Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#520402 Apr 14, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Similarly you come here of your own free will, and this is a discussion site, so I will discuss the topic using my opinions about the topic, and I will continue to oppose bigotry, homophobia, and people who spam the site with off topic verses or comments just because they can't present an intelligent reply to something another person has said.
If you wish to carry on a Bible study group perhaps that could be done on a site which does not promote discussion.
Granted, some may assume that the topic "Why should Jesus love me" assumes the existence of Jesus and that he is an entity that loves other human beings. If that was stated at the beginning and all agreed on that hypothesis then it would be appropriate to go on from, since Jesus exists and he loves humans, then why should he love me.
However, since all posters here obviously are not on the same page regarding the status of Jesus, we must work with what we have, which is a belief in a God, and a belief that this God also involves or includes Jesus, etc., etc.
Because it is then a belief, you are bound to get people who don't believe, and therefore to proceed with the question in the topic, we have to first get over the hump of establishing existence of Jesus.
One could also reword the topic to "If Jesus existed and if He is the Son of God, and if the Bible is a true account, then why should He love me". That would be a valid topic which people could discuss from all sides without debating about whether or not Jesus existed. I could see opportunities then to draw from the Bible things about Jesus which indicate why he should or should not love me.
If we approached it that way, then I could reply to someone who attacks a gay person, by stating the various things that Jesus said and did, in the Bible, which I think indicates why he should not love someone who is a bigot.
Actually on that thought, my main impression of Jesus was a person who poo pooed the established high and mighty and tried to show them how they should love all men.
My experience on this site, including other threads on this site, is that many Christians try to change what Jesus taught about love to make it what God taught about getting even with your enemies, killing disobedient children and wives etc.
Mark 7:20
“That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man.21“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,22deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness.23“All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man.”

Homosexuality or Fornication in the bible, is s sinful defiling immoral act called so by Jesus Himself.

If writing that makes me a bigot, then I'm a proud bigot.

To the rest of your writing, as I said do whatever you like. But you WILL deal with bible verses on this billboard. You have no choice but to deal with it.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#520403 Apr 14, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
Presumption;
Another danger besides moving out of God's timing that we can encounter with personal prophecy is moving in presumption.In another words we receive a prophecy and rather than allowing the Lord to work it out in our lives we presume to know exactly what the prophecy means and try to make it happen.The word may be accurate but the interperations can get us moving in the wrong direction.When Jesus was in the wilderness Satan quoted scripture and tried to get him to act on it.(Luke 4:1-13.
But Jesus over came the spirit of prsumption and defied Satan's attempts to get him moving out of God's timing.
Taken from Now time for your life.
"My time is not yet come" > Jesus <
But his mother told the disciples to fill up the pots with water at the wadding feast... and he acted upon this, and they had wine.

Always in God's timing there is a catalyst.
eg. medication.
Like granules in a time-release capsule, created for the purpose of benefit of the people.

Presumption creates nothing but a mistake, and is of no benefit to anyone.
LuVU2 lil sister, and God Bless.

Since: Mar 09

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#520404 Apr 14, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. arguing dogma serves no purpose and only separates ..
Whether you see any purpose for believers debating their beliefs doesn't change the fact that you expressed that view in an insulting manner. Stating that Christians are betraying their ethical system to pursue personal vendettas to argue insignificant dogma is insulting. And it is sheer hypocrisy to point out such arguments separate when you do so in an insulting manner that separates
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. insulting serves no purpose and only separates ..
Yet you hypocritically engage in it regularly, including insults about my time while incarcerated, my lack of rehabilitation, questioning my sanity, my honesty, and attacking Christians and their motives
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. paraphrasing serves no purpose and only separates ...
What??

Paraphrasing serves the purpose of paraphrasing. It expresses the general idea of what someone stated while removing the unnecessary requirement of having to use the exact wording. What serves no purpose is to deny something based on it being paraphrased without indicating that is why you made the blanket denial. It hinders honest exchanges when someone uses semantics after the fact because originally they wanted to give the false impression they don't engage in insults while chastising others for doing the same
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. my posts address principles, not personalities. If someone interprets my thoughts, feelings or beliefs on any subject as being insulting, it's on them, not me ..
Then by that logic nothing can be taken at face value and nothing you attribute to anyone else's post is anything but your interpretation. This is simply an unethical yet increasingly common tactic being employed by you and a few others to remove themselves from taking responsibility for their own words or to help someone else do the same. IE "filthy Christian liar". Some statements require no special insight or interpretation and simply speak for themselves. To claim an obvious insult isn't really an insult and its on anyone that views it as one not the person who said it simply isn't honest.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. we're done. Again. As usual, you may have the final defamatory post ..
If analyzing your behavior proves defamatory then perhaps you ought to reevaluate how you operate. A good start might be not to insult people and then complain about other's engaging in insults and not trying to blame your obvious insults on the interpretation of someone else
Doctor REALITY

United States

#520407 Apr 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
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No amen for homosexual friendly sinners like her.Goddamn hypocrite
Shut your st upi d face,MICAH,you wicked lying son of Satan.

Since: Mar 09

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#520408 Apr 14, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Good to see you both...
~~Skom~~
~~HU~~
Take Care both of you, and Love always.(((*()*))
Hey Irrira!

Thanks for the kind post

Your positive energy is a nice respite from the rigors of the daily grind

It is a nice constant that is not taken for granted

Hope all is well with you sister

(T) Peace

Since: Oct 12

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#520409 Apr 14, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Amen! G'day Serah and LW /lil sister... love Job's account too.
Hi PW;
Hi winds up 50 to 60 mph here today.Clouds of ground dirt and dust.Otherwise fine,hope the same for you God bless.
Adam

Germany

#520410 Apr 14, 2013
I am not here to bring peace but a sword until this thread is cleaned from filth and hypocrite.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#520411 Apr 14, 2013
Ooops! Double topix wammy. 4 U LW!

Since: Mar 09

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#520412 Apr 14, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Hi PW;
Hi winds up 50 to 60 mph here today.Clouds of ground dirt and dust.Otherwise fine,hope the same for you God bless.
Just waving Hi LW

(T) Peace
Adam

Germany

#520413 Apr 14, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Shut your st upi d face,MICAH,you wicked lying son of Satan.
God´s curses upon you too you evil blasphemous bastard you hypocrite and son of satans bitch, Stfu goddamn disbeliver.

Since: Mar 09

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#520414 Apr 14, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Grand Idea ~ after scrolling through many pages, I flipped to the last page and can understand what you mean.
Hey Serah!

Wanted to wave HI to you as well

(T) Peace
Doctor REALITY

United States

#520415 Apr 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
I will curse everyone who mastrubates on the laws of the prophets.
You're going to HELL,you wicked slave of Satan: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hfirdv34n7A/TQ7J88k... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-Iefy8VdG8A/SQEbSoR... http://cdn.follw.it/episodeimages/originals/4... http://thadkomorowski.files.wordpress.com/200...
Doctor REALITY

United States

#520416 Apr 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
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No amen for homosexual friendly sinners like her.Goddamn hypocrite
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71...
Doctor REALITY

United States

#520417 Apr 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
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God´s curses upon you too you evil blasphemous bastard you hypocrite and son of satans bitch, Stfu goddamn disbeliver.
http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/elt...

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#520418 Apr 14, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I once would have agreed with you. I couldn't understand why someone could get depressed and just not snap out of it, as I assumed it was self-imposed. Though it might be self-imposed to some degree, when you are in it you cannot control it.
Just hope (and pray if that helps you) that it never happens to you, as you may or you may not survive it.
I rebuke that in the name of Jesus Christ:

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version (NIV)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, JOY, PEACE, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
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Sadness and depression [may] come, but with the Spirit of YHWH God through Jesus, only for a short time. And certainly not to the point that I will need to pop pills.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#520419 Apr 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
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God´s curses upon you too you evil blasphemous bastard you hypocrite and son of satans bitch, Stfu goddamn disbeliver.
http://mattalltrades.files.wordpress.com/2010...

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#520420 Apr 14, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Hi PW;
Hi winds up 50 to 60 mph here today.Clouds of ground dirt and dust.Otherwise fine,hope the same for you God bless.
Strong ones lil sister!
... about 100kmh.
We get them now and then, but not that desert dust where we are. Have seen some huge dust storms tho. Is that early for your spring to be so dry after snows? Stay safe... xx
Adam

Germany

#520421 Apr 14, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
O yeah? Who do you think you are? You little evil ignorant blasphemous disbeliever in god you evil servant and spokesmen of the devil. That will be your place where you dwell.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#520422 Apr 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
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God´s curses upon you too you evil blasphemous bastard you hypocrite and son of satans bitch, Stfu goddamn disbeliver.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search...

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#520423 Apr 14, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Can I assume that you have no knowledge of mental illnesses? I was in rehab with two medical doctors, one of which checked himself out intending to commit suicide though we never were told if he actually did do it?
I am proud of the fact that I went through what I did and am still alive and functioning, and I have a happy marriage, two children, who have had 6 grandchildren. Some people have to deal with strokes, heart attacks, paralysis, and go on. At least my problems left me functional - so far. I had the doctor take me off all meds one year, and after that suffered a major depression, which was far worse than I had ever been before.
I won't do that again. In fact I asked my doctor, perhaps last year, if he thought that attempting to go off meds would be a good thing, now that I am retired and don't have to be stressed by work any longer, and he definitely advised against it. This is the same doctor who agreed to take me off meds before, so I don't think he is just keeping me on for the monetary benefit to him.
No, you are not right. My mental problems may have been indirectly caused by some of the attitudes I had as a Christian but my turning from Christianity had nothing do do with my mental problems. I also did not leave Christianity because of any animosity or bad feelings. I just gradually moved away from it, as it became clearer to me that it was based on mythology. Perhaps having more time to read and think when I was disabled helped me to actually think about these things rather than blindly going along with the things that I had been indoctrinated into.
I am not opposed to Christianity or a belief in God now. I just get a bit ticked with believers who treat others badly who are not believers, and also some of the beliefs that are harming people. I also do not believe there is any truth behind the beliefs in the supernatural, so it is rather silly to participate when I don't believe it is true.
Whatever gets you through life is fine with me. Congratulations on your family.

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