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Tide with Beach wrote:

How many homosexual people do you think are in America right now, living a lie?
How many do you think there are?

And what lie are they living (if that's possible)?

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. if the individual is gay, always lies and never showers, no it would not be bigoted. It would be insensitive but truthful ..
I've already given an example of when I was a filthy gay liar.

Some would argue that I'm not gay but lesbian. I don't distinguish between the two words.

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LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>No number silly one, but you will likely be assigned 666 "tattooed" on your fore head or hand if you are still here when that time comes, lol.
Maybe it's not a tattoo. Maybe it's an RFID tag or something...

I'd think the devil is smarter than the whole tattoo theory.

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. if the individual is gay, always lies and never showers, no it would not be bigoted. It would be insensitive but truthful ..
Whether something is true doesnt mean it cant be bigoted if that truth is being used as an unrelated slur. why would it be insensitive to say you a filthy gay liar then if I believed it to be true that you were dirty and dishonest? You dont find it bigoted to include gay as part of a litany of insults as cleary it wasnt needed as a descriptor and is being made synonymous with insults? What position on ethics isnt subject to sacrifice to keep the group wagons circling? and how can you ever accuse anybody of bigotry ever then if they honestly feel you being gay makes you anything else they link to it? This is just sad

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
Depends. If you continue to do things like break your word and give silly excuses for why you cant source a quote you got wrong and play the victim while insulting others as is your history it probably will be you

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Have you seen the HBO mini series called John Adams?
It's pretty good.
Hey, Tide!! Lookin' cute!:-)

Did u watch hobbit?

I didn't like it that much but i kept thinking they r gonna make a trilogy and i'm still gonna have to watch it!

Watching it I realized i don't understand lord of the rings. What the bloody hell does the ring actually do?

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
We're working on civil debate.

I think it's coming along.

Now, lie to me you sweet smelling homosexual.

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Skombolis wrote:
Obviously it would be how the labels are used and whether they are being used to seperate and cause harm. If you want to draw a semantic line between "unfairly predjudicial" and "bigotry" because it allows you to maintain Ians is not bigoted so be it.
I didn't draw that line, Skom. This language existed before I was born.
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I know what calling someone a "filthy gay liar" is or a "filthy Christian liar" or so on.. What is bigotry if not unfairly predjudicial insults based on characteristics?
It would be unfairly prejudicial to say that all Christians are liars. It would be prejudicial (perhaps fair, perhaps not) to say that Christians are more likely to lie about certain things than people with other ideologies. The distinction between fair and unfair depends on the details of the expression.

Bigotry would be saying that all Christians lie, and so deserve some ill treatment because of it. That might include hunting down Christians and killing them, or promoting that activity, or suggesting that laws be made to oppress Christians.

You need to ask IANS a series of questions if you really want to know if he is a bigot or not.

Does he think all Christians are liars?

Does he hate all Christians?

Does he think Christians are less deserving of human rights because they are Christian?

What you shouldn't do is ask him, then reject his answers because you just can't accept that he's telling the truth. Don't bother doing that.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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How many do you think there are?
And what lie are they living (if that's possible)?
The lie that they r not gay? I don't know, i'm having a guess!

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Have you seen the HBO mini series called John Adams?
It's pretty good.
.. yep, enjoyed it ..

.. just finished GAMES OF THRONES, Season #2. You were right - awesome ..

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
Or i could just point to someone who claims to be gay claiming that telling someone they are a "filthy gay liar" isnt bigoted because it defends a friend and let that speak for itself. Because someone claiming to be gay saying using "gay" in that usage isnt bigoted because it defends a friend definitely speaks for itselff

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Mrs Redneck's been tryin to teach me to dance for nearly 10 years.
To no avail.
Maybe I can just watch you two dance. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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River Tam wrote:
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I've already given an example of when I was a filthy gay liar.
Some would argue that I'm not gay but lesbian. I don't distinguish between the two words.
.. more impeccable logic ..

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Mrs Redneck's been tryin to teach me to dance for nearly 10 years.
To no avail.
Maybe I can just watch you two dance. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Clementia wrote:
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The lie that they r not gay? I don't know, i'm having a guess!
Lying that you're not gay and living a lie are different things.

I think Tide is talking about possible gay folks that are living straight lives to hide their gayness.

*shrugs*

That's be pretty damn hard. There's no way in hell I could pretend to be gay. There's no way I'd live with, marry and have sex with a dude for any reason.

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iPhone won't let me view it...

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. more impeccable logic ..
Apples and oranges. She isnt identifying herself as gay or a lesbian as an insult. I am sure she viewed what was said to her as one based in part on her orientation that has nothing to do with her integrity

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Skombolis wrote:
That was exactly the argument you were making, that if it is true someone is gay, then somehow that changes whether it should be considered bigotry.
"You filthy gay liar."

Backing up for clarification, the statement above is not bigoted. The language is not bigoted. Adding context, as much as you want, will never make that statement bigoted. Adding context may allow you to demonstrate that the person who said it was a bigot. Adding context may allow you to demonstrate whether the addition of "gay" is just insensitive, or prejudicial (fair or not).

Now do you understand my actual argument?
Skombolis wrote:
You need the analogies as you keep demanding context and content outside the actual context as well.
No, I'd much rather you drop the analogies. Will you, please?
Skombolis wrote:
But you defined it better in your last post. It isnt bigotry, its just unfairly predjudicial insults!(rollys eyes) And you arent dishonest, you are just truth-impaired. And yes when someone is embarassing themselves when they use semantics to minimize bigotry and then claims they are are against bigotry
I'm not sure what you are talking about now, so I'll just cover what is important.

I suggested that YOU take the position that what IANS said was unfairly prejudicial. I never said I agreed with that position. I said it was tenable.

If you have that debate with IANS, you'll at least be in the conversation.

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River Tam wrote:
Lol, strange dance. It's called River Tam?

hehe. I think that's the first time I felt sorry for Hitler... What's he gonna watch now?

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
How many do you think there are?
And what lie are they living (if that's possible)?
I don't know. I could guess. Would you like a guess?

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Wait, 45,294...someone just came out of the closet.

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