“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#514240 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:<quoted text>.. if the individual is gay, always lies and never showers, no it would not be bigoted. It would be insensitive but truthful ..
Skombolis wrote:
Whether something is true doesnt mean it cant be bigoted if that truth is being used as an unrelated slur. why would it be insensitive to say you a filthy gay liar then if I believed it to be true that you were dirty and dishonest?
HL is correct. This is the part you're not grasping.

You've said before that you feel a persons sexual orientation is inherent, just as being black or white or tall or short is something that is a part of someone. People have no choice in their sexual expression from birth, hair color, skin color, height etc.. Those are states of being, conditions or characteristics that humans are born with.

In other words, they aren't beliefs.

I can say: "You lying Libertarian bastard!".

That isn't a bigoted statement. It may be a poor choice of words in how you feel about another person, but it isn't bigoted.

If I say: "All Libertarians are lying bastards!"

That is a bigoted statement - and also - a poor choice of words.

Tide has been pointing out that same concept as well.

Exchange any named belief set, Vegetarian, Model Airplane Enthusiast, Wood Carver, Socialist, Democrat, Christian, Hindu or Muslim - for instances - with *Libertarian* in the two above examples and it will hold true.

This has been covered before, and specifically addressed to you. http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/topstor...

I'll also restate this again; I think a case could be made in which if you use the Libertarian or Christian ideology(or any Institution/ideology) as a means to escape criticism or opinion, by saying it is bigoted to give an opinion about you or a group would be an instance in which leveling the charge of bigotry against another could be bigotry in and of itself.

I think all beliefs are open for criticism, examination and even condemnation at times - they should be open to that type of scrutiny, else we lose all freedom - and it isn't bigoted to express those views or opinions, as long as we avoid blanket statements as pointed out above.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#514241 Apr 2, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Skombolis,
I think it all boils down to the gang thinks it can do what ever helps their cause but we canít unless it helps their cause.
The old double standard again. I donít think the gang is getting away with it like they want to. But then they think Christians are stupid and will not notice. Or, maybe the gang is the ones that donít get it. LOL
Most of what they have been, so called enlightening us about is hogwash.
Back to scrolling, at least it also helps me catch up faster.:)
1. You are a handsome, articulate, intelligent white man.
2. You are an ugly, inarticulate, dumb white man.

.. are either of these statements bigoted if they are true ??..

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#514242 Apr 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Like I said before...just have sex with him and get it over with. It will save us all a bunch of time. Im not going over all the same things yet again.
He can't. I'm teaching him to be a lesbian. It will be extremely painful at first (there may be surgery involved and some hormonal treatments) but, dammit, I'm worth it.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#514243 Apr 2, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
You were right...
mmmmmm
Should I REPEAT it!
Nah... time marches on and some eyes and eyes remain closed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
That leaves time to dance.
Returned as promised to do that dance.lol I did not understand the lanuage but I read the happy body lanuage in the video.Lil fellows got all the right moves and the right shakes of happiness.Thanks Pw.God bless lu2

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#514244 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
That's correct. If you direct it at an individual, it's an insensitive insult. If you direct it at the entire population that the individual identifies with, it's bigotry.
Or something like that.
Anybody have a spare magnet?
You identified the grey area.

I evaluate the intent separately from the effect.

A bigot can express bigotry using the exact same words as a non bigot. Let's say that the language itself is not bigoted. The non bigot could use bigoted language while not expressing bigotry, through ignorance, for example.

Bigoted language does not always come from bigots, and you can express bigotry through very nice polite language.

Or something like that.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#514245 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I called somebody a bigot on this thread, Skom, and I got schooled for it. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong, when I'm wrong. It may be an age thing, I don't know. I have no way of knowing. Here is an example of insult.
<quoted text>
If Rosa had said, "All German people are filthy Nazi liars", that would be bigotry (as far as I know:)
I would never say that about ALL Germans, because I know they're not like that. Some of them are lovely people. Some have said they feel ashamed about the WWII atrocities.

Adam OTOH has shown he is all that, and worse.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#514246 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
He can't. I'm teaching him to be a lesbian. It will be extremely painful at first (there may be surgery involved and some hormonal treatments) but, dammit, I'm worth it.
Would boobs be enough for you?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#514247 Apr 2, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I post a secret?!
Was it so secret it slipped your mind?
~~~smile~~~
Can't remember a secret myself!
Are you referring to Native Americans?
It's just that the terms 'native and heathens' has not been a nice term where I come from just because Indigenous folk are different.
I shall explain,Native among some of us is known as a healer use of herbs some come from the mountains growing wild.Native meaning natural herb.Not as in Native American Indian.And term heathen is term used when one causes death to another without a reason a death for no reason other then evil act.Please realize just a small peek into the world of which I live.Yes folks are different,there is also self since of justice here too among the people.God bless lu2
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#514248 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
He can't. I'm teaching him to be a lesbian. It will be extremely painful at first (there may be surgery involved and some hormonal treatments) but, dammit, I'm worth it.
Maybe he's a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
:-)

Since: Sep 08

I See A Rainbow!

#514249 Apr 2, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome to the thread.
Note to self written in stone.lol
Hi LIL Whispers.Just jumping in here.. "That Guy" is a very decent gentleman friend.I met in topix.....He mentioned that He needs a new direction in his life.. Soo I thought of bringing him here.. I am Back where I belong.. I attended a Ladies Dinner and Devotion tonight.. It was very Enlightening.. How have you been????????

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#514250 Apr 2, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
lol you talking of the dark I wonder around all night in it.Spring is suppose to be here but news people saying another dusting of snow here tonight.Temps dropped too.Long winter nights and short days or long days and short nights.What kind of birds are singing?
I have hundreds of them in the back yard ~ a cacophony of noise makes a birdie harmony.... not sure what types they are, there are quite a few different species but the magpies are the only ones out the front that warble away. They are also usually the first birds to start singing :)

It will soon be very cold here ~ and not looking forward to it at all!!

Since: Mar 13

Walnut, CA

#514251 Apr 2, 2013
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Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#514252 Apr 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>It does seem to be either they think very poor arguments are good ones or they think other people will think that. Its pointless either way yet revealing as to the true nature. Great to see you HFN.(T) PEACE
Great to see you too Skombolis. I was wondering where you were but figured you were just busy with your off topix life.
HFN
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#514253 Apr 2, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yeah... maybe Dim and stupid are not considered "character attacks" unless it is said to one of his buddies... these people actually sit here talking about their 'integrity'.... odd.
Hi L L
I agree. Integrity? I ainít seen much from them.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#514254 Apr 2, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe he's a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
:-)
The marriage and family concept of a man and a woman should be protected and strengthened under righteous laws.

Gay marriage is only a imitation of the concept of marriage between a man and a woman, a plagiarism.
One part plays the husband, while the other part moves into the role of women.No pride only shame.

BTW your comment is a plagiarism
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#514255 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
1. You are a handsome, articulate, intelligent white man.
2. You are an ugly, inarticulate, dumb white man.
.. are either of these statements bigoted if they are true ??..
Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, and intolerance on the basis of a person's race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, religion, language, socioeconomic status, or other status.

You guys are bigots in more that one way.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#514256 Apr 2, 2013
Lifelover wrote:
<quoted text> Hi LIL Whispers.Just jumping in here.. "That Guy" is a very decent gentleman friend.I met in topix.....He mentioned that He needs a new direction in his life.. Soo I thought of bringing him here.. I am Back where I belong.. I attended a Ladies Dinner and Devotion tonight.. It was very Enlightening.. How have you been????????
I happy for both you and friend.I hope he sticks around and becomes a regular with everyone.Tis good you attend a ladies dinner and devotion too.As for me I doin fine theses days.God bless.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#514257 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
He can't. I'm teaching him to be a lesbian. It will be extremely painful at first (there may be surgery involved and some hormonal treatments) but, dammit, I'm worth it.
Dart tootin! But dont let him cut in front of me. If I get to go first I will even wear a wig if that helps! It will fulfill like 4 fantasies of mine which ironically the wig isnt one of them! LOL...good sense of humor, smart hot lesbian asian teenager pretty much makes up the 4!!
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#514258 Apr 2, 2013
Thereīs no such thing being a lesbian trapped in manīs body. ADAM was the first human and first man, There wasnīt humans (including lesbians which is not from the Lord but from Satan) created before him. EVE was taken from Adamīs rip. Does this mean he was a homo? Of course not.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#514259 Apr 2, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
<quoted text>
Great to see you too Skombolis. I was wondering where you were but figured you were just busy with your off topix life.
HFN
I have been so buried my friend. And truthfully I shouldnt even be messin with my phone at work much any more as things are kind of changing as far as what we can and cant do but today I had some autonomy. But recently cant check during the day and the incentive to catch up let alone post at 4am just isnt there normally. I do miss seeing some of you guys though:)

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