appropriate to use the word logic though when supporting the existence of God, because logic will not support the existence of God (even though Matt Slick has stated that logic existing proves God - but Matt Slick, in my opinion, is a very bombastic and opinionated person who is not particularly intelligent, because his arguments on logic are not correct according to the study of logic, which I did study in university).
Well I cannot say that I know what you are referring to when you say that the Bible has failed to "hold up" in some instances, but we have the witness through his spirit that it not only holds up but everything that it promises is terue, again as I've said to you so many times before, is that it takes FAITH, and that it will have to take a willing mind first and above all, and until you are willing to take that crucial first step, you will remain stagnate in the mire of unbelief that the adversary has you mired in.

Peace.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#524565 Apr 23, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree (((((LeLe)))))))) THOSE truly WITH God- do NOT do those things- many claiming to be speaking for and working for God- are NOT truly His helpers- they are flesh driven to be right,,.,,instead of heart driven to share Jesus. Hopefully- they take counsel from those who try and show them His way.**PORTIONS SNIPPED*
"You are either with us or you are against .." George Bush

.. choose one of two options, eliminate all others ..
Nick in Australia

Australia

#524566 Apr 23, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Certainly I don't have to have proof of God to consider the words of the Bible, but I can't say truthfully that I believe the words of the Bible are the words of God, when I don't know truthfully that God exists. The simplest explanation without evidence, and one which makes the most sense in view of some of the horror in the Bible is that the words are simply words of men written at a time of 1800 to a few thousand years ago.
We know that man has had the ability to write in that time period; we do not know that a God exists.
I know that some very famous atheists have studied the Bible intensely (of course some because they were originally preachers or evangelists) and we know from a lot of sources that the Bible does not hold up as the Word of the God that Christians describe. That is not proof of no god, but is very damning evidence against the Bible being Divine writings or divinely inspired writings.
Lawest, it is not appropriate to use the word logic though when supporting the existence of God, because logic will not support the existence of God (even though Matt Slick has stated that logic existing proves God - but Matt Slick, in my opinion, is a very bombastic and opinionated person who is not particularly intelligent, because his arguments on logic are not correct according to the study of logic, which I did study in university).
All you have to do is look at the universe to see God splender and power. God created it and put in place and is the source of energy holding it all together.
Or look at life on earth and all cteation unique for it own purpose.

Jesus did exist. The romans who arrested him ended up making him their God.

In court when there is 2 or more witnesses is evidence. Jesus had 4 accounts of his life and another 7 or so confirm his teachings.

The Jews did arrest Jesus and handed him to yhe Romans.

There where many witnesses of the miricales he performed. Hundreds witness the dead people he raised to life. Hundreds witness his resurrection.

It endless when you seek truth !

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524567 Apr 23, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello LAWEST100
A GOD is only real in the "Minds" of people.
Life is very difficult, therefore, a GOD was created.
Another baseless atheist claim.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#524568 Apr 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. if God 'touched' you, why is faith necessary ??..
Because the working of his power upon our lives come by FAITH, of which it is impossible to please him without, as the worldly saying goes.........try it, you might like it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524569 Apr 23, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
It's sad that those people are in power.
"those people"??

O_o

Is he gay? Maybe black?

You're a bigot.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524570 Apr 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
If any people are truly born gay, it's an incredibly small percentage of them. I mean like .001% of the 'gay' population.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. you're wrong ..
<quoted text>
.. you made the original claim ..
.. I said you're wrong ..
.. now it's up to you, not me, to prove the claim ..
Gay people don't have sex/relationships with both sexes. Bisexuals do.
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#524571 Apr 23, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
We all have to prayerfully ask God to help us to not give in to the flesh in how we post ~ and to NOT post if we are losing patience. Each of us steps into the goop and has cleaned our feet on the rugs of this thread. But His children strive to not let it happen as often in hopes of it not happening at all.
Prayers are of course useless! All religions you can forget!

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#524572 Apr 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay people don't have sex/relationships with both sexes. Bisexuals do.
.. you missed Alice's joke about the Scot, didn't you ??..
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#524573 Apr 23, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
???~~grinning~~~, that is quite amusing that you think because I say your decisions always comes back to you or to provide specifics I'm being defensive. That is not a defensive posture, it's simply a life application or basis for discussion. Some accounts in the bible such as places people and events can be historically verified. I asked you to be specific because there is a plausible explanation for every so called contradictions or errors you claim. If you can see hell, then why would you need faith. I find myself repeating this so many times on this billboard, so let me post the verses again...<quoted text>
Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who
earnestly seek him.
Mark 11:22
"Have faith in God," Jesus answered.
Mark 4:40
He said to his disciples, "Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?"
[[[
You keep asking for evidence of the Spiritual, But to God Faith in the spiritual is what is vital.
Your request, is in direct contradiction, to what YHWH God requires.
Hell is spiritual, it's not physical. Your soul is spiritual, and hell suffering is spiritual. And it's only evident after you die. But then it's too late.
So, you're in a rather unenviable position writer. Have no faith in the Spiritual because you can't see the evidence of it, and when you do have evidence of it, it's after your body dies and your soul rises in judgement to the Almighty for the rejection of Yeshua Jesus Christ. Then you will have the evidence of hell, but too late.
Or be at peace in this life, and in this body, and believe it's all myth. The question to you is, can you live your life, believing the judgement of hell for rejecting Jesus Christ, is a myth?
IMO, just based on your arguments on this billboard, you ain't doing a good job of that [so far].
There is not the faintest idea of a god ever been.
Nick in Australia

Australia

#524574 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Because the working of his power upon our lives come by FAITH, of which it is impossible to please him without, as the worldly saying goes.........try it, you might like it.
To add could I also say Faith is responding to something you hear and know is truth. To believe with your heart and mind. Faith is to trust in, with no doubting but seeking answers to grow.
Faith also comes from God.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#524575 Apr 23, 2013
And I said,Oh that I had wings like a dove for then would fly away and be at rest.

Lo then would I wander far off and remain in the wilderness.

I would hasten my escape from the windy storms and temptest.
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#524576 Apr 23, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
???~~grinning~~~, that is quite amusing that you think because I say your decisions always comes back to you or to provide specifics I'm being defensive. That is not a defensive posture, it's simply a life application or basis for discussion. Some accounts in the bible such as places people and events can be historically verified. I asked you to be specific because there is a plausible explanation for every so called contradictions or errors you claim. If you can see hell, then why would you need faith. I find myself repeating this so many times on this billboard, so let me post the verses again...<quoted text>
Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who
earnestly seek him.
Mark 11:22
"Have faith in God," Jesus answered.
Mark 4:40
He said to his disciples, "Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?"
[[[
You keep asking for evidence of the Spiritual, But to God Faith in the spiritual is what is vital.
Your request, is in direct contradiction, to what YHWH God requires.
Hell is spiritual, it's not physical. Your soul is spiritual, and hell suffering is spiritual. And it's only evident after you die. But then it's too late.
So, you're in a rather unenviable position writer. Have no faith in the Spiritual because you can't see the evidence of it, and when you do have evidence of it, it's after your body dies and your soul rises in judgement to the Almighty for the rejection of Yeshua Jesus Christ. Then you will have the evidence of hell, but too late.
Or be at peace in this life, and in this body, and believe it's all myth. The question to you is, can you live your life, believing the judgement of hell for rejecting Jesus Christ, is a myth?
IMO, just based on your arguments on this billboard, you ain't doing a good job of that [so far].
The more people get educated the less they are religious! Science is a eral motivation for mankind. Unfortunately capitalism in the nuclear age means the extermination of mankind. Communism was the last chance for the survival of our race. This chance is over now!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#524577 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> That's okay coming from you, I understand.
That would have to be the case since I don't believe in myths as reality. Thanks for your insight concerning this matter.
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#524578 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> That's okay coming from you, I understand.
Forget Jesus and any mythical gods. They just don`t exist at any time. Get science in your short life time!

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#524579 Apr 23, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
There is not the faintest idea of a god ever been.
you exist don't you?
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#524580 Apr 23, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
???~~grinning~~~, that is quite amusing that you think because I say your decisions always comes back to you or to provide specifics I'm being defensive. That is not a defensive posture, it's simply a life application or basis for discussion. Some accounts in the bible such as places people and events can be historically verified. I asked you to be specific because there is a plausible explanation for every so called contradictions or errors you claim. If you can see hell, then why would you need faith. I find myself repeating this so many times on this billboard, so let me post the verses again...<quoted text>
Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who
earnestly seek him.
Mark 11:22
"Have faith in God," Jesus answered.
Mark 4:40
He said to his disciples, "Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?"
[[[
You keep asking for evidence of the Spiritual, But to God Faith in the spiritual is what is vital.
Your request, is in direct contradiction, to what YHWH God requires.
Hell is spiritual, it's not physical. Your soul is spiritual, and hell suffering is spiritual. And it's only evident after you die. But then it's too late.
So, you're in a rather unenviable position writer. Have no faith in the Spiritual because you can't see the evidence of it, and when you do have evidence of it, it's after your body dies and your soul rises in judgement to the Almighty for the rejection of Yeshua Jesus Christ. Then you will have the evidence of hell, but too late.
Or be at peace in this life, and in this body, and believe it's all myth. The question to you is, can you live your life, believing the judgement of hell for rejecting Jesus Christ, is a myth?
IMO, just based on your arguments on this billboard, you ain't doing a good job of that [so far].
There is not the daintest idea of any religion is helping mankind at all!

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524581 Apr 23, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, Truths, that we should all act here in the same manner we would act if we were sitting in the same room at a serious discussion, or debate, in which we would not be permitted, by those in charge or by common courtesy, to act how some here act (including me at times). We are "flesh" however, and we are all 'of this world' regardless of what our out of this world beliefs might be, so we have no choice in that, except to how we present ourselves.
(c: Agreed

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#524582 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Excellent post SP, and you nailed it dead on the head when you point out that so many of these atheistic people cast themselves in that very role that the devil did when he tried to tempt Jesus in the desert after his 40 day 40 night fast.
Blessings.
Lawest, though I support and understand that you believe and your belief is genuine, it is not a logical statement to remind an atheist that they are in cahouts with the Devil, because an atheist does not have a belief in the devil.

At the same time, in response to the other person's support of you regarding someone stating that you appear to have knowledge greater than God, that is the case, not necessarily with you but with many on here who are believers, because they give us interpretations of what God does or why God does something, which does not come from any sources other than theirs or some other authors''rationalizations' of inconsistencies in the behavior of the God that believers believe in as shown by the Words.

When one, for example, says that God answers all prayers, but in a case where the prayer asked for did not come true, then God decided at that time that not fulfilling the prayer was the right solution. That could very well be the case, if God exists, but no human can make that interpretation in any given event, except if God has actually contacted that human and told him that is why a certain event occurred.

It is very common, in my experience, with other people, for people to "speak for God", and to speak about why God did such and such, when they could not have got that answer anywhere except in their own mind.

If someone comes to you and tells you of a time they prayed and nothing good happened, and you say that God decided at that time to not answer the prayer, that is your guess, because you were not even aware of the story until the person related it to you, and unless God at the moment of telling actually spoke to you giving you His rationalization, then you were just winging it as to why things happen that way.

None of that was intended to be disrespectful, but in my way, trying to explain about what I think of those kinds of "speaking for God" situations.

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