Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Sep 08

~ I See A Rainbow! ~

#518404 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Cause, we just wanted to go there, Hong Kong, not another topix :-)
Oh Hi Lupylu.. Just click your heels three times and you and duane are there,HUH??? I always wanted to visit..BUT it looks like a very,very crowded city.. I am not one for crowds... Hope you are still here..

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#518405 Apr 10, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
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Mornin Mac....
Great to see you
:-)

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#518406 Apr 10, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Hey HFY,
I have to ask, after all our past conversations, if you are serious, why do you say in me it is a beautiful thing?
Wow 6000 miles, that’s way too far to live from your parents. I know you miss them. I’m thinking that you all as a whole put more importance on parental approval than we do. If so that is a good thing. That is if a person has good parents.
HFN
Because in some people, faith is an ugly thing. It's used to produce and justify immoral behavior. I don't even have to list any examples, because everyone immediately knows what I mean.

But here's a nice, light example anyways:

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/24/my_day_at_wes...

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#518407 Apr 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Why are you upset that she tried to get the thread back on topic with scripture discussions ?
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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Who's upset?
I just told her if she doesnt like the threads direction she could leave or skip over the posts she viewed as spam..........
.. admit it, you'd miss me. Everyone dreams of the HL experience ..

Since: Sep 08

~ I See A Rainbow! ~

#518408 Apr 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jjNgn4r6SOAXX
Hi Happy Lesbo.. geez! His surgery is Friday..I dont remember writing tomorrow..But I did.. Both of my sons are coming by to pick him up and put him in the passenger seat in the truck..Then off I go to Grand Rapids,MI. Just jumping in head first here.. Catch me..I am drowning in BS..Yes.I am reading..

Since: Jan 11

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#518409 Apr 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Wrong. So wrong.
Use me as an example. I believe in the existence of God, very much so.
There's no way you could consider me an atheist because I believe that Zeus isn't real, I believe in A deity which negates the possibility of me being considered atheist.
LOL. Beat the shit outta that strawman.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
No, just the word, "faith".
I thought you claimed that atheists have faith.

Because you are equivocating, I don't know what you're talking about. Stop doing that, and maybe we can communicate.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You won't use it.
You use "trust" instead.
For me, talking about the way I think, "trust" is the more appropriate word every single time. Outside of a technical discussion, I may use the word "faith", but I never actually have faith in anything.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
A *particular* lack of belief is what makes a person an atheist, ie; the lack if belief in the existence of deities.
Atheists have loads of beliefs, including their belief about deities.
I say it's a belief because its not a fact, unless of course you can show evidence that deities don't exist....
If you can't, your opinion that deities don't exist us your belief.
Atheists are as varied as all humans, except for that which makes them atheists.

Lacking a belief is not a belief.

You can believe there are no gods without using faith.

Since: Sep 08

~ I See A Rainbow! ~

#518410 Apr 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo.. I love a woman singer.. I certainly can relate... What a Blessing these Celtic Women are.. Soo Divine.. ENJOY.

Since: Jan 11

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#518411 Apr 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I didn't say anything about religious faith.
The word "faith" is not limited to a religious context.
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What does that have to do with you having faith in your belief about deities?
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Again, you're stuck on religious faith, not faith.
Faith is complete trust or confidence in something.
I'm sure you have faith in yourself...
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For a man that knows so many eloquent words it seems strange that the only form of faith you can think if is religious faith...
You have faith in your wife, yes?
You have faith that you'll see the sun on the horizon tomorrow morning, yes?
You have faith, just not faith in religion.
You just turned your equivocation fallacy into a strawman fallacy.

I'm disappointed.

Since: Sep 08

~ I See A Rainbow! ~

#518412 Apr 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
G_O_D wrote:
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Why are you upset that she tried to get the thread back on topic with scripture discussions ?
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.. admit it, you'd miss me. Everyone dreams of the HL experience ..
What experience?? You mentioned it many times..Whats all the excitement about?? Is satisfaction Guaranteed???

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#518413 Apr 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>**PORTIONS SNIPPED**I am going to give this particular thread a few more days, to see if I want to stay here.
.. if I beg, will you stay? Your calm is needed on this thread ..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#518414 Apr 10, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Because in some people, faith is an ugly thing. It's used to produce and justify immoral behavior. I don't even have to list any examples, because everyone immediately knows what I mean.
But here's a nice, light example anyways:
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/24/my_day_at_wes...
.. quit defiling my church !!..

.. hi ya, HFY ..

Smooch, HL

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#518415 Apr 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. this logic is correct unfortunately some theologians and bible translations claim Ephesians 4:18 also refers to intelligence ..
Ephesians 4:18 (CJB) "Their INTELLIGENCE has been shrouded in darkness, and they are estranged from the life of God, because of the ignorance in them, which in turn comes from resisting God’s will."
.. let's delete my reference to intelligence. Can we agree that this verse claims non-believers are ignorant? If so, all Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, Jews, Shintos and Hindus are dense. Since Ephesians is part of the New Testament, isn't this an affront to members of the human tribe who are not Christian ??..
What do you suppose the ignorance is in that context?

I've heard this, sums it up pretty well.

Remember, it is in this context, not all.

He speaks of a simple and well-known fact - a fact that is seen now as well as then that the understanding becomes darkened by indulgence in sin.

A person who is intemperate, has no just views of the government of the appetites.

A person who is unchaste, has no perception of the loveliness of purity.

A person who is avaricious or covetous, has no just views of the beauty of benevolence.

A person who indulges in low vices, will weaken his mental powers, and render himself incapable of intellectual effort.

Indulgence in vice destroys the intellect as well as the body, and unfits a person to appreciate the truth of a proposition in morals, or in mathematics, or the beauty of a poem, as well as the truth and beauty of religion.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#518416 Apr 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. sin is "an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law." Leviticus contains many 'divine laws' which some Christians say no longer apply, others disagree ..
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They don't apply, unless you're a Levite...

It's a shame that fact is not well known.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#518417 Apr 10, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Fallacy of Equivocation.
Actually, it's a homonym, not a fallacy.

But since you're afraid of knowing you have faith, not religious faith, we can drop this if you want.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#518418 Apr 10, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Atheism is a lack of belief in deities.
Whatever beliefs I may personally have are irrelevant to what atheism is, and what makes me an atheist.
Do you understand?
Fallacy of Equivocation.

You say "Atheism is a lack of belief in deities".

I said "Atheism is the belief in the non-existence of deities".

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#518419 Apr 10, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Because in some people, faith is an ugly thing. It's used to produce and justify immoral behavior. I don't even have to list any examples, because everyone immediately knows what I mean.
But here's a nice, light example anyways:
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/24/my_day_at_wes...
You mean religious faith, right?

Cuz everyone's got faith in something.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#518421 Apr 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Fallacy of Equivocation.
You say "Atheism is a lack of belief in deities".
I said "Atheism is the belief in the non-existence of deities".
Atheists are children of the devil.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#518422 Apr 10, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:

LOL. Beat the shit outta that strawman.
Nothing about that was exaggerated or misrepresented. It wasn't a strawman, it was fact. There's no way a person that believes in A deity, any deity, can be considered atheist.
I thought you claimed that atheists have faith.
Because you are equivocating, I don't know what you're talking about. Stop doing that, and maybe we can communicate.
If either one of us is attempting to conceal truth, it's you.

Your mind is too stuck on religious faith to think if any other faith.

Maybe that's our fault for using the word "faith" too much.
For me, talking about the way I think, "trust" is the more appropriate word every single time. Outside of a technical discussion, I may use the word "faith", but I never actually have faith in anything.
You do, you just said you do; "trust" also means faith. Actually, faith is complete trust - which I'm sure you possess that too.
Atheists are as varied as all humans, except for that which makes them atheists.
Lacking a belief is not a belief.
Yes, but it's not "belief" we're tuck on here. I'm not saying anything about you having any kind of religious belief.

What you have is a non-religious belief - that deities don't exist.

Unless you can demonstrate that deities do not in fact exist, then you're opinion is a belief.
You can believe there are no gods without using faith.
There ya go. You believe there are no gods.

We're done here, thank you.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#518423 Apr 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Fallacy of Equivocation.
You say "Atheism is a lack of belief in deities".
I said "Atheism is the belief in the non-existence of deities".
You have a generally good disposition.

It's a shame you can be so damn moronic.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#518424 Apr 10, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
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Find myself wondering at the very idea of where Christian opinion is welcome on here….I cant say that I questioned it before, perhaps my own perception has become skewed at this point.
Oh, even some of us infidels don't mind.

Hi, NS4.

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