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#522232 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>That's nice, but do you really believe it? How about your god? Does that describe your god's love of man?

The Christian god only loves in return for worship and obedience, and threatens you if you don’t offer it. Love isn't a bargain. It isn't a negotiation. And it isn't a hostage situation. It isn't coercive. It doesn’t threaten abandonment and torture, nor inflict guilt, nor fear.

Nor does love demand trust without reason, nor obeisance. Love isn't vengeful, and it isn't jealous.

Authentic love doesn’t demand obedience, and it doesn’t demand sacrifices. It doesn't demand pleading or groveling. Nor does love involve torture, bleeding, screaming, or being nailed through the hands.

The Christian god's love is a jealous and selfish love. The bible confirms this: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26

A god that wouldn't love and welcome you as you are - as he has made you - is not worth loving back. A loving god would require nothing of us, like the loving grandfather of a toddler.

And it's not just this god's love of man that is deformed. The love of man for his god is as well.

Mature, authentic love is given for the sake of the object of love. It is giving. Sacrifices are made freely and gladly. Love is generous and noble. As your citation alludes, love enables us and the object of our love. Love increases us.

Love does not make us vulnerable or dependent, yet man’s love of his god does just that. It's infantile. It’s self-serving. What can you give a god other than your devotion - the same as a baby.
I'm not explaining my faith to you, you just don't get it. I believe in God and that's that. Get over it.

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#522233 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>G_O_D wrote, "Scars was an obvious fake."

Really? How did your docs differ from his? More pixels? Better color? Have you ever heard of Photoshop?

G_O_D wrote, "I faked a whole person, I even hacked into at least two schools, the telephone company and the County Courthouse to fake everything.[?QUOTE]

Is this your argument? That wasn't a whole person. It was a half dozen or so diverse certificates with the word "Duane" on them. Scar gave us two. I'm sure that he could have provided a dozen.

The other thing that you seem to be unable to grasp is that even if those certificates were authentic, there is no more connection between them and Topix poster G_O_D than there is with Topix poster It Aint Necessarily So. Why is it so difficult for you to conceive that I could be on another thread claiming to be Duane, and offering the same "proof"?

All you've proven is that you are insecure enough to need to "prove" who you are to strangers on the Internet, and, if you are Duane, that you have the incredibly poor judgment of providing a trail to your door for anybody that wants to use it.

It's not me or any other unbeliever posting here that you need to worry about with that. It's the Christians that you offend. They're big often believers in swift, terrible vengeance.

G_O_D wrote, "ROFLMAO "

Maybe you have a seizure disorder. You seem to be in status epilepticus.

BTW, posting that kind of thing is as close to a credential as one can provide in this venue - expertise - and even it is not proof, just evidence. I know that you don't know that term, and will need to Google it to know what I'm talking about. Nobody would except somebody familiar with seizure disorders.

You, on the other hand, claim to be a computer science teacher and an expert on plagiarism, yet you didn't seem to know what plagiarism was, nor what a system is.
Now you've got me laughing my butt off.... Laughter is a seizure disorder now? Kewl.

“let's do this thang!”

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#522234 Apr 18, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
This song is so beautiful...
Ave Maria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ERwxt6s0FPoXX
<3
a roman/pagan inspired song to ashteroth, queen of heaven is beautiful to you???

i guess i should be glad when you revile me.....

Since: Dec 12

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#522235 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Faith is not a virtue. How could it be? Faith can be in anything or its opposite.
You can see it however you like Teddy, it's a ok with me.

Since: Jul 10

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#522236 Apr 18, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>He comes back for the reasons we all come back, addiction. Look at Deb lady and others who swore they were gone, only to come back and write.
We all addicted to the give and take. If the atheists were not here to make it so sweet and pleasurable to oppose them, Christians would be discussing and arguing the issues of Christianity to each other.
So when you see these atheists and wonder why they here since it obvious they writings are pointless to the Christian, consider the real reason they here, addiction.
Want to break the addiction, then find something better to do with time.
That is a good and accurate post, trifecta1. I know it describes me anyway.
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#522237 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
We're working on it:
The pioneers and missionaries of religion have been the real cause of more trouble and war than all other classes of mankind.~Edgar Allan Poe
Edgar Allen Poe?
isn't he the same guy who cut his ear off?

Since: Dec 12

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#522238 Apr 18, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>ROFLMAO

Speak the Devil's name and he will appear.

Have a nice day, Beetlejuice!
ROFL
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#522239 Apr 18, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
"You were made by God and for God, and until you understand that, life will never make sense."
Rick Warren
Why were we made for god?
Was it for some malicious entertainment?

Since: Dec 12

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#522240 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Are you having seizures, too, Juice? Do you need a bite block?

Juice's Seizure - sounds like a Roman emperor or something.

A patient once told me she had had a Gramma Seizure.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/grand-mal-se...

But perhaps the best misheard diagnosis was the who said that he had had a case of smilin' mighty Jesus. http://spinalmeningitissymptoms.com/

Now admit how grateful you are that we came and rescued this thread. You don't get material like this from the faithful. They just don't allow themselves to go there. It's not Christlike to crack wise. But who doesn't appreciate an extra yuk?
If it pleases you to think laughter and eye rolling derision are both seizures, go ahead Teddy. I don't mind at all :D

Since: Dec 12

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#522241 Apr 18, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>delusions of grandeur.
We should be grateful he's here ranting, at least he's not out in the world treating patients. Can you imagine? Oh my.
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#522242 Apr 18, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
"Your faithfulness makes you trustworthy to God."
Edwin Louis Cole
Hey, can I play?
Here's a famous quote:

I once went to Philadelphiaaaaa,
but it was clooooosed.

Charles Nelson Reilly...lol

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#522243 Apr 18, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Francis Bacon as in The Sir Francis Bacon? Rather interesting. I'm not a fan of his. Hardly a fan of anyone. My so called bigotry and useless repetition of my username has annoyed you has it? Not everyone will like what I do or say and most certainly I don't go around trying to please everyone. I really don't care who has a problem with me or who wants to join that list, this is not my concern.
Most of you in here talking about bigotry sometimes makes me sick. Sick to see what human beings have devolved into, with all our technology and expansions in language and art. Our self destructive nature cannot satisfy its own insatiable appetite for more, and more and even more. More pleasure, more freedom, more wealth, more or me and less of you, hense, less rules, less families, less government, less religion and less borders.
Which leads me to believe you do not understand. Many of the people in here have barely a clue, or they see it and refuse to know what it is they're seeing. Many of you, your intelligence is built upon a well established facade and secured in a farce, thinking that because you're able to do a little chemistry, or math, or physics that you have arrived. I will always get the silly little icons over my posts because they're placed there by people who think inside a little box.
Many of you are still mentally shackled wrestling against self, what is and what could be. the more you know the more you realize you know not enough, and you crave more, and more and more. So we seek to be taught but are not learned. Book recitals out of a text book and decent memory earns high scores, but, what do you really know for your self? I am not above anyone, but I don't play by your rules, his rules or her rules simply because you say so or because you FEEL it is right, or because it personally affects you or a family member. Hence, anyone against your established way of thinking is a bigot. Labeling me a bigot or any other colorful words you choose won't earn you anything. For sure, I will only forget it two seconds later. Hope it at least provides you with lunch.
:)
Quo Vadis
<Counter_Strike> "robble, robble, robble"

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#522244 Apr 18, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
<quoted text>
If it pleases you to think laughter and eye rolling derision are both seizures, go ahead Teddy. I don't mind at all :D
Smilin Mighty Jesus.....

Braq on God
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#522245 Apr 18, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Good Morning.....
((*_-))
Do not give up. In due season the seeds youve planted will reap an amazing harvest.
~ Thema Davis
Thought for the Day
here's one;

"Hald on thar, Bubba Louie"
~Ricky Ricardo

Since: Dec 12

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#522246 Apr 18, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Intereasting. I never knew that. Thanks.
<quoted text>
Yes, no mincing of words. No hypocrisy. Usually don't mean to offend anyone, but people do tend to be easily offended because we human beings have tons of sensitive issues to deal with and much personal baggage. Do you not agree?
<quoted text>
While I may agree with what you say here in many ways, one must remember; we can't fully overcome evil without obedience and truth, without wisdom, knowledge and understanding, without patience and faith. These 7 things are instrumental in the fight and eventual defeat of wickedness. My words may come off as arrogance, because anyone proclaiming to undiluted speak truth will be ajudged as lacking humility and proper respect.
<quoted text>
Many truths have gone out into and around the word. The Truth, not quite as yet. There are too many variances and deviations in the teachings, as one would say, not kosher. It is tainted, twisted in some aspects over time through political gain and profit and we the people, in this time, are all too satisfied and comfortable with keeping it that way, even if we know there are troublesome errors.
<quoted text>
Understood. Sorry for approaching your gate with battering rams and ballisti armed also with shield and sword. Apologies.
<quoted text>
Your Praetorian masks themselves as men of the cloth. I do not take kindly to such deceptions. LOL. So, you do enjoy a sit on banana leaves. I will be glad to join you so long as you don't have fire ants on your lawn. LOL x 10
Attempted humor.
<quoted text>
Africa, awesome. I have heard on many occasion that god no longer lives in Africa. care to enlighten us unlearned and uncivilized folk as to which 'god' that is? For I hear there are many gods in Africa as there now are in the world, even the United States. Even men have become their own gods worshiping themselves, setting themselves upon high pirch building nests even amongst the stars. What say you my friend; A long climb for a quick fall?
<quoted text>
What are you proposing of me PW? Make clear your words set towards misunderstood intent.
Andrew (CS).
Yes. Being direct is rather unappreciated these days.

Since: Dec 12

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#522247 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That's nice, but do you really believe it? How about your god? Does that describe your god's love of man?
The Christian god only loves in return for worship and obedience, and threatens you if you dont offer it. Love isn't a bargain. It isn't a negotiation. And it isn't a hostage situation. It isn't coercive. It doesnt threaten abandonment and torture, nor inflict guilt, nor fear.
Nor does love demand trust without reason, nor obeisance. Love isn't vengeful, and it isn't jealous.
Authentic love doesnt demand obedience, and it doesnt demand sacrifices. It doesn't demand pleading or groveling. Nor does love involve torture, bleeding, screaming, or being nailed through the hands.
The Christian god's love is a jealous and selfish love. The bible confirms this: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26
A god that wouldn't love and welcome you as you are - as he has made you - is not worth loving back. A loving god would require nothing of us, like the loving grandfather of a toddler.
And it's not just this god's love of man that is deformed. The love of man for his god is as well.
Mature, authentic love is given for the sake of the object of love. It is giving. Sacrifices are made freely and gladly. Love is generous and noble. As your citation alludes, love enables us and the object of our love. Love increases us.
Love does not make us vulnerable or dependent, yet mans love of his god does just that. It's infantile. Its self-serving. What can you give a god other than your devotion - the same as a baby.
Poor Teddy. You don't know what love is either? Sigh... poor poor Teddy.
high end

Lansdowne, PA

#522248 Apr 18, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text> The Atheist and the Bear!
An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the evolution had created. "What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!", he said to himself.
As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing.
He ran even faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run even faster. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.
At that instant the Atheist cried out "Oh my God!...."
Time stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
Even the river stopped moving.
As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky, "You deny my existence for all of these years; teach others I don't exist; and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"
The atheist looked directly into the light "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as Christian now, but perhaps could you make the bear a Christian?"
"Very well," said the voice.
The light went out.
The river ran again.
And the sounds of the forest resumed.
And then the bear dropped his right paw ..... brought both paws together...bowed his head and spoke:
"Lord, for this food which I am about to receive, I am truly thankful...AMEN!"
Author Unknown
Oh good!
I love jokes and clever sayings.

Here's one:

Two hillbilly christians decided to go b'ar huntin.
They hopped on their pick-up truuuuck and started on their journey.
They came to a fork on the road where there was a sign sayin "BEAR LEFT"
They both looked at each other with disappointment, threw their hands up in the air, and turned around and went home.

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#522249 Apr 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
How sinister was that? That's the disease that passes for religion in America.
Perhaps you can better understand why some Americans like me have such hostile attitudes to that church and to politicized religion. The Christian church was in large part responsible for the Bush presidency through its political endorsements, and of course, the faithful submitted and were obedient, taking the recommendations of their clergy on faith.
American citizens could have done a better job picking a president if we didn't have to contend with so many tens of millions of indoctrinees being told by their priests. pastors and ministers that George Bush was god's anointed. It's a stupid nation indeed that makes decisions like that.
And many other decision are made the same way. America will be MUCH better off when that church atrophies away, and the remaining Christians are more like you - they believe, but they aren't being led through the nose by a church.
Unbelievers have a right to be concerned and involved resisiting that. Why wouldn't we?
Is that what happened to you? Were you forced to go to 'Jesus Camp'? You have my full compassion.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#522250 Apr 18, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>It is an interesting view of atheism, as a sort of "crutch" for those who can't stand the reality of God
Tom Stoppard
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You've really got a stable of geniuses there. This one just said that not needing a god is a crutch. I suppose that walking normally is also a crutch for not needing crutches?
Yeah. It's what we're born with. Our mind >this brain<.

I think the wisdom there is that humans in general are born with everything we need to survive, such as legs, arms...a brain. Our body, IOW.

You don't normally see anyone intentionally exchanging those basic and essential components like our legs and arms for artificial components...or, for invisible brain prosthetics.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#522251 Apr 18, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
<Counter_Strike> "robble, robble, robble"
It speaks. nice. Now all we need is a nose and two ears.

CS.

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