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#514174 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
**POSTS DIRECTED TO TIDE.
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
Depends. If you continue to do things like break your word and give silly excuses for why you cant source a quote you got wrong and play the victim while insulting others as is your history it probably will be you

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#514175 Apr 2, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Have you seen the HBO mini series called John Adams?
It's pretty good.
Hey, Tide!! Lookin' cute!:-)

Did u watch hobbit?

I didn't like it that much but i kept thinking they r gonna make a trilogy and i'm still gonna have to watch it!

Watching it I realized i don't understand lord of the rings. What the bloody hell does the ring actually do?

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#514176 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
**POSTS DIRECTED TO TIDE.
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
We're working on civil debate.

I think it's coming along.

Now, lie to me you sweet smelling homosexual.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

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#514177 Apr 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Obviously it would be how the labels are used and whether they are being used to seperate and cause harm. If you want to draw a semantic line between "unfairly predjudicial" and "bigotry" because it allows you to maintain Ians is not bigoted so be it.
I didn't draw that line, Skom. This language existed before I was born.
Skombolis wrote:
I know what calling someone a "filthy gay liar" is or a "filthy Christian liar" or so on.. What is bigotry if not unfairly predjudicial insults based on characteristics?
It would be unfairly prejudicial to say that all Christians are liars. It would be prejudicial (perhaps fair, perhaps not) to say that Christians are more likely to lie about certain things than people with other ideologies. The distinction between fair and unfair depends on the details of the expression.

Bigotry would be saying that all Christians lie, and so deserve some ill treatment because of it. That might include hunting down Christians and killing them, or promoting that activity, or suggesting that laws be made to oppress Christians.

You need to ask IANS a series of questions if you really want to know if he is a bigot or not.

Does he think all Christians are liars?

Does he hate all Christians?

Does he think Christians are less deserving of human rights because they are Christian?

What you shouldn't do is ask him, then reject his answers because you just can't accept that he's telling the truth. Don't bother doing that.

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#514178 Apr 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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How many do you think there are?
And what lie are they living (if that's possible)?
The lie that they r not gay? I don't know, i'm having a guess!

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

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#514179 Apr 2, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Have you seen the HBO mini series called John Adams?
It's pretty good.
.. yep, enjoyed it ..

.. just finished GAMES OF THRONES, Season #2. You were right - awesome ..

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#514180 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
**POSTS DIRECTED TO TIDE.
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
Or i could just point to someone who claims to be gay claiming that telling someone they are a "filthy gay liar" isnt bigoted because it defends a friend and let that speak for itself. Because someone claiming to be gay saying using "gay" in that usage isnt bigoted because it defends a friend definitely speaks for itselff

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#514181 Apr 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Mrs Redneck's been tryin to teach me to dance for nearly 10 years.
To no avail.
Maybe I can just watch you two dance. ;)

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

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#514182 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I've already given an example of when I was a filthy gay liar.
Some would argue that I'm not gay but lesbian. I don't distinguish between the two words.
.. more impeccable logic ..

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#514183 Apr 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Mrs Redneck's been tryin to teach me to dance for nearly 10 years.
To no avail.
Maybe I can just watch you two dance. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Ditat Deus”

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#514184 Apr 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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The lie that they r not gay? I don't know, i'm having a guess!
Lying that you're not gay and living a lie are different things.

I think Tide is talking about possible gay folks that are living straight lives to hide their gayness.

*shrugs*

That's be pretty damn hard. There's no way in hell I could pretend to be gay. There's no way I'd live with, marry and have sex with a dude for any reason.

“Ditat Deus”

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#514185 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5Nb2BrKhjjAXX
iPhone won't let me view it...

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#514186 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. more impeccable logic ..
Apples and oranges. She isnt identifying herself as gay or a lesbian as an insult. I am sure she viewed what was said to her as one based in part on her orientation that has nothing to do with her integrity

“What's left to defend?”

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#514187 Apr 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
That was exactly the argument you were making, that if it is true someone is gay, then somehow that changes whether it should be considered bigotry.
"You filthy gay liar."

Backing up for clarification, the statement above is not bigoted. The language is not bigoted. Adding context, as much as you want, will never make that statement bigoted. Adding context may allow you to demonstrate that the person who said it was a bigot. Adding context may allow you to demonstrate whether the addition of "gay" is just insensitive, or prejudicial (fair or not).

Now do you understand my actual argument?
Skombolis wrote:
You need the analogies as you keep demanding context and content outside the actual context as well.
No, I'd much rather you drop the analogies. Will you, please?
Skombolis wrote:
But you defined it better in your last post. It isnt bigotry, its just unfairly predjudicial insults!(rollys eyes) And you arent dishonest, you are just truth-impaired. And yes when someone is embarassing themselves when they use semantics to minimize bigotry and then claims they are are against bigotry
I'm not sure what you are talking about now, so I'll just cover what is important.

I suggested that YOU take the position that what IANS said was unfairly prejudicial. I never said I agreed with that position. I said it was tenable.

If you have that debate with IANS, you'll at least be in the conversation.

“Ditat Deus”

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#514188 Apr 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oiD4mTLnngEXX
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Lol, strange dance. It's called River Tam?

hehe. I think that's the first time I felt sorry for Hitler... What's he gonna watch now?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

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#514189 Apr 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
How many do you think there are?
And what lie are they living (if that's possible)?
I don't know. I could guess. Would you like a guess?

45,295

Wait, 45,294...someone just came out of the closet.

“Ditat Deus”

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#514190 Apr 2, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
"You filthy gay liar."
Backing up for clarification, the statement above is not bigoted. The language is not bigoted. Adding context, as much as you want, will never make that statement bigoted. Adding context may allow you to demonstrate that the person who said it was a bigot. Adding context may allow you to demonstrate whether the addition of "gay" is just insensitive, or prejudicial (fair or not).
Now do you understand my actual argument?
Would that be the same as to a straight person, "you filthy straight liar"?

Or to a white man, "you filthy white liar"?

Or to a black man, "you filthy black liar"?

“The eye has it...”

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#514191 Apr 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Really?
1 Corinthians 16:1-2
Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.
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And when Paul met with believers in Troas to worship and celebrate communion, they gathered on the first day of the week:
Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.
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Christian groups that adhere to a Sunday Sabbath feel that the Lord's command was not specifically for the seventh day, but rather, one day out of the seven week days.
By changing the Sabbath to Sunday, or the day the Jesus resurrected, they feel it symbolically represents the acceptance of Jesus Christ.
The 7th day, the Sabbath, is mentioned over 60 times in the NT. Sanctified and made holy, kept by the Jesus!. You know, that deity guy you say you follow and strive to be like.

The 1st day is mentioned about..6 times? It was something done - in addition to - the Sabbath, but never a requirement, never changed.

But, go ahead and follow what some "feel" they decided they'd change.

No skin off my ass.

The 10 Commandments are the same for you as they are for the Jew.

I'm just pointing out the actual and specific reality of your religious mythology, and that is the literal and specific "Sabbath" - the 7th day - was placed in its position, long before there was ever a Jew, or Christian, according to the myth.

Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws (Genesis 26:5).

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#514192 Apr 2, 2013
Tide....so now the game is whether Ians is truly a bigot and will answer a plethera of questions poving so knowing which way to answer if he wants to avoid that stigma or is he just a guy who has repeatedly expressed bigoted views but isnt a bigot?The semantic exscuses being sought to explain away the obvious is fun and all but Im gonna have to pass

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

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#514193 Apr 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
**POSTS DIRECTED TO TIDE.
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.. sorry Skom, Tide's logic is impeccable ..
.. do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Who's next ??..
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Depends. If you continue to do things like break your word and give silly excuses for why you cant source a quote you got wrong and play the victim while insulting others as is your history it probably will be you
.. the quote was correct. You crossed too many lines and I refused to play your silly game. In your mind, I became a liar ..

.. martyr? When I refused to respond to your posts, I was playing the passive-aggressive victim game ..

.. no somewhat sane, regular poster took exception to my statement. That's exactly what I wrote, but, in your mind that's not what I posted ..

.. somewhere in between all this, you decided I'm a bigot ..

.. last, you changed focus so I will ask again. Do you realize you have now called Tide dishonest, unethical and void of integrity? Do you realize how insulting your posts have become ??..

.. we're done. Again. As usual, you may have the closing argument ..

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