“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#522536 Apr 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
... I am considering volunteering to do well woman exams...
If you are going to pretend to be a doctor, might as well play gynecologist.

Probably the only way you will ever get close to a conscious woman's privates.

Since: Jul 10

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#522537 Apr 19, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Because your lifestyle is evil, and when you willfully engage yourself in it.........then that makes YOU evil.
Lawest100, have you considered the possibility that a different approach might be more effective? I have found that when one describes a fellow poster on Topix by negative words, that it doesn't lead to any productive.

Personally, I doubt very much that the person you were posting to is an evil person. Evil is a very strong word. We all do things which could be considered not the very best things to do, but to be classified as being evil pretty well means the person is of no worth at all.

I have done the same thing myself, on Topix, and one particular person, who many of us have dealt with on Topix, some for over 4 years, I have called evil. That was pretty harsh, when the true fact of the matter is that this person is mentally ill. I have been mentally ill and am still treated for that, but I would never accept being called 'evil' because I just am not evil.

Just a thought, as we all have our ways of how we relate to others on Topix, but I find that negativity or negative descriptions of someone that I am posting too, seldom does anything positive for anyone.

So many of these Topix threads have stagnated, because we seem to all just keep the same things day after day, and getting the same adversarial responses. Kike when two sides in a war or a battle declare a truce, and a few keep shooting, it makes it very difficult to get together to discuss a peace agreement.

Regardless of our opinions on any particular subject, none of us are going to change another person's opinion by attacking that person as a human being.

My suggestion, as I posted a few days ago, is for all of us to try treating others as fellow humans on this big ball (different words this time) who are each trying in our own ways to get through each day.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#522538 Apr 19, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Because your lifestyle is evil, and when you willfully engage yourself in it.........then that makes YOU evil.
How does that fit in with "loving your neighbor as yourself"? Do you consider yourself evil when you willfully sin? What about the cliche..."love the sinner hate the sin"?

Your posts...as I read them...are troubling. You have gone beyond judging the sin and now seem to be judging the person. You have judged people to be worthless...at least that is how your posts read.

You call Alice evil and told HL that she disrespects people because of who she is. In both cases being lesbian is only a small part of who either one of them is...yet you judge them based on that small part.

I know...you call it love.

Since: Oct 12

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#522539 Apr 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I despise your religion, but not you, Whispers.
<quoted text>
I am defending my values just as earnestly as any of you. I reject your implication that when you say that Jesus loves you and I say that he doesn't exist, that you are OK and I am a hater. I reject your implication that when you say that your bible scriptures are wisdom and I say that they are foolishness, that you are OK and I am a hater. More and more of us are rejecting that double standard, and the judgments that go with it like yours above.
Satan indeed. It's time to put such childishness to bed.
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And you are wrong about opinions not being changed. Perhaps the faithful never evolve, but there has been tremendous growth among the unbelievers over the years. We are becoming more self-assured and more assertive. The debates had a different character five years ago when I started doing this. There was the idea that you had to give deference to a persons religious convictions in conversation. I don't see that very much any more.
"I must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."- H. L. Mencken
That was then. Today, I wouldn't agree with the opening clause. Here's a better opinion:
"I don't respect your beliefs and I don't care if you're offended." Ė Pat Condell
Sorry, but your religion gives no respect, and it deserves none. I can respect you, but not when you are promoting or defending it. I think that you have seen that. The times that you and I bump heads is over religion. Whenever we discuss other matters, we do fine. I am actually fond of you. We could be friends if we were not on opposite sides of this ugly matter.
Do you really believe that comments like this one repeated a few thousand times a day in countless conversations don't affect opinions? Unbelievers read these words and consider their own positions. Which aren't emboldened to be at least a little less solicitous to Christians because of it?
Sure, many might feel that I go too far, or that firebrand atheism doesn't suit their personalities, but I doubt that many think that I'm going in the wrong direction, or that they don't move at least a little more in that direction themselves over time.
Your first paragraph is simply a Excuse.
Secondly you put in five years to don't respect your beliefs or care if I offend you.
So you plant yourself among believers for self gradificalations only.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#522540 Apr 19, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Your first paragraph is simply a Excuse.
Secondly you put in five years to don't respect your beliefs or care if I offend you.
So you plant yourself among believers for self gradificalations only.
Don't worry LW, It's not you. IANS doesn't respect anyone.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#522541 Apr 19, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Evening SP, they generally claim not to be homosexuals themselves, but yet they try to defend the evil with a real passion as if you were speaking of them, one of things that make you go hmmmmm.........
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a homosexual.
SP said that y'all don't hate homosexuals but then you say I'm evil.
It's somewhat confusing.
.. come, lay next to me and I'll explain it all to you, my young spry nymph ..

<< Alice cuddles up against HL >>

HL: You see Alice, Christians don't hate homosexuals, they're just following a guidebook that encourages discrimination.

Alice: I always thought they were closet cases.

<< HL plants a peck on Alice's palm >>

HL: Yes, some are. Others just want to fit in with the crowd so they try to make homosexuals feel like crap.

Alice: Yes, at times I've felt that way.

<< HL gently strokes Alice's silky hair >>

HL: You see, the bible promotes the idea that some people are better than others. If you don't fit a certain arbitrary criteria like a belief in Christ or being 'saved,' you don't fit the mold. Gays and lesbians are automatically disqualified from membership.

<< Alice smiles, touches HL's shoulders >>

Alice: OH !! I get it! They want everyone to be just like them?

HL: Exactly. They don't hate you Alice, it only sounds like hate because they must follow the bible. People like us have hardly been in a position to disagree, have we? For decades, they've disposed of our kind without the slightest tinge of remorse. We've been cowed into submissiveness, transformed into non-people.

Christians don't hate us, they just want to feel better about themselves and need someone to walk on so their feet don't touch the ground.

<< HL massages the back of Alice's leg then wraps it around her waist >>

.. to be continued ..

Since: Oct 12

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#522542 Apr 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry LW, It's not you. IANS doesn't respect anyone.
No he is entitled to his opinions,beliefs,views,values.
He has stated his postion and it is understood on my part.

Since: Dec 12

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#522543 Apr 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't think you would.
But your boyfriend* had another reaction.
Tiny Duncer wrote: "Do you always beat up the innocent girlfriends of men that make you look stupid."
He's a loose cannon, Juice. He can't think straight when it's about you. That may flatter you, but it hurts him. Help him if you care.
* Now he's calling you his girlfriend. Is that good for you? Does he have your permission to do that? I assumed so, which is why I referred to him as your boyfriend.
Yes, I'm his girlfriend and I'm just fine with it. Did you actually not know this before G referred to me as his girlfriend? Wow.

Thank you kindly for your concern Teddy, I really appreciate it.

Since: Dec 12

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#522544 Apr 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry about that. Doctors are fleeing the profession, and I got a head start.
But as a way to give something back in my retirement, I am considering volunteering to do well woman exams. It's good for the community, and allows me to keep a hand in.
What do you think, Juice?
Ew
Bartholomew Oglethorpe

United States

#522545 Apr 19, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> I notice that they bring up some of the most obsolete subjects and try to hang on to them with such a death like grip, really pathetic.
Haha. That's rich coming from someone who considers the Bible the word of a deity. Do you proofread your posts?
Bartholomew Oglethorpe

United States

#522546 Apr 19, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> You really go off hard on these useless tandrums, don't you?.........you focus too long and too hard on by gone subjects instead of that which is truly important.
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
By-gone subjects? Wow. Just wow. You are finding less gaps to stuff your immoral, malevolent deity into and you resort to presentism. Wow.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#522547 Apr 19, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Lawest100, have you considered the possibility that a different approach might be more effective? I have found that when one describes a fellow poster on Topix by negative words, that it doesn't lead to any productive.
Personally, I doubt very much that the person you were posting to is an evil person. Evil is a very strong word. We all do things which could be considered not the very best things to do, but to be classified as being evil pretty well means the person is of no worth at all.
I have done the same thing myself, on Topix, and one particular person, who many of us have dealt with on Topix, some for over 4 years, I have called evil. That was pretty harsh, when the true fact of the matter is that this person is mentally ill. I have been mentally ill and am still treated for that, but I would never accept being called 'evil' because I just am not evil.
Just a thought, as we all have our ways of how we relate to others on Topix, but I find that negativity or negative descriptions of someone that I am posting too, seldom does anything positive for anyone.
So many of these Topix threads have stagnated, because we seem to all just keep the same things day after day, and getting the same adversarial responses. Kike when two sides in a war or a battle declare a truce, and a few keep shooting, it makes it very difficult to get together to discuss a peace agreement.
Regardless of our opinions on any particular subject, none of us are going to change another person's opinion by attacking that person as a human being.
My suggestion, as I posted a few days ago, is for all of us to try treating others as fellow humans on this big ball (different words this time) who are each trying in our own ways to get through each day.
I understand what you are saying Booosts and I appreciate the civility of your post, but one thing that you must understand is that there is a vast difference between Mental Illness and homosexuality, the first thing that we were taught in training when I joined to work at the SCDMH in 1980 as a Mental Health Specialist ( fancy name for nursing assistants ) that there was a difference between mental retardation ( with NOW the more politically correct word being AUTISM ) and mental illness, A person acquires Autism at birth while mental illness can develop at anytime of a person's life, many say that homosexuality is also something that people are born with, but that is not really true, homosexuality is a sin, and one that the individual can free him / herself from if truly desired to do so.

And just as their fight for "equal rights" should not be compared to black people and the civil rights movement, it should not also be equated to mental health issues which is essentially a disease, one is biological, the other is a sin.

Peace.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#522548 Apr 19, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
How does that fit in with "loving your neighbor as yourself"? Do you consider yourself evil when you willfully sin? What about the cliche..."love the sinner hate the sin"?
Your posts...as I read them...are troubling. You have gone beyond judging the sin and now seem to be judging the person. You have judged people to be worthless...at least that is how your posts read.
You call Alice evil and told HL that she disrespects people because of who she is. In both cases being lesbian is only a small part of who either one of them is...yet you judge them based on that small part.
I know...you call it love.
Read my post above to Boosts please, whenever you willfully engage in ANY sinful act that is evil, and you do so without caring, then that does MAKE you an evil person, even the saved sins here and there on either a minor level or ignorantly so, and we still have to repent from those as well if we want to draw nigher unto God and to be the best person that we can be in Jesus Christ, we are convicted and want to repent from such, and that is yet another purpose for God's Word to reprove us and clean us up by our submission to the Word.

Anyone who wants to continue on that sin knowingly without any conviction of the wrong that they are doing is very wicked, and I hold to what I have said previously.

Have a good day.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#522549 Apr 19, 2013
Bartholomew Oglethorpe wrote:
<quoted text>By-gone subjects? Wow. Just wow. You are finding less gaps to stuff your immoral, malevolent deity into and you resort to presentism. Wow.
Although I will respond to this one commentary, your posts are not really worth reply, so why don't you stop making a fool out of yourself?!

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#522550 Apr 19, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
@NoStress...if you are reading along...
We have discussed this before...name-calling justified biblically. The "Jesus did it so I can too" excuse that so often is used by many has always seemed "not right" to me. In my search for answers to this I ran across an article that might be of interest to you. The guy the article is written about is not important but there were a few statements that were made that follows my line of thinking.
Here is an excerpt...
http://www.ruckmanism.org/ruckmans-attempt-to...
"Ruckmanís attempt to vindicate his name-calling with Scripture

On numerous occasions Ruckman appeals to Scripture in an attempt to justify his outrageous name-calling. It cannot be denied that on a few occasions our Lord used some tough language when dealing with certain people, most notably the Pharisees. However, our Lord is sovereign, and was consistently capable of expressing anger without ever committing a sin and could see the heart of the person he was judging. This cannot be said of Dr. Ruckman or anyone else. Also, Christ in his omniscience knew whether or not a strong denunciation in a given situation would be counter-productive or not in the long run. There were a significant number of occasions when Christ turned away from a confrontation.
Ruckman also compares himself with such Bible characters as Jeremiah, Elijah, John the Baptist, and Paul in an attempt to justify his behavior. Ruckman seems to believe that the occasional tough language of Bible characters vindicate him, but it should be considered that we do not know the tone of voice used or to what extent the vocabulary used in a different language and culture thousands of years ago was as offensive or rude as it may sound to us in another language and culture."
*****
Each time that I hear "Jesus did it so I can too" I wonder...
Are they raising themselves up to the level of Jesus or pulling Jesus down to their level.
LOL - Did you sense a butterfly on the wall my friend ;O) Thank you for the link, I will read it here in a few. I hope you are having a wonderful day today, and will get back to you soon.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#522551 Apr 19, 2013
Topix is 'Freedom of Speech'--

Just because we are CHRISTIANS, we still have that RIGHT. The right to have our opinions and the right to WRITE them on our post.

'Love thy neighbor' also means --Telling them the TRUTH' and the TRUTH does not sound good to the SINNER.

Since: Dec 12

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#522552 Apr 19, 2013
simplyput wrote:
Topix is 'Freedom of Speech'--
Just because we are CHRISTIANS, we still have that RIGHT. The right to have our opinions and the right to WRITE them on our post.
'Love thy neighbor' also means --Telling them the TRUTH' and the TRUTH does not sound good to the SINNER.
AMEN Brother, Sister, whichever!!!

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#522553 Apr 19, 2013
simplyput wrote:
Topix is 'Freedom of Speech'--
Just because we are CHRISTIANS, we still have that RIGHT. The right to have our opinions and the right to WRITE them on our post.
'Love thy neighbor' also means --Telling them the TRUTH' and the TRUTH does not sound good to the SINNER.
Thank you for pointing that out SP, that is something that seems to go right over their heads.

Since: Jul 11

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#522554 Apr 19, 2013
God loves you this much: www.scribd.com/doc/106586592 ...

Since: Jul 10

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#522556 Apr 19, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> I understand what you are saying Booosts and I appreciate the civility of your post, but one thing that you must understand is that there is a vast difference between Mental Illness and homosexuality, the first thing that we were taught in training when I joined to work at the SCDMH in 1980 as a Mental Health Specialist ( fancy name for nursing assistants ) that there was a difference between mental retardation ( with NOW the more politically correct word being AUTISM ) and mental illness, A person acquires Autism at birth while mental illness can develop at anytime of a person's life, many say that homosexuality is also something that people are born with, but that is not really true, homosexuality is a sin, and one that the individual can free him / herself from if truly desired to do so.
And just as their fight for "equal rights" should not be compared to black people and the civil rights movement, it should not also be equated to mental health issues which is essentially a disease, one is biological, the other is a sin.
Peace.
The bottom line, though, Lawest, is that whatever various people classify homosexuality as, gays are first and foremost human beings, and I think on average, at least the gays that are well known by the world have exceeded many others in their chosen professions.

Some of the greatest people in the arts, music, and that we likely have all learned about from the past, were gay, though likely due to gays having mainly always been demonized they were not being as public about that as some do nowadays, because now they are protected by the law.

I will have to reject your diagnosis regarding homosexuality being a sin. It is an orientation, which like all sexual orientations, one can choose to act on or not, though most healthy humans will want to act on their sexual orientations in their lives, because whether some do not like to admit it or not, sex is probably one of th emain motivating forces behding a lot of what we humans do in our lives.

It would only be a sin, anyway, if the particular religion that called it a sin, was a legitimate following of a legitimate god, which has been proved to exist. Again, no such proven gods have been found.

So all of this is pretty hypothetical, and comes down to personal choices as to what we believe or do not believe, but in addition must obey the laws protecting all humans from danger.

The very bottom line is that most westernized countries are making all forms of gay oppression illegal, and so it will become an opinion that people can only hold in their heads but will not have any say in as far as how these people are to be treated, because all will be equal under the law.

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