Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#503789 Mar 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Very interesting. I wonder if I have time for that.
In addition to Spanish, this is the kind of thing I'm studying these days:
http://www.bridgehands.com/J/Jordan_2_Notrump...
Why not? What better way to keep the mind supple in retirement?
Did I ever tell you that my wife was an anthropology major?
You would of course be welcome. It was a simple matter to arrange.

:)

Actually, in a few of my classes, some students rationalized that evolution ruled out the Christian pantheon, while other students tried to rationalize it in. I seldom interfere in such discussions - at best, I remind them that in science we have to rely upon evidence based discussions - but I did imagine what you would write :)

No, you never told me about your wife's education background! Wow, nice - kindred spirits :)

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#503790 Mar 15, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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What a load of stinky manure. You are either an accomplished liar or completely without a plot. There is no other option.
O_O ??

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#503791 Mar 15, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Does this mean your apology was not honest?
Not at all. My laughter was due to the fact that I had already apologised. There are many ways to skin a cat.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#503792 Mar 15, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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there is still not open place at Junior High School
Hey, no problem. Like I promised your parents, I'll contact the school and see if we can arrange a spot for you.

Chin up! We'll get you there. You just worry about puberty.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#503793 Mar 15, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I am not saying someone can't have certain experiences without God. I am simply trying to show the gap between those experiences and God isn't that great imo. If someone can be in nature and tap into almost a consciousness of the universe or feel something on a deeper level than normal or can subscribe to certain 'natural laws' that don't have anything to do with science than that is the beginning imo of understanding and believing in a power greater than ourselves. Not to the extent of God but still.
There is no scientific proof of karma or fate but most people believe in some type of it whether they believe in God or not. The point of my reply wasn't to suggest you are missing out or anything along those lines but more was to try to set the stage in a way I felt someone like you might best relate to the idea of God.
When you strip away all the man-made trappings, God is as natural an idea as anything else that governs this universe. There are forces and laws at work that extend beyond man, of that I am certain. And like everything there is a food-chain so-to-speak. God would be at the top as far as a controlling force of the universe
Do I expect you to respond, "hmm, I see now. I do believe in God"? Of course not. You probably never will. But perhaps if you see the concept of God as not such a crazy thing it will help you relate to people who do believe when it comes to matters of faith. That is all I am going for
I understand your point.

But I would be intellectually dishonest to attribute anything to a supernatural being. I just don't believe in the supernatural, that's just the way I am. I think gods, astrology, ghosts, hexes, witches, all that stuff is created by the brain but doesn't exist independently.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#503794 Mar 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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You want gay children to be orphans? That's not very nice.
First there´s no such thing as gay children.

Secondly there are many parents who can´t have own children for some reasons let them adopt children coz every child deserve to have mom + pop like 100% of the ppl here on this thread.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#503795 Mar 15, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I cannot imagine a more pathetic intellect than yours. I cannot imagine a worse deity than yours - anyone who would worship your god should castrate themselves in powerless pathetic worthlessness.
Tri-infection, in simple English: you suck. And you betrayed your homies.
S'up G-money?

Sipping on gin and juice?

Just thought I would make the point that your basic understanding of even (as Mike would call it) the 'God-concept' is lacking even the fundamentals if you base your belief on who God must be on an individual believer. It lacks common sense as that would necessitate doing that in the case of every believer. So who God is would change hundreds of millions of times as you transpose the personality and morals of each individual on God. Its ironic, normally people try to chastise those of faith by claiming they have created God to be who they want him to be or to be like them. And here you are doing it from the outside.

BTW when the bible says God created man in His image it should also be taken into account it says in one verse for man not to cover his face because it was made in the image of God. So that helps clarify what it means when it says image. But even in the other interpretation if someone feels it means characteristically than man as a whole would be the image. I suppose it is easier to dent God if you just find someone who believes you don't like and claim God is just like them. I have a feeling you never do that the other way when it comes to a believer you really like.

Why is that? I have noticed that as a pattern. And I am not just saying with you as I believe engages in blanket stereotyping and bigotry but even people that don't normally. It seems to be human nature to want to make the 'norm' based on a bad example rather than a good one. People quit the faith because they didn't like some people in their church but why didn't the good one inspire them to stay? People don't believe in God in part because they make him to be a mirror-image of a believer they don't like.

Personally I think people normally have their minds made up about a group or God or whatever. And they stereotype based on the worst possible example just to reinforce the opinion in their head. Its the only thing that makes sense. For you to justify your hate of God and Christians you need to think of them all in the same negative terms. It is a rationalization and not grounded in truth but it probably makes it easier to sleep. Most people don't want to be bigoted. Normally the ones that are convince themselves they are for good reasons. I guess I am getting a deeper look into how that thought process works
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#503796 Mar 15, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
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YOUR friend g_o_d is idiot worse from you,
I saw on my eyes bad experience with gays who made sex with male inmate,and after sex they beat them unmerciful, kick their a...under table during dinner to eat food like dogs, they urinate at them,or spew at them
I never had any association with those 2 groups, but among homosexuals exist also large number of criminal monsters and pigs worse from any human explanation
also am never against this sin
sin will Judge God wages for sin id death Rom 6;23
only I don't like if people discuss loud their own sexual deviations,or bed life-THERE IS EACH HUMAN PRIVATE INTIME BUSINESS
but morality doesn't exist among homosexuals and whole depraved by wicked morality mankind
none of them is better or worse?
also sir
you are smart boy,
just stop talking loud about your own sexual orientation-there is nobody business to know who are you?
use your wisdom,knowledge,philosophical thinking and deabte healthy subjects not subjects below human low morality and own intime life
Sodom and Gomorrah

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#503797 Mar 15, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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I wasn't talking to you. Did not call you a 'pseudo scientist' and was not referring to you either. You're right, people do get very confused sometimes....
Yes, I see that. No, you weren't talking to me - you were responding to Dr. Shrink. He called me a pseudoscientist.

Rather than respond to him - no point - I thought I'd just respond to you, since you addressed his post.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#503798 Mar 15, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Damn, you are a fine writer, IANS. Thank you.
Dr Shrink wrote:
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you never meet more smart writters
Yeah, he's good. No doubt about it. Hey...you don't have to kiss his ass. Just chill man, chill.

Bye the book when it comes out - who knows, maybe he'll sign a copy for your parents.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#503800 Mar 15, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Almost anything for you. <blushes>
You sure do leave the door wide open on that one.lol
Almost takes the sport out of caughting the pry.lol

Since: Oct 12

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#503802 Mar 15, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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Not at all. My laughter was due to the fact that I had already apologised. There are many ways to skin a cat.
Hey,I just found a raskel cat.Handsome one too name is god.
You want him for a pet.Watch how you stroke him cause he sure can purr loud.lol.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#503803 Mar 15, 2013
Everyone here was raised by own mom and dad.
If we let gays adopt children that would be like if you free a criminal from the prison. They would abuse the child from the beginning.
We do not negotiate with gays, nor do we make friendship with them.

Since: Mar 09

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#503804 Mar 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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But again, if the future is knowable, then fate exists, and free will is impossible. Let's imagine God did not create fate, but can only see it. You still can't do otherwise. If you look at what you wrote "You cant do something diff..", you yourself seem to grasp this. You can't do anything differently. That means you have no free will. If you aren't omniscient you might not realize you have no free will, but that doesn't mean you aren't still an unknowing slave to fate. Assuming the future is predestined.
But if God, who purportedly created everything, is not responsible for fate, then who is? Did the creator and one who set the universe in motion really have nothing to do with the consequences?
You can't do anything otherwise because you already did it, not because you are locked into doing something

You are looking at time wrong

Just because someone doesn't get to live May 15, 2014 TWO times doesn't mean they don't have free will.

You get to live ONE day ONE time. If someone looks into the future to see what you chose to do that day of course when that day arrives in real time you can't change events that already took place for all practical purposes

Whether you are looking forward in time to May 15, 2014 or looking back in time to May 15, 2014 that day only exists one time. And whatever takes place that day is what takes place. And whatever you decided to do of your own free will that day will be what you chose. You don't get to live the same day two different ways because someone can see the future. Someone seeing the future doesn't give you two cracks at the same day

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#503805 Mar 15, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I understand your point.
But I would be intellectually dishonest to attribute anything to a supernatural being. I just don't believe in the supernatural, that's just the way I am. I think gods, astrology, ghosts, hexes, witches, all that stuff is created by the brain but doesn't exist independently.
It's nice you still write him.

Hey, did you see this:



:)

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#503806 Mar 15, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I see that. No, you weren't talking to me - you were responding to Dr. Shrink. He called me a pseudoscientist.

Rather than respond to him - no point - I thought I'd just respond to you, since you addressed his post.
Fair enough.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#503807 Mar 15, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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You sure do leave the door wide open on that one.lol
Almost takes the sport out of caughting the pry.lol
C'mon, I gotta leave a litle mystery. Don't I ?

Since: Mar 09

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#503808 Mar 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Read it again, Dimwit. I made no such claim.
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Not first hand. They wrote about the legend or myth of Jesus.
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That's a different question.
Furthermore, I've already answered that for you repeatedly. If you want to see it again, find anybody else that also wants to know, have them ask for you, and I'll link that individual to one of hundreds of copies of the same answer, the last one dated February 9th on this very thread and addressed to you, you hopeless Dimwit.
Please link it

I have seen you evade answering and not provide any actual proof to support your claim that Jesus doesn't exist

So yes, I would like to see how you claim you provided as an 'answer'
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#503809 Mar 15, 2013
The plan of the homosexual agenda is to infiltrate gay people everywhere with the gain to recruit more straight ppl to their ranks.

Since: Mar 09

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#503810 Mar 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I don't know. Why be with a Christian at all?
You don't know the answer to why you run to Christians for help?

I do, it is because you are so needy and co-dependent that you will run for help even from people you don't like because that is preferable to being your own man

Why be a Christian? Because I believe Jesus Christ is God

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