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“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524224 Apr 22, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Would you be more comfortable with "gay is evil" being force fed?
PS- YOU know me better than that~ and - often times when I post here- your responses to me are like you are replying to SOMEONE else- I know that you may be just using my posts to make a point to others who show hate- but ....

<3 The highest wisdom is kindness.*Talmud

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524225 Apr 22, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I am reading backwards this morning...that way when all the "stuff" bores me I can quit and still feel as if I caught up.
hugs back atcha...
You know...Deb...despite our differences...I would still walk beside you...because differences do not define us. It is what we have in common that forms friendships.
We forget that sometimes...we let those differences overwhelm us...shape out words...forget that there are warm hearts and caring souls that lie beneath the exterior.
One person's belief should never override that of another. We should seek balance between the two...only through that balance will we find understanding...compassion...e mpathy for each other.
It is only then...at least IMO (I know...I know...not worth the paper that it is written on...at least to no one else)...
...that we can truly love our neighbor...
As you can "see"...I am having one of those "zen" moments! LOL
Okay...
:-)
LOL- I LOVE you (((((sister)))))))

Your post is a response to my last one- EVEN before I wrote it!!!!

XO

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524226 Apr 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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At what age did you choose to be heterosexual ?
I used to make other WRONG choices that were against the bible- I pretended to not think that it mattered. Even though I thought myself a Christian my whole life.

It wasn't until I REALLY became a Christian in heart soul and mind that I gave up things which I truly enjoyed- but that were NOT good for me.

(((((Duane)))))) Glad you are keeping the thread active for us (c:
Chess Jurist

Canton, OH

#524227 Apr 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You deal with it ~ there are many more posters that I find worth reading..... you may not have noticed it, but this is a very fast moving forum and I have no time to 'deal' with many.
I don't need to deal with it; I revel in those diverse voices.
Chess Jurist

Canton, OH

#524228 Apr 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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That sums up most of your posts.
G_O_D wrote:
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Seems you have always been so.
You're smarting, having been exposed for your ignorance and dishonesty.

I get it.
Chess Jurist

Canton, OH

#524229 Apr 22, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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EYE OPENING? I'll be the judge of that.
Nope.
LOL.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524230 Apr 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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Jack Daniels is an alcohol.
It's not a sex.
If you can't tell the difference between your drink and people, then you obviously aren't in any position to claim knowledge on anything regarding human sexuality.
The point being-

Some people claim alcoholics are BORN that way...guesss who says so? Yup- drunks .

Some people claim abusing children is in their genetics...and THEY can't help it... guess WHO says that?- YUP -child abusers.

Some people claim that DRUG abuse is genetic...GUESS who says that? YUP Drug abusers...

Some people claim that their dad beat THEIR mom- and that it is the only way THEY know how to treat a spouse...GUESS who says that? YUP- spouse abusers.

Animal abusers have anger issues due to what was done to them....

Murderers have every right to KILL someone who made them mad...or EMBARRASSED them like their DADS did....

AND there is "SCIENTIFIC PROOF" that ALL those things are true~

Persons in JAIL CLAIM that THEY got the way THEY are due to what the world DID to THEM...

ALL because liberals with NO conscience took away personal accountability in order to sell people ?cures?- whether it be Pharms or psychologists- or self help books- PEOPLE were taught that they were NOT responsible for their actions...they were BORN that way...or society MADE them do the wrong.

EVERY one of those people has a choice-

Remember - for every crime commited-persons in JAIL CLAIM that THEY got the way THEY are due to what the world DID to THEM...

Sorry - but personal desires to give into ANY situation is STILL CHOICE.
Maybe people do not all have the enviornment to make better choices when they are young - so they grab onto sexual pleasure with self and whom ever in order to feel 'better'- That is unhealthy whether gay or straight- It is turning to a possible destructive habit instead of learning coping skills and maturing.Therefore setting themselves and their loved one up for a life time of trauma and drama over the small things. Because they never learned to KNOW that OTHERS are more important than self. Learning to SEE and to help others IS KEY to healing everything done TO us.

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#524231 Apr 22, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong.
Because you say so?

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#524232 Apr 22, 2013
Truths wrote:
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The point being-
Some people claim alcoholics are BORN that way...guesss who says so? Yup- drunks .
Some people claim abusing children is in their genetics...and THEY can't help it... guess WHO says that?- YUP -child abusers.
Some people claim that DRUG abuse is genetic...GUESS who says that? YUP Drug abusers...
Some people claim that their dad beat THEIR mom- and that it is the only way THEY know how to treat a spouse...GUESS who says that? YUP- spouse abusers.
Animal abusers have anger issues due to what was done to them....
Murderers have every right to KILL someone who made them mad...or EMBARRASSED them like their DADS did....
AND there is "SCIENTIFIC PROOF" that ALL those things are true~
Persons in JAIL CLAIM that THEY got the way THEY are due to what the world DID to THEM...
ALL because liberals with NO conscience took away personal accountability in order to sell people ?cures?- whether it be Pharms or psychologists- or self help books- PEOPLE were taught that they were NOT responsible for their actions...they were BORN that way...or society MADE them do the wrong.
EVERY one of those people has a choice-
Remember - for every crime commited-persons in JAIL CLAIM that THEY got the way THEY are due to what the world DID to THEM...
Sorry - but personal desires to give into ANY situation is STILL CHOICE.
Maybe people do not all have the enviornment to make better choices when they are young - so they grab onto sexual pleasure with self and whom ever in order to feel 'better'- That is unhealthy whether gay or straight- It is turning to a possible destructive habit instead of learning coping skills and maturing.Therefore setting themselves and their loved one up for a life time of trauma and drama over the small things. Because they never learned to KNOW that OTHERS are more important than self. Learning to SEE and to help others IS KEY to healing everything done TO us.
True thing writer!!
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#524233 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"Without worms you would have no soil"
O_o
???
That begs the question, which came first - the worm or the soil.....?
This reminds me of a 'joke'

A pastor told his congregation
I am going to put 3 cans of soil with worms in it

in the 1st can I am going to put alcolhol, like jack daniels, bourbon etc in the soil with the worms.

In the 2nd can , I am going to put cigarrets, ashes and all kinds of tobacco in it , with the worms

In the 3rd can , nothing but 'clean soil with the worms in it.

Next week we will open up the cans.

Next week came, and the pastor opened the can with alcolhol in it and the worms were DEAD.

He opened the can with cigarret ashes and tobacco in it and the worms were DEAD.

He opened up the can with the 'clean soil in it and the worms were ALIVE and thriving!

Now congregation, what does this PROVE???

No one said anything.

Finally a little ole lady stood up and said 'It proves that if you Smoke and Drink, you won't have WORMS!!

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524234 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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don't get me wrong as i agree with you more so than i do some other 'christian' posers here, BUT can a person be born addicted to....say crack if their mother was using during pregnancy?
similarly, can a person possibly be 'born gay'/with a disposition towards uncleaness/homosexuality since sin is hereditary?:)
If any people are truly born gay, it's an incredibly small percentage of them. I mean like .001% of the 'gay' population.

I don't consider a person that has sex, or has had sex, with both sexes. Those people aren't gay, they're bi. A true gay person will have never had or want sex with the opposite sex, only the same - just like most people that call themselves straight.

I don't consider a woman that has had plenty of sex with men, got married, had kids, etc. as a lesbian. No way, no how. She's bi.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524235 Apr 22, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Yes...DoC has passed. Never really thought about looking in either direction...or any direction as far as that goes River.
I thought that you were above this...determining someone else's fate.
Now...since you opened the door...
These people too thought they would be looking down upon others...
They all thought that they would get in...go figure...many won't. They should have worried a little more about themselves instead of taking odds on others.
The Narrow Door
22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him,“Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?”
He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading,‘Sir, open the door for us.’
“But he will answer,‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’
26 “Then you will say,‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’
27 “But he will reply,‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’
28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.”
A person that rejects Jesus will not enter Heaven.

Period.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524236 Apr 22, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Yes...DoC has passed. Never really thought about looking in either direction...or any direction as far as that goes River.
I thought that you were above this...determining someone else's fate.
Now...since you opened the door...
These people too thought they would be looking down upon others...
They all thought that they would get in...go figure...many won't. They should have worried a little more about themselves instead of taking odds on others.
The Narrow Door
22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him,“Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?”
He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading,‘Sir, open the door for us.’
“But he will answer,‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’
26 “Then you will say,‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’
27 “But he will reply,‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’
28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.”
Oh, and I did not determine his fate. He did that all his own.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#524237 Apr 22, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
This reminds me of a 'joke'
A pastor told his congregation
I am going to put 3 cans of soil with worms in it
in the 1st can I am going to put alcolhol, like jack daniels, bourbon etc in the soil with the worms.
In the 2nd can , I am going to put cigarrets, ashes and all kinds of tobacco in it , with the worms
In the 3rd can , nothing but 'clean soil with the worms in it.
Next week we will open up the cans.
Next week came, and the pastor opened the can with alcolhol in it and the worms were DEAD.
He opened the can with cigarret ashes and tobacco in it and the worms were DEAD.
He opened up the can with the 'clean soil in it and the worms were ALIVE and thriving!
Now congregation, what does this PROVE???
No one said anything.
Finally a little ole lady stood up and said 'It proves that if you Smoke and Drink, you won't have WORMS!!
Ahahaha!!

*whew!*

At least I won't have worms!

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524239 Apr 22, 2013
MapDark wrote:
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And what about the phone calls that never come when you need one .
As for the other two "examples" I really don't see how they're proof of the existence of God.
See if I take a different road from normally it's because I'm bored of having a routine.
As for songs reminding me of peace , it's somewhat a pavlov effect. You heard that song play once during a peaceful time of your life and repeated playing it to make yourself feel good . it's normal that hearing this song afterwards will bring up peaceful feelings. It's pretty similar to the researches that showed that FORCING YOURSELF to smile actually makes you feel happier.
Someone is looking out for you - while you are delaying a
"welcome back".
Long version: One of the newest things I have learned (those ah HA moments) is that when God tells us to think on good things- it is because He knows our body chemistry- He knows that if we are thinking on good things and praising all that He has provided in our lives.... that our body chemistry blends more of the positive chemicals~ Which means we are producing less cortisol... so that when small and larger traumas enter our lives- we can have better coping skills and sound bodies and minds in order to make it through intact.

Short version:
YES- smiling DOES indeed make us feel better (c:

~*~

Was thinking after I left my key board earlier~

Many people (me included for awhile) try and blame God for the bad choices of what people have done. If we blame God then we are letting mankind off the hook- and we think ourselves are off the hook too....from having to hear from God.
God IS still God no matter what we think we know....
A sin against Him is still a sin -even when we wont hear it or believe He is there.

You probably don't know me or my history here at topix- but I tend to 'preach ' to Christians and non Christians alike- about personal accountability. I am writing to you because I feel it on my heart that YOU have some very personal things which have affected your belief.-My faith makes me advance in this conversation.- I do not ask you to share them here- but I am compelled to ask you to reflect on those things~ relfect on what you USED to think was His truths- before you stopped the progression into real faith. What was done to you and what choices did you make in order to feel like you escaped the 'god' thing?

Think on what has transpired in your life since then.

Have you healed from the offenses or do they gnaw at you- so that you feel like you have to defend your position here?

~*~
God not only DOES heal the wounded which have been victims of people wrong choices. HE is willing to HEAL the offender !

That dear one is proof that GOD is~
A MAN made god would offer NO hope to the offenders. "god's " from other religions are NOT like this.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524240 Apr 22, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I wish that I could say that the things in your post are not true. While it has improved all of those things still exist.
On this thread even there are some...that if I were gay...I would not want to encounter in a dark alley. While that number is low there are also some that I feel that would walk on by and ignore what was happening.
I do believe that there are others that would stop to help...even if they thought that it was your fault...simply because you are gay.
I am sorry...no one deserves that...for any reason...whether that be for the color of their skin...their beliefs...their nationality...or their sexual orientation.
I AGREE~

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#524241 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If any people are truly born gay, it's an incredibly small percentage of them. I mean like .001% of the 'gay' population.
.. you're wrong ..

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524242 Apr 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
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My thinking on the "gay movement" is that, like all persecuted people, they try to emphasize their plight, by sometimes doing things to get the attention of others - riots, strikes, demonstrations, peace rallies, whatever - people go a little beyond everyday life to get their message across.
Gays should never have been demonized in the first place, but man seems to have a tendency to want to have somebody who they can "feel" better than, in order to feel any worth themselves.
It should not be necessary to feed 'gay is good' into the curriculum because people should not have thought of gay as being anything other than one of the orientations of humans, and just accepted all human beings as having equal rights. That should be especially in a school whose purpose is to teach people about the things they need to know when they grow up, and not a place to teach people that they should pick certain other people as being different and treat them badly because they are different.
I agree.

What many haters forget is this :

God Himself mandates FREE WILL~ Each person is free to choose what they will do.

By Christians attacking GAYS- Gays will dig in their heals AGAINST Christians- AND against the message God might have laid on their hearts -IF people had NOT pushed them away from God.

Christians do NOT want to be told that we can't attend churches or have messages of faith in public buildings- yet we expect to have the 'right' to mandate OTHERS personal choices.
God will look at each Christians behavior and judge us according to how we represented Him. Did we behave as Christ? Or offer slurs and hate ?
Did we offer counsel with LOVE for the other person and their eternity----or out of personal things like because we were offended by a behavior.

Christians ARE held responsible and are will be charged with our offenses- many will stand at the gate and hear "DEPART from me" .

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#524243 Apr 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I have had some of those happen, and I suspect all do. I think I wrote a post about that a day or two ago. In all of the millions of things that happen over the course of your life, there will be some strange coincidences.
The fact that you had the ones you mentioned though, doesn't tell you that God was the acting force in you having those experiences, or does it? What if there is some telepathic skills that we have not yet discovered where humans can think of someone and the other person thinks of them at the same time, because some message has been passed unnoticed between them, that they were not even aware of.
I don't endorse that idea, but it is certainly one that some people talk about, and does not necessitate the existence of a god, or more specifically the God of the Bible.
It most certainly could not be shown as verified proof that God exists.
I think I will repost to you what I posted to MapDark (c:

I don't know who the message is for- them or you- or a lurker -But I am sure I should repost. My mind formed this after our talk.

"Was thinking after I left my key board earlier~ Many people (me included for awhile) try and blame God for the bad choices of what people have done. If we blame God then we are letting mankind off the hook- and we think ourselves are off the hook too....from having to hear from God. God IS still God no matter what we think we know.... A sin against Him is still a sin -even when we wont hear it or believe He is there.
You probably don't know me or my history here at topix- but I tend to 'preach ' to Christians and non Christians alike- about personal accountability. I am writing to you because I feel it on my heart that YOU have some very personal things which have affected your belief.-My faith makes me advance in this conversation.- I do not ask you to share them here- but I am compelled to ask you to reflect on those things~ relfect on what you USED to think was His truths- before you stopped the progression into real faith. What was done to you and what choices did you make in order to feel like you escaped the 'god' thing? Think on what has transpired in your life since then. Have you healed from the offenses or do they gnaw at you- so that you feel like you have to defend your position here?~*~ God not only DOES heal the wounded which have been victims of people wrong choices. HE is willing to HEAL the offender ! That dear one is proof that GOD is~ A MAN made god would offer NO hope to the offenders."
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#524244 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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Honestly , to the people who say that being gay is not a choice; Why would someone , in this day and age CHOOSE to be a glutton, an adulterer/fornicator, greedy, a drug/alcohol addict, mean-spirited, ungrateful...etc?!
So...y do u choose to be an adulterer/fornicator?

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