Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#524638 Apr 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I know where you're going with your flawed argument.
You're about to say that because one talks about the defining characteristics of people's sexuality, that person must be what they're arguing against.
That's pathetic. And it's been tried before.
I guess, with your version of logic, all these atheists arguing against Christianity are closet Christians....
O_o
Not at all.

Of all the "sins" in the Christian canon, you pick one type of "sin", one that is little mentioned actually -- and never expressly mention by Jesus.

You could focus on lying, stealing, murdering, blasphemy -- which seems to stand out as one of the worst "sins" discussed in the NT -- but you don't.

You focus on a particular form of sexual "sin".

Why is that?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#524639 Apr 23, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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LOL. Bulletin board comes from billboards?...
Bill, Bull, Bulletin, Bullet:

A posted notice or message.

Often posted on walls of buildings some towns put up walls (boards) specifically for their posting. These came to be know as Bill Boards or Bulletin Boards.

They have a several hundred year old history.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#524640 Apr 23, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I don't. You're right.
But I've watched you go from being somewhat reasonable to virtually frothing at the mouth while Ian's has maintained his usual artistry of words.
Very telling.
Adolf HItler could retain his composure while Patton constantly got in trouble for his big mouth.

Your Point ?

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#524642 Apr 23, 2013
Booosts Wrote

Lawest, though I support and understand that you believe and your belief is genuine, it is not a logical statement to remind an atheist that they are in cahouts with the Devil, because an atheist does not have a belief in the devil.

Lawest Wrote:

Booosts, who do you think is working behind a atheist unbelief, the devil is a spirit that works in opposition to God's will, his greatest weapon is that you do not believe in his existence because he has blinded the minds of those like yourself and others, and you can see his handiwork all about you in this world.

Since: Jul 10

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#524644 Apr 23, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
???~~grinning~~~, that is quite amusing that you think because I say your decisions always comes back to you or to provide specifics I'm being defensive. That is not a defensive posture, it's simply a life application or basis for discussion. Some accounts in the bible such as places people and events can be historically verified. I asked you to be specific because there is a plausible explanation for every so called contradictions or errors you claim. If you can see hell, then why would you need faith. I find myself repeating this so many times on this billboard, so let me post the verses again...<quoted text>
Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who
earnestly seek him.
Mark 11:22
"Have faith in God," Jesus answered.
Mark 4:40
He said to his disciples, "Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?"
[[[
You keep asking for evidence of the Spiritual, But to God Faith in the spiritual is what is vital.
Your request, is in direct contradiction, to what YHWH God requires.
Hell is spiritual, it's not physical. Your soul is spiritual, and hell suffering is spiritual. And it's only evident after you die. But then it's too late.
So, you're in a rather unenviable position writer. Have no faith in the Spiritual because you can't see the evidence of it, and when you do have evidence of it, it's after your body dies and your soul rises in judgement to the Almighty for the rejection of Yeshua Jesus Christ. Then you will have the evidence of hell, but too late.
Or be at peace in this life, and in this body, and believe it's all myth. The question to you is, can you live your life, believing the judgement of hell for rejecting Jesus Christ, is a myth?
IMO, just based on your arguments on this billboard, you ain't doing a good job of that [so far].
Briefly, because I seldom am brief, though my long-winded replies often are very boring, I do not believe in hell, so the thought of that has no impact on me, except currently to feel a bit of sympathy for people who seem bound to base their lives on a fear of hell.

I hope I did not give the impression that hell is something I consider a reality. If I speak of it, it is only in relation to commenting on other people talking about it. If I at all believed in hell and the condiitons for going there were as fundamentalists state, I would not be arguing against belief.

In fact when I catch myself I do not argue against belief, but try to argue only when I see a post where a person has made an obvious incorrect statement or have attacked another poster which contradicts their trying to convince us they are following the teachings of Christ.

My question regarding your being defensive, came from my perception that you seem to keep plugging away at convincing us of the same thing, almost as if you are trying to convince yourself (that is my perception, but not necessarily what you are doing).

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#524645 Apr 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Uh-huh...
Well if you wanna learn definitions, go to a dictionary - not a person.
Heterosexual - Sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex.
Homosexual - Sexually attracted to people of the same sex.
Bisexual - Sexually attracted to people of both sexes.
It's pretty clear cut.
For some reason, many "straights" or "gays" are afraid of being known for what they are, bi.
Have you ever had sex with someone that you weren't attracted to?

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

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#524646 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Again I appreciate what you saying, but the concern is still a little uncalled for, the Bible also says to pull down everything that is not like the Word of God, I am not a preacher nor do I put myself in said position, and again I understand your point of displaying civility where these unbelievers are concerned, but they are not going to always respond to this method in a positive manner, and as God often has to be sharp and firm with his children, sometimes it takes a firm and sharp manner in upholding his standards to those who would try to drag us down into the abyss of their swirling pool of unbelief, like you say........we must for others and self as well.
LOL

Since: Jul 10

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#524648 Apr 23, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Very easy, god does not exist at all. Never existed any gods at all!
I tend to agree with you on that Henry, though I have no proof, and proving that is impossible. The only thing we can do is prove the statements made by believers that are known to not be true, are in fact not true.

There has never been any evidence provided by man which has convinced the world of the existence of a god, whereas evidence of the earth not being flat has changed the whole world's perception of the shape of the earth, and no person with any knowledge at all could ever again argue for a flat earth again. Because belief in a god is so important to so many people, I am 100% sure that evidence of a god that was confirmed, would change all people to knowing that a god exists rather than some believing and 100% not knowing.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#524649 Apr 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Uh-huh...
Well if you wanna learn definitions, go to a dictionary - not a person.
Heterosexual - Sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex.
Homosexual - Sexually attracted to people of the same sex.
Bisexual - Sexually attracted to people of both sexes.
It's pretty clear cut.
For some reason, many "straights" or "gays" are afraid of being known for what they are, bi.
You miss the part in this, where people try to conform to the expectations of the people in their life. Not a small factor in my opinion.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#524651 Apr 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. ya, I do that regularly when I want to respond to only portions of a post ..
.. by chance, do you like scarves ??..
Well, you know I'm back!

And yes, I do.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#524652 Apr 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Have you ever had sex with someone that you weren't attracted to?
Not even when I was paid for it. LOL

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#524653 Apr 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I find it strange that a "straight" person knows more about how a "gay" person feels than they themselves do.
When I wanted to learn about the gay community I went straight to the source...the gay community. I asked questions...then I listened...thought about what they said...then asked more questions. When I wanted to learn about transgendered...I asked a transgendered person. I went to an asexual when I wanted to understand an asexual.
If I wanted to learn more about Christianity...I would ask a Christian not an atheist.
If I wanted to learn about Buddhism I would not go to a Christian to learn.
When I wanted to know how about the racism shown to a black person I did not go to a white person.
When I wanted to know the affects of 9/11 was felt by a middle easterner...I went to someone that was from Pakistan.
When I speak of any of the above...it is from what I learned from each of these people...
I could explain to you from what I have been told why someone that is gay might have sex with the opposite sex. I don't think however that it would really matter to you. You are more comfortable with what you have come up with on your own.
If
That’s because you care to truly understand imo….I am learning that is a quality many folks these days, just don‘t have. Very sad if you ask me.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#524654 Apr 23, 2013
Booosts Wrote:

At the same time, in response to the other person's support of you regarding someone stating that you appear to have knowledge greater than God, that is the case, not necessarily with you but with many on here who are believers, because they give us interpretations of what God does or why God does something, which does not come from any sources other than theirs or some other authors''rationalizations' of inconsistencies in the behavior of the God that believers believe in as shown by the Words.

When one, for example, says that God answers all prayers, but in a case where the prayer asked for did not come true, then God decided at that time that not fulfilling the prayer was the right solution. That could very well be the case, if God exists, but no human can make that interpretation in any given event, except if God has actually contacted that human and told him that is why a certain event occurred.

Lawest Wrote:

Booosts, unless God intervenes in your life at some point, we are never going to agree on these subjects, God communicates with his people through his spirit, and because you cannot understand how that works, you are just as guilty of being presumptious and a know-it-all as the believers that you accuse of being too high and mighty for knowing God's will, we know God's primary purpose and desire for mankind through his Word left on record by his Holy Apostles and Prophets, granted that some peoiple you have bread commentary or heard in person may not have known 100% what they are talking about, or some may not have truly had what they have professed to have and some may well have been true believers, but I can tell you as according to God's Word that prayer prevails much from the righteous man, and if we continue to do his will, we may ask anything of him IF it is in his will for us to have.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#524656 Apr 23, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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You are a moron.
Why do make stuff up instead of researching it ?
You don't even know what a billboard is besides your limmited understanding of the term.
Then again, you are supposed to be an MD and don't even know what a Candy Striper is.
Your fraud is well documented now.
I know you have heard of the Catcher white sheet.

It is being drawn on you at this moment.

Enjoy your disappearance.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#524657 Apr 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Have you ever had sex with someone that you weren't attracted to?
I have never gone to bed with an unattractive woman.

I have woken up with several, however.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#524658 Apr 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Thankls Deb, but I do have patience to post as I am posting, you may see it as being a little unchristian but we call it tough love.
But in the spirit of discussion, Lawest, which I understand the purpose of the site Topix, it makes more sense to get your point across to discuss what others have stated with rational logical replies, rather than applying 'tough love'. If tough love works for you in everyday dealings with people you see off line, then that is fine, but it tends to stall intelligent debate, when the person upon whom you are applying tough love gets defensive about your approach rather than about what you might have to contribute to the topic.

That is a characteristic that both sides of any discussion seem to fall into, attacking the poster rather than what they are saying.

I feel that some believers are so wound up in their own "walk with God" that they lose track of how they might not be presenting a very loving approach to others. I do the same, but I don't 'stand on God's truth', so can blame it entirely on my human condition. Those who claim to be working in the Spirit (or whatever words they use) do not have that luxury. I however do need to be polite too, because that is one of my strong value system points.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#524659 Apr 23, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Not at all.
Of all the "sins" in the Christian canon, you pick one type of "sin", one that is little mentioned actually -- and never expressly mention by Jesus.
You could focus on lying, stealing, murdering, blasphemy -- which seems to stand out as one of the worst "sins" discussed in the NT -- but you don't.
You focus on a particular form of sexual "sin".
Why is that?
It is strange isn't it?

They also seem to think that gay marriage will destroy their concept of marriage. Even more so than adultery...abuse...incest. I am sure that they don't like those things either but those things don't seem to light their fire as quickly as the "gay" issue does.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#524660 Apr 23, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Well Jesus (as a man!) is 2000 years dead and of course never was agod at all! In the history of mankind there was never any god! The origin of mankind comes from apes!
That is true based on man's current knowledge, however I suspect believers can still claim that God created the apes, so that they do not have to deny evolution, and I have known and seen many devout believers make that statement. I don't agree with them, but at least it let's them off the hook of having to contradict known facts.

One thing that has definitely been proved by man is that man did not one day just suddenly appear in the flesh as we are today in the Garden of Eden. Man's history is known back long before any man who would resemble Adam was ever on this earth.

Even disproving the Adam and Eve story, which most theologians accept does not disprove a God; it just means that some of the stories in the Bible were myths, not fact.

Since: Jul 10

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#524661 Apr 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If any people are truly born gay, it's an incredibly small percentage of them. I mean like .001% of the 'gay' population.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. you're wrong ..
<quoted text>
.. you made the original claim ..
.. I said you're wrong ..
.. now it's up to you, not me, to prove the claim ..
I had a bit of trouble when I read that post of RR because after he stated that figure, I think he subsequently contradicted himself. It could have been a typo, but it seemed to me he was expressing opinion for and against himself.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#524662 Apr 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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It is strange isn't it?
They also seem to think that gay marriage will destroy their concept of marriage. Even more so than adultery...abuse...incest. I am sure that they don't like those things either but those things don't seem to light their fire as quickly as the "gay" issue does.
Exactly.

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