“Jesus is coming soon”

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#508390 Mar 23, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Hi Lawest :)
Good morning JLU, how're you?

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#508391 Mar 23, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Thank you for sharing Brother...
I just don't understand all the nasties... they are not so in my life now, outside of topix...
I appreciate you explaining.
I also don't understand all the sexual talk in here - a Jesus, WSJLM site - where some things have been too loud and course.
Thank you again.
Take care and enjoy your week-end coming up. We are past noon now in Saturday.
God Bless until we meet.
You're welcome Irrira, it is the nature of the beast, and the adversarial spirit that simply want to display it's nastiness and oppositional ways against all things Godly.

Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

But we'll be separate from them one day in every way possible.

Since: Dec 12

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#508392 Mar 23, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>Good morning JLU, how're you?
I'm ok. Now...

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#508393 Mar 23, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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I'm ok. Now...
Glad to hear that.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508394 Mar 23, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
I could try to get those audits for you if you like :)
Sure, Juice, but keep the following in mind:

I'm not an accountant, and have limited time and skill for assessing audits, so I don't want to be snowed with a slew of links like Riverside Redneck did - links that I have to analyze myself.

Please show me any audits that you can find that support the contention that churches do a significant amount of work for the needy, especially American churches, not just some audit that you found but have neither read nor understood. As you know, the American church is my principle interest, it having been tamed in most of the rest of the developed West.

If you can provide it, I'd like to see data from several churches with efficiency numbers that rival secular charities such as the Red Cross, and government charities such as FEMA and WIC. If the Christian church can't keep up with such agencies, what use are they to the taxpayer?

The implication from Riverside Redneck - and he is far from alone - was that the churches do a significant amount of good for the needy, and thus are an asset the the community and should be valued, and possibly even supported by taxpayers.

And keep in mind that even if you do show us such an audit, all you are showing is that at least one congregation isn't misrepresenting its usefulness. To understand what value the church provides considered collectively, we really need random audits of churches, not one or two audits hand selected by fervent believers from among the small fraction of churches honest and confident enough to commission audits and put them on the Internet for the world to see.

Since: Dec 12

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#508395 Mar 23, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, Juice, but keep the following in mind:

I'm not an accountant, and have limited time and skill for assessing audits, so I don't want to be snowed with a slew of links like Riverside Redneck did - links that I have to analyze myself.

Please show me any audits that you can find that support the contention that churches do a significant amount of work for the needy, especially American churches, not just some audit that you found but have neither read nor understood. As you know, the American church is my principle interest, it having been tamed in most of the rest of the developed West.

If you can provide it, I'd like to see data from several churches with efficiency numbers that rival secular charities such as the Red Cross, and government charities such as FEMA and WIC. If the Christian church can't keep up with such agencies, what use are they to the taxpayer?

The implication from Riverside Redneck - and he is far from alone - was that the churches do a significant amount of good for the needy, and thus are an asset the the community and should be valued, and possibly even supported by taxpayers.

And keep in mind that even if you do show us such an audit, all you are showing is that at least one congregation isn't misrepresenting its usefulness. To understand what value the church provides considered collectively, we really need random audits of churches, not one or two audits hand selected by fervent believers from among the small fraction of churches honest and confident enough to commission audits and put them on the Internet for the world to see.
Lol! I have no response to that.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508396 Mar 23, 2013
River Tam wrote:
My parents are medical doctors so I think I might be too but like your grand daughter, I'm not sure yet. We have some time to figure it out, right?
Oh boy! I hope you know that you are welcome to discuss whatever I might be able to help you with there. I was happy to get out as soon as I could but that's because my generation was subjected to a series of indignities that probably won't be relevant to you. We saw them welch on the implied deal. When I chose medicine, I chose to dedicate myself to study and service - to stay current on everything relevant to my practice, and to be available at all hours of day and night for telephone calls and even ER and ICU visits. I gave up my life from the late seventies until the early eighties

In exchange, we expected autonomy, respect,authority, and to be well payed like those that had come before us for much of a century. What we bristled about was the loss of much of all of those, and in its place, to be saddled with more regulatory burden, having to beg HMO "executives" named Heather and Kylie for an X-ray, increasing liability for having to share decision making with Kylie, and being grouped with nurse practitioners and physician assistants as "providers." For that, I'm not taking middle of the night phone calls. Call Kylie, but not after nine on school nights.

OK, so I'm a little cynical. But that doesn't apply to you. There's a new deal - the one I described. If you opt for that, you might be satisfied if they actually let you have it.

Seriously, after a forty minutes on hold, I had to beg some brain dead telephone liaison for some pathetic HMO for approval for a cervical MRI - the neck - for a man, and Kylie got indignant with me for wasting HER time because even she knows that men don't have cervices. True story. I think that I decided to retire after that call.

But hell, if that's the world of medicine when you enter, you might be content with that.

Nevertheless, I recommended that my daughters consider veterinary medicine when their time came. No insurance. No government to speak of. No HMOs. And no Kylie.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#508397 Mar 23, 2013
Look at this dude at the one minute mark in this video: http://espn.go.com/video/clip... Another Dennis Rodman....sort of...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508398 Mar 23, 2013
River Tam wrote:
I'm raising a female Asian eyebrow.
You didn't mention that you were a mother. I believe that Scaritual has a son that is into female Asian eyebrows.

"You-oo-oo my brow-eyed girl"

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508399 Mar 23, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Or I'll read because I like you
:-)
Thanks. I like you too.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508400 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That was only 2 churches from a search that I spent a whole minute on...
Thanks. They supported my suspicions, not your claim-
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You were unable to produce data to demonstrate that even one congregation in the United States spent over 7% of its funds on charity for the needy.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I didn't look for that. You asked about seeing a church audit, I showed you.
LOL. Did you think that I just wanted to see financial reports for no reason. I didn't claim or imply that church audits didn't exist on the Internet, nor even that I wanted to see such things. I assumed that self-selected congregations brave enough to publish their data would be shown to be doing good work. What was most revealing was that those hand picked examples didn't do that.

You tried. Thanks. But you helped make my case, not yours.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Don't get all weird (er) on me and conclude what "churches in the US" do based on the audits of 2 churches.
That's not a firm conclusion yet, just a working hypothesis, but one that is now strengthened considerably by your inability to produce even a single audit contradicting it. Can you find me even one church that returns over seventy percent of its collections to the needy? How about fifty percent? How about thirty percent? So far,we haven't seen one over seven percent.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
They are of value to their respective communities.
I doubt it.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I'm not gonna waste my time trying to convinced a brainwashed person like you that churches vary. YOu've made up your mind.
Why would you? I assumed that churches vary, which is why I thought that audits of churches selected randomly would look worse than self-selected ones - or so I used to think.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
"The Church", remember? You think they're all alike.
Where did you get that? As I indicated earlier, this stuff is epidemic with the faithful - changing what was said to something else just be reading and retelling it. I seem to deal with it continually, and on multiple fronts at once.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#508401 Mar 23, 2013
G_O_O_D

M_O_R_N_I_N_G.....

We write our own destiny;
we become what we do.

~ Soong May-ling
(Madame Chiang Kai-Shek)

Thought for the day

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#508402 Mar 23, 2013
Today's Prayer

Dear God, Truly blessed are the feet of those who share the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I pray for every Christian, and every Christian leader, who shares your love and gift of life with others. I pray for protection and blessing upon those lives. I pray that you will give each of us the messages that you want us to speak and nudge us through your Holy Spirit to speak at the right times and the right places. Through your power, may the world know that you are God and through our ministries, may you be glorified, souls saved, and Christians united in strength and love. In the Savior's name I pray, amen.

Prime time with God

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#508403 Mar 23, 2013
Encouraging WOrds.....

God blesses those who are merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

Matthew 5:7

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#508404 Mar 23, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Hey EP2
I'm 19. I'll be 20 on May 21st. I'm excited about not being a teenager any more and I'm also a little bit scared about not being a teenager.
I weighed 6 pounds 9 ounces. Black hair. Brown eyes. I'm Chinese but I was born in South Korea:)
I go to college. I have lived in China but I don't right now. My parents are medical doctors so I think I might be too but like your grand daughter, I'm not sure yet. We have some time to figure it out, right?
Hey RT.....

That would be great if you got into the Medical field also....But you are right.....You have your whole life ahead of you to make the decision. Are you parents happy practicing here in the USA? China and Korea have socilized Medicine...Don't they? And do you think it would work here?

Nice talking to you.....

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#508405 Mar 23, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Maybe she talked your baby's ear almost off.:) Though I did not come from the Hills of Kentucky, the area of Canada where I was born and raised had people which would in a lot of ways be considered by outsiders as much similar to the hillbillies of Kentucky, except of course we spoke proper English.:)
Well...Grandma wasn't a hillwilliam...She was brought up in a very sheltered home. There were alot of teachers in her family. She kept track of Politics and knew everyone....:-)

Did they say "Ehh"....and "aboot" (instead of about)...:-)

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#508406 Mar 23, 2013
Got to get going....

Will check back later....

:-P
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#508407 Mar 23, 2013
@Serah

Come on Serah your proflie pic is just goofy. You better should kept your real pic.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508409 Mar 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. yes, there are different definitions for the soul, mine was in a mystical or religious context ..
.. in Descartes' philosophy, the pineal gland is the seat of the soul and, even today, the gland remains intriguing in its own right and is studied scientifically. Is it a phylogenic relic, a vestige of a dorsal third eye to the spiritual world or an endocrine organ ??..
THE JOURNAL OF PINEAL RESEARCH
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.111... (ISSN)1600-079X/issues
.. when you request evidence of a deity or soul, believers are unable to form a logical argument. It would be nice if the religious had their ducks in a row and were able to point to scientific evidence of the possibility of a soul - things like OBE's, ESP, NDE's, the pineal gland and much more. Then there would be a challenging debate ..
.. without knowledge, Christians on this thread have no logical or adequate rebuttals to your arguments ..
The pineal has glandular function, but that is not unique in the nervous system. The pituitary is also part of the brain.

I think that Descartes was impressed by the pineal being unpaired. Most brain structures are paired. Check out this picture, which is the dorsal brain - the back of the neck side - with both the cerebellum and cerebrum removed. It shows the centralized, unpaired pineal at "1".

Note the right and left superior and inferior colliculi just inferior to the pineal. They are paired. The pineal might easily have been paired, but isn't. No other functioning cluster of neurons on this illustration appears unpaired, just some named creases and angles.

https://anatomia.wum.edu.pl :444/atlas/image_04be.htm

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#508410 Mar 23, 2013
Having trouble. The Topix software seems to have separated my link. We'll try again. If it breaks it again, and you want to see this image, please manually repair it:

https://anatomia.wum.edu.pl :444/atlas/image_04be.htm

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