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#518108 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Fair enough. I'll have a discussion when there is one to be had, I'm not interested in trading barbs with people all the time, anymore.
I love Bible study as well, this thread used to be a great one for that. Now it's a joke, like most threads in topix.
I always appreciate it when scripture is posted and sometimes even discussed, without mockery. I know others that appreciate it also.
No one has the right to tell me or anyone else what we can post and how to post.
No one has the right to tell anyone how or when they can post, but when people (and some do) constantly post things that are irrelevent to the topic, it takes up space, and makes it difficult to catch up to posts because you have to skip through all the irrelevent stuff to get to the next post that might have something in it to discuss.

I think even though thisthread seesm more geared to believers because of the title, it is still asking for people to discuss their opinions about the question asked. A Bible verse is only a Bible verse. It says nothing about what the poster thinks himself, except that possibly all he knows how to do is post Bible verses.

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#518109 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing I've ever liked about church was singing, I love to sing :-)
I love singing too, and sometime last year I started recording on my computer myself singing, and using the program Audacity, I add various tracks of my singing the same song in different parts. Though it is pretty amateurish, I enjoy it, and I have even taken to listening to myself on my earphones whne I am doing other things, sometimes.

Most of the songs I have recorded so far are religious songs, because they are the ones I know the best, from my background in religion, and I find easiest to sing, having done so many times in the past. I do not sing them because I still believe, but because I like the songs, or I live singing the songs.

I am a bit confused though that the only thing you ''liked' aboiut church is the singing, yet you are really into quoting and posting Bible verses.

No offence intended; just confused.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#518110 Apr 10, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good early morning to you Annie. first off as I can only speak for myself, I laid my assessment of Booosts and his church based off of what he himself have told me in previous posts about his organization, he said that it is a very huge movement somewhere in Canada ( Toronto if I'm not mistaken ) the largest in his area there, he said that some time back that his movement switched away from some type of protestant based doctrine to a more worldly type of humanism teaching, and by his own words said that they have exempted both God and his Word out of their practices and discussions, a "church" that does not practice and teach the Lord Jesus Christ who IS his Word.
How can that be considered anything as viable as a church by it's truest definition when they have disallowed the chief corner stone itself, what are they building on?.........I know that you are not a believer but does that really make any sense to you?
So it's very apparent that he has picked up the spirit that reside in that organization that he was in for so many years, ask him about it, if I have misrepresented any of the info that he has given me concerning himself or his church, he can come behind me and correct it.
Peace.
Lawest...I will say...Christians have changed since my day. I struggle with that because there are many that are nothing like what I was taught that a "Christian" should be.

Maybe I should just leave it at that. I am apt to set off a tirade.

I will say however...what would have sent me to hell in my day now seems to be the latest doctrine.

Since: Dec 12

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#518111 Apr 10, 2013
Each person takes what they need from Bible passages or chooses to ignore them. You come in here you will read Bible passages, if you take a certain passage to heart, don't always assume that the person who posted it is calling you names, if I wanted to call you names, I'd keep the Bible out of it personally.

I read all the put downs of our faith and even agree with a great deal of it, this whining seems to me like some people might think that free speech is a one way concept, their way.

Example; some here are posting as though every believer here is personally responsible for the woes that religion and churches have caused in the world, so I post Revelation, why?

Because we know, we were told and we have also experienced it.

Another example; IANS stop being a hypocrite! See how I did not use a Bible passage to call you a hypocrite?

Another example; Some people choose the snide remarks way of saying they don't read the Bible passages, it's all good, no one has to read them but it may help you look less knowledgeable about what it is you're actually ranting about, instead of just memorising some passages you don't understand and use out of context.

Just sayin'.

Since: Sep 08

I See A Rainbow!

#518112 Apr 10, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey L Lover,
So your husbands operation is this Friday. What are they doing for him, if you donít mind talking about it? I will pray for him, you and your family.
Iím good, how are you and yours doing with your husbandís illness and all?
I know you care, thank you. It was heart breaking but with time, knowing they are in a better place and that I will see them again itís ok. It wasnít the end for them I just will not be able to see them for awhile. They are with God, I will join them sooner or later.
:)ing at you Sister,
HFN
Hi Here For Now..I been on an emotional Roller Coaster dealing with his complications of his incurable disease.He was rushedd to the Hospital on March 13.He had an absess below bellybutton..on the inside of body....HAD Emergency surgery in ER..........Had to drain it.,,,,,,,and control blood pressure,and vital signs, Give two units of Blood.. Was given major antibiotics.interveneously...H e was in critical condition and put in ICU.....Many people Prayed... Next day upgraded to GOOD.....Kept him for a week..NOW hospital bed in living room.....Nurses helping daily.... Trying to get his strength back before going back in.....He is 120 pounds..........skin and bones.. No fat... OK.. Friday he is scheduled for major surgery.. They are going to cut the diseased part out of his small intestine,, and sew back together.. He will be in Hospital a week or more.......Depends on outcome.. Keep him in your Prayers..I am really down..emotionally..

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#518113 Apr 10, 2013
*more knowledgeable*

Since: Jul 10

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#518114 Apr 10, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Hey B,
The name of this thread is Why Should Jesus Love Me? It should not surprise you that scripture is being posted. Frankly I donít think it surprises you at all. That you came because you knew scripture would be posted and you could criticize it and harass people that believed in it. Believe or not, God has seen and heard all this and will see and hear all that is to be. He is with us because we are His Children. You are harassing Gods Children. So go ahead and enjoy it while you can, one day the time for that will be over and so will be your chance to choose.
He would like for you to be His too but lets you choose.
The reason that we originally came together was to find others to grow in our walk with God with and that is what happened. We got together and shared our blessings. Help each other through trying times. We explained what we thought about passages in the Bible, etc... We did not get together so unbelievers could use us as doormats. And doormats are what they have been trying to make out of us for years now. But, as you can see we are still here. God must still have a purpose for having led each of us to the same thread. I donít remember the name of the one God first led me to. But the Sisters and Brothers have help me to grow in my walk with God and no matter what God leads me to next, here or not, I thank Him for bringing us together to praise Him and share with each other. I certainly would have been missing a lot had I not met them.
Blessings my Sisters and Brothers in Christ.
Iím also glad I met some that do not claim to be Christians. May God be with you.
HFN
HFN, I guess I came on this thread too late to see that it was a group of Christians, sharing, and encouraging each other. When I came here from other threads, some of which the topics were not about a god, my experience was having "Christians' attacking other posters on a constant basis, and when I came here some of those same posters were here, along with some from the opposite point of view, who I knew from other threads, and so I pretty much just fell into the same mentality that was in the other threads.

Even when I loved to be amongst Christians and to have mutual "love-ins", I was not interested in having people just quoting scriptures.

If that is what people want to do, and that is all they want to do, then I am not interested, nor can I see what holds their interest.

I have read many of Stephen King's books and love his writings, but if I had to read pages from his books every day on a discussion site, I would not stay long.

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#518115 Apr 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You would be surprised how few people actually believe in God. Most seem to believe in books and charismatic story tellers.
hu

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#518116 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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I agree Annie, I'm trying real hard :-)
I agree...it is very hard at times to be kind. I don't think that kindness comes naturally for people...I believe that it is something that we have to work at. Our instinct is to fight back least we become a doormat to those that have the intent to be unkind. As humans we are not designed to do so.

I have to hold off posting in a place such as Topix at times...those times that I just can't find "kindness".

I also think that no matter what someones intention is or was there will be some that look for the "attack" when none was intended. I think we all do it...see smoke when there wasn't any.

I don't know...I love debate...just don't like the personal attacks. Problem is...we all have a different definition as to what "personal attacks" mean I suppose.

Since: Dec 12

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#518117 Apr 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
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No one has the right to tell anyone how or when they can post, but when people (and some do) constantly post things that are irrelevent to the topic, it takes up space, and makes it difficult to catch up to posts because you have to skip through all the irrelevent stuff to get to the next post that might have something in it to discuss.
I think even though thisthread seesm more geared to believers because of the title, it is still asking for people to discuss their opinions about the question asked. A Bible verse is only a Bible verse. It says nothing about what the poster thinks himself, except that possibly all he knows how to do is post Bible verses.
It says a lot about what a poster thinks if said poster has faith in God, we who do, read the Bible, study it and try to live in way that we are guided to live, some of us even read all the Holy books and look into history to try to determine what is factual, what is a parable and what we are to take from it all.

The scripture posted usually has a meaning and is relevant to the topic being discussed and we also do it in order to exchange ideas and learn more about the most studied, controversial and misunderstood book ever written.

For many believers, scripture is a life instruction manual they are trying to fully understand and no amount of mockery will ever change that.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

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#518118 Apr 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
I love singing too, and sometime last year I started recording on my computer myself singing, and using the program Audacity, I add various tracks of my singing the same song in different parts. Though it is pretty amateurish, I enjoy it, and I have even taken to listening to myself on my earphones whne I am doing other things, sometimes.
Most of the songs I have recorded so far are religious songs, because they are the ones I know the best, from my background in religion, and I find easiest to sing, having done so many times in the past. I do not sing them because I still believe, but because I like the songs, or I live singing the songs.
I am a bit confused though that the only thing you ''liked' aboiut church is the singing, yet you are really into quoting and posting Bible verses.
No offence intended; just confused.
I grew up in a little country church. We had no air conditioning or even electric fans. In the spring we would throw up the windows in order to have a breeze blow through. Seems as if there was always a slight breeze from the "holler".

We had several "old coots" that wouldn't be caught dead inside a church but on any given Sunday starting in spring you would find them sitting in their old beat up pickups across the road in the cemetery...listening to the music...singing along. Then when the preaching would start you could hear them start their engines and take off!

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#518119 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
*more knowledgeable*
Mornin;
Just dragged myself from under the covers first cup in hand naughty woman slept in.Flipped the switch on this machine and this place is busy as a mall or a freeway this mornin.Well have a grand day.God bless.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

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#518120 Apr 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
I generally don't read them either, and if I read part of the posts, I skip the Bible verses.
I assume that people post verses when they have no thoughts of their own.
I used to read them...

I quit however when it seemed to make a few of them angry that I would ask why they choose a particular verse...what it meant to them...how it affected their lives.

I pissed a few of them off so I just stopped reading them. It seemed as if Bible verses were off limits to discussion...at least for a few of them.

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#518121 Apr 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I love singing too, and sometime last year I started recording on my computer myself singing, and using the program Audacity, I add various tracks of my singing the same song in different parts. Though it is pretty amateurish, I enjoy it, and I have even taken to listening to myself on my earphones whne I am doing other things, sometimes.
Most of the songs I have recorded so far are religious songs, because they are the ones I know the best, from my background in religion, and I find easiest to sing, having done so many times in the past. I do not sing them because I still believe, but because I like the songs, or I live singing the songs.
I am a bit confused though that the only thing you ''liked' aboiut church is the singing, yet you are really into quoting and posting Bible verses.
No offence intended; just confused.
Yes, gospel music is very beautiful and singing is wonderfully uplifting.

Church and Bible are not the same things. I have intimate knowledge of mind control tactics used by churches and cults. Many preachers out there, deliberately misinterpret the scripture to suit their agenda. It's just something that I personally have seen and experienced and am uncomfortable with. Church is also where one finds lots of hypocrites and I don't like it.

Like what the church did to AnnieJ, that breaks my heart and had I been present I would have gotten banned from the grounds defending her and her boy. Everyone sins, everyone but no one has a right to treat a person that way. Ok, police and a judge can punish us for breaking laws but the whole 'judging righteously' that many many Christians and other religious people do, every day, is like seeing Jesus, walking up to Him, and spitting directly in His face then kicking Him in the nads, hard.

It's not just and it's not right and a true believer in God, not in religion or books, but God, knows that God will deal with it and we are just to try to love everyone and set an example. Scripture is a guide and just because it describes the judgements of GOD, it does not give us the right to judge others or to be cruel.

People are just going to start killing Christians and Muslims soon if they don't manage to wipe each other out. Evil has done its job. Well.

Since: Dec 12

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#518122 Apr 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
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HFN, I guess I came on this thread too late to see that it was a group of Christians, sharing, and encouraging each other. When I came here from other threads, some of which the topics were not about a god, my experience was having "Christians' attacking other posters on a constant basis, and when I came here some of those same posters were here, along with some from the opposite point of view, who I knew from other threads, and so I pretty much just fell into the same mentality that was in the other threads.
Even when I loved to be amongst Christians and to have mutual "love-ins", I was not interested in having people just quoting scriptures.
If that is what people want to do, and that is all they want to do, then I am not interested, nor can I see what holds their interest.
I have read many of Stephen King's books and love his writings, but if I had to read pages from his books every day on a discussion site, I would not stay long.
I LOVE Stephen King novels and if we were discussing them we would quote from his books, anyone belonging to a book club knows this. Bible study and discussion requires quoting from the Bible. Some days I come in here and read and want no part of it, so will post scripture relevant to the ranting at hand and will keep doing it until the topic is back on track. When you post to me in order to have a civilised discussion, I respond in kind. I have to learn to control my temper you see and scripture sometimes helps me to do that and this thread is for the purpose of discussing Jesus not for the purpose of war. You don't understand, I get that but it's what we do boots :)

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#518123 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Hardness of heart does not mean lack of compassion, as the world has become more painful, many have hardened their hearts toward God and one another, for self preservation. It's sort of like choosing to have no hope in order to avoid heart break.
.. there are many translations of Ephesians 4:18 but a few things are abundantly clear ..
http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ephesian...

.. this verse claims a non-believer lacks intelligence and is ignorant. The 'hardness of the heart' is usually interpreted as an insensitivity to man's moral nature ..

.. when called on the insulting nature of a post, some Christians quote scripture to validate their cheap shots, a contradiction of Matthew 5:22 ..

"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says,'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire."

.. Christians who claim the bible endorses their condemnations and insults violate Matthew 5:22. Such behavior is hypocritical ..
LupyLu wrote:
<quoted text>
As for your last question, I'll answer with a question, why do you think I posted it?
.. some Christians have agreed to spam this thread ..
LupyLu wrote:
<quoted text>I myself need that reminder too, lest I start being nasty, which I don't like doing and am not meant to do.
.. there's a difference between a personal attack and a critique of concepts. Claiming a comment is intellectually dishonest is vastly different from calling a person intellectually dishonest (or a liar, demonic, perverted, immoral, etc., etc.)..

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#518124 Apr 10, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Why canít people keep their disgusting behavior and saying to them selves and think about them without sharing them with others. I would rather read scripture that some of the stuff non-believers have been posting on this thread!
I agree that some of the things that non-believers post is disgusting, however I think there is still room for dialogue between believers and non-believers without the personal attacks, and the proselytizing. If this thread is just for believers then proselytizing is irrelevent. If it is to discuss the subject posted, then even believers differ widely on Jesus and the Bible.

To discuss these differences we need to make points, and discuss them, or attempt to refute them, if one feels the point is incorrect, or one disagrees with it. Posting a Bible verse does not provide personal input. This is especially the case when one person posts several Bible verses in a row, with no comments, which I have seen a lot of on this thread.

I strongly believe these people are much like the trolls who come to other sites, just there to do their own thing, and to heck with what the thread is about. I could be wrong.

Since: Oct 12

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#518125 Apr 10, 2013
Food for thought;

What will you do when God knocks at your door and tells you I come for you?

What will you do when you see only the clothes laying on the floor of a loved one who has been sudden taken by him??

Can you say it not been happening all along with people disappearing with not trace ever found???

In the field one will be left and one will be taken.Give it some thought people.

Since: Jul 10

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#518126 Apr 10, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Thing is Alice, I do love Alice btw, it is classified or labelled, if you like, as a religion.
Like Catholicism is classified and labelled as Christianity, it's not Christianity, not even close but no one cares about that when they wish to fling their evil (vatican) at random strangers.
I personally don't approve of the Vatican or what it does and what it stands for, but the RC church is the church from which all the existing denominations originally came from, so it seems rather strange to say that Roman Catholicism is not Christianity.

RCs think they are as much Christian as do any other of the Christian denominations.

Having said that, seeing people fighting between the denominations has its positive side, because it indicates a breakdown in the main principle behind all the churches, and hopefully an end to beliefs in iamginary entities, who man is "suppsoed' to spend his whole life worshiping, rather than doing what humans do while they are alive on this earth.

As the future President Lincoln said on June 17, 1858, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." (I looked that up as I did not know or remember that Lincoln was given credit for that comment)

The many denominations and rifts within the Christian Church will destroy it eventually, though I suspect that it might dissolve simply through lack of interest as more and more people become more involved in life rather than the supernatural. Actually that is rapidly happened now in the West.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#518127 Apr 10, 2013
Never thought I would read the day where on a thread about Jesus, some claim that Scripture from the Bible is pointless, and spam. Odd that when posting on Winlac I very rarely posted Scripture due to the tone of the thread and regulars saying that it was ďnot a Christian threadĒ (I respected the request due to being the outsider)Ö..now when I stop over here to a Christian thread people belittle what Scripture means to us as Christians, like it should not offend us. I have been reading for years now people write, ďif you want to post Scripture head on over to Why should Jesus love meďÖ.on ptag and winlac. Now suddenly its an issue to post scripture on a thread that was deemed a Christian thread by non-Christians as well, *this* is the thread I was constantly directed to by non-Christians because I am a ChristianÖÖ.I wish folks would make up their minds.

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