Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#501689 Mar 10, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
I have not figured out why it is so upsetting to atheist and non-believers, that there are Christians,(followers of Jesus), that we believe in God, and that we believe in everlasting life, just have never understood that they try to say to us ,'There is no God', what difference does it make to them-- To prove us WRONG or what?(which they cannot prove!)
There has not been any in here, that I see, PUSHING this belief on anyone. It is the title of this thread, and yes we will talk about Jesus.
Do you know, why it is so upsetting what we believe?
I also haven't figured out why Christian – the supposed to be 'love thy neighbour' example – can be so crude, loud, and offensive.

Looks like what you give you get back.
I could only imagine the most upsetting value of the Christian/Atheist exchange of is simply that.

If we met them in the street – or as the good Samaritan aid – would be the better way to approach, to be put into practise, rather than pushing anything beyond injury.

Ja... WSJLM? I don't believe he could if my pride was bigger than my belief.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501690 Mar 10, 2013
This is Doctor REALITY of the United States of America. If you've never invited the Saviour into your life,into your heart,He's waiting to hear from you...RIGHT NOW. Goodnight to all in every nation:
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Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#501691 Mar 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>They are Scriptures that Chris has written.....
Only those who have been through family issues will understand the Scriptures, but I can assure you, not all who go to Church are GODly. And not all who do not attend Church are unGODly!!
I agree with you.

All I'm saying is that efforts should always be made to preserve family harmony and avoid dysfunction. We should do everything possible to promote family warmth, and to avoid discord and tension in our close relationships.

This requires sensitivity to others. They may not agree with your religious views, so it may be preferable to avoid bringing them up. The same goes for political views--why risk a tiff, or resentment from those you care for? Why not instead focus on areas of agreement, or at least those that don't provoke disagreement?

We lose a part of our lives when we lose family members.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501693 Mar 10, 2013
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Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501694 Mar 10, 2013
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501695 Mar 10, 2013
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501696 Mar 10, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
I also haven't figured out why Christian – the supposed to be 'love thy neighbour' example – can be so crude, loud, and offensive.
Looks like what you give you get back.
I could only imagine the most upsetting value of the Christian/Atheist exchange of is simply that.
If we met them in the street – or as the good Samaritan aid – would be the better way to approach, to be put into practise, rather than pushing anything beyond injury.
Ja... WSJLM? I don't believe he could if my pride was bigger than my belief.
Ree Ree. Wut up?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#501697 Mar 10, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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your god has never existed, it is, one supposes, difficult to die from non-existence
You're not very bright, are you?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#501698 Mar 10, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I agree with you.
All I'm saying is that efforts should always be made to preserve family harmony and avoid dysfunction. We should do everything possible to promote family warmth, and to avoid discord and tension in our close relationships.
This requires sensitivity to others. They may not agree with your religious views, so it may be preferable to avoid bringing them up. The same goes for political views--why risk a tiff, or resentment from those you care for? Why not instead focus on areas of agreement, or at least those that don't provoke disagreement?
We lose a part of our lives when we lose family members.
I agree ~ but can still understand family issues, sadly, through experience :(

I know some who go to Church week after week, and yet their inside is a turmoil of something I can't quite understand, and it is obvious they either do not really believe in GOD or they think they can fool HIM! But, I am sure you know of this if for no other reason than reading what the religious have done to protect their own religion!!
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#501699 Mar 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I can only assume it is because they question what do we have that they cannot grasp? Otherwise I have no idea why those without Faith would want to be in here demanding that their reasons are absolute - especially when they 'brag' about their own intelligence v the intelligence of other posters. Never did have much time for braggarts :O)
Agree--

They can not believe that FAITH, can actually be the secret.
I dunno, It just might sound Mystifying to them , and they want to be able find a cure, haaha! like scientist
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501700 Mar 10, 2013

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#501701 Mar 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>It could almost be the whole life of one ~ from the cutting of the umbilical cord to giving up the ghost and the Soul moving in one direction while the body moves back to the roots of the earth?
Seems to be leading up the one's death...?
Or even the possibly of NDE

'Until'... it is severed'?

Ecclesiastes 12
1 Remember your Creator
in the days of your youth,
before the days of trouble come
and the years approach when you will say,
“I find no pleasure in them”—

2 before the sun and the light
and the moon and the stars grow dark,
and the clouds return after the rain;

3 when the keepers of the house tremble,
and the strong men stoop,
when the grinders cease because they are few,
and those looking through the windows grow dim;

4 when the doors to the street are closed
and the sound of grinding fades;
when people rise up at the sound of birds,
but all their songs grow faint;

5 when people are afraid of heights
and of dangers in the streets;
when the almond tree blossoms
and the grasshopper drags itself along
and desire no longer is stirred.

>>> Then people go to their eternal home
and mourners go about the streets.

6 Remember him—before the silver cord is severed,
and the golden bowl is broken... etc
****

I felt I understood this with my own + didn't HAVE to be NDE, but OBE also..

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#501702 Mar 10, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
No you got the right one, sounds only --- I was just telling you some more info- since you said bears were similar to humans, LOL
haha..... I was just sort of joking about the evolution theory that we are all related to the first organism that sprung into being, complete with DNA :)

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#501703 Mar 10, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Ree Ree. Wut up?
Every time I answer you - and send nice music +++- you are gone, or don't reply.
So I ask you now...
"What's up'?

You don't seem to check one another for and answer as some try to?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#501704 Mar 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I agree ~ but can still understand family issues, sadly, through experience :(
I know some who go to Church week after week, and yet their inside is a turmoil of something I can't quite understand, and it is obvious they either do not really believe in GOD or they think they can fool HIM! But, I am sure you know of this if for no other reason than reading what the religious have done to protect their own religion!!
My only point is that just as blood is thicker than water, so should it be thicker than religion.

Family comes first.

Annie would agree.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#501705 Mar 10, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree--
They can not believe that FAITH, can actually be the secret.
I dunno, It just might sound Mystifying to them , and they want to be able find a cure, haaha! like scientist
I am a scientist SP... and also have Faith!
Not all scientists don't believe???

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#501706 Mar 10, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I can't help but wonder Chris...have you tried contacting her? How much of a role did you play in this family break-up?
It is sad...I am sorry that you have for now lost your sister.
I am familiar with those verses...I am not saying that you did but could prophecy be fulfilled with the help of self-fulfilling prophecy?
So...do you believe that believers and non-believers can be friends? Can they put their differences aside long enough to share what they have in common?
Would you like your relationship back with your sister? What would she have to do in order for the two of you to reunite?
Sure. In fact we did have a good visit last fall when we went north. My point is from my pov we do try to keep things flowing. One thing I left out was when they were here was also when my wifes brother took a turn for the worst. He died about a week latter so they might have come over, its hard to say. But they did have close to a week here before all of that happened and made no effort. I would say my living for Christ has everything to do with it and her husband hates people of faith. That also has much to do with it. I would like a better relationship but don't think it will happen unless she becomes a Christian. Wife and I have been where they are and will not go back. Who knows what the future holds. One thing I've learned is you never know...
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#501707 Mar 10, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
Every time I answer you - and send nice music +++- you are gone, or don't reply.
So I ask you now...
"What's up'?
You don't seem to check one another for and answer as some try to?
Hi,Ree Ree....So send me some music before I start studying. Everything o.k. over there??

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#501708 Mar 10, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to be leading up the one's death...?
Or even the possibly of NDE
'Until'... it is severed'?
Ecclesiastes 12
1 Remember your Creator
in the days of your youth,
before the days of trouble come
and the years approach when you will say,
“I find no pleasure in them”—
2 before the sun and the light
and the moon and the stars grow dark,
and the clouds return after the rain;
3 when the keepers of the house tremble,
and the strong men stoop,
when the grinders cease because they are few,
and those looking through the windows grow dim;
4 when the doors to the street are closed
and the sound of grinding fades;
when people rise up at the sound of birds,
but all their songs grow faint;
5 when people are afraid of heights
and of dangers in the streets;
when the almond tree blossoms
and the grasshopper drags itself along
and desire no longer is stirred.
>>> Then people go to their eternal home
and mourners go about the streets.
6 Remember him—before the silver cord is severed,
and the golden bowl is broken... etc
****
I felt I understood this with my own + didn't HAVE to be NDE, but OBE also..
Yes ~ perhaps the overall message is to remember HIM before it is too late? NDE's certainly have an impact on those affected, as do OBE's, although OBE's are often sought, as such, by those 'in the know' where as the NDE can happen to anyone, regardless of their spiritual beliefs :)
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#501709 Mar 10, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
I also haven't figured out why Christian – the supposed to be 'love thy neighbour' example – can be so crude, loud, and offensive.
Looks like what you give you get back.
I could only imagine the most upsetting value of the Christian/Atheist exchange of is simply that.
If we met them in the street – or as the good Samaritan aid – would be the better way to approach, to be put into practise, rather than pushing anything beyond injury.
Ja... WSJLM? I don't believe he could if my pride was bigger than my belief.
Yes Mam,--The good Samaritan , doesn't stop and ask 'are you Christian or an atheist? He just helps you. and I am sure there are Atheist, that don't ask that question either, just help his fellow man. That is what it is all about.

Still, all it takes for changing , is simply believeing Jesus died for our sins, and ask Him into out hearts. He will come in.

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