Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#500565 Mar 8, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I like to imagine all the people living in peace, instead of in pieces.
Yes, Mr. Don Quijote de la Mancha.

To reach the unreachable star.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#500566 Mar 8, 2013
@scaritual

Before I reply to your post, I feel it's necessary that I expound on a prior comment I made, if I may and if you don't mind.

First, I said, "Another verse that many seem to ignore is when Peter quoted Psalm 16:10 in regards to the death of our anointed Savior. Acts 2:27 says,'Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.' Even our anointed Savior didn't go to heaven when he died!"

Now, to prove the above quote and assertion, John 20:17 says, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father."

QUESTION: If people die and return to "God," living and conscious in the spirit-realm (where "God" resides), then why was our anointed Savior, the only-begotten Son of "God," exempt?

QUESTION: If our anointed Savior had returned to "God," living and conscious, then why would he say that he had "not yet ascended to" his Father?
scaritual wrote:
Yeah, I'm always intrigued by what you pointed out, that those of the Abrahamic faiths would consider an NDE even possible.
But, you know...
Not a slight towards anyone in particular, but those beliefs range far and wide. It's possible ¼-½ of what people profess isn't found in the bible at all.
And that's exactly the reason why, even though I'm a believer, I decided to separate myself from Christendom. I separated from Christendom, but not the bible.

KRS-One of Boogie Down Productions (BDP)
"Poisonous Products"
Sex and Violence

"What do you believe?'Christianity,' or the teachings of Christ?
Make up your mind. They're not the same thing."

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#500567 Mar 8, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>A former Christian was just religious, and never a Jesus Follower.
Your Christian friend was only part of a religion.
The numbers of Christians in China may not give proof they Deity exist. But how come you not see that type of Islamic growth in China? how come you not see that type of Hinduism growth in America?
Actually, Hinduism and Islam have to threaten and intimidate they citizens else Christianity in my estimation would easily out surpass those religions.
When you see the pakistani government getting nervous over the growth of Christianity in that deeply ideological islamic country, it really make your enculturation argument seem rather infantile.
But I get why you can't let it go :) I get it.
You sure know a lot of stuff.

Or maybe I should say, you think you know a lot of stuff.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#500568 Mar 8, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>They're here for a reason, SeRaH, and that is to upset the Christians and demean their Faith. It has been suggested that they are here because of certain posters and what they wrote about homosexuality, but in fact, they are here to rubbish GOD and everything that we believe in.
We need to keep on keeping on, and not let them needle us, or upset our applecarts ~ because if we do that, then in effect, they have gotten their hearts desire. I have seen them in another forum, and they are like a flock of sheep, sticking together and following their leader.
Well, we too are like a flock of sheep, following our Leader, except our Leader is a SHEPHERD of the highest degree, and we are HIS fledgling SHEEPLE. I am grateful that you are in here - you have a calming serenity around you that embraces my Soul with a warm loving feeling...... perhaps that is why I feel you are my twin, SeRaH xxx
(((*_*)))
Amen to that--good post.

Good evening , and hope your night and DAY , is going good for you--just dropping by for a little while.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#500569 Mar 8, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>A former Christian was just religious, and never a Jesus Follower.
Your Christian friend was only part of a religion.
The numbers of Christians in China may not give proof they Deity exist. But how come you not see that type of Islamic growth in China? how come you not see that type of Hinduism growth in America?
Actually, Hinduism and Islam have to threaten and intimidate they citizens else Christianity in my estimation would easily out surpass those religions.
When you see the pakistani government getting nervous over the growth of Christianity in that deeply ideological islamic country, it really make your enculturation argument seem rather infantile.
But I get why you can't let it go :) I get it.
There are many millions more Muslims in China than there are Christians. Collectively, they comprise about 5 percent of the population.
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#500570 Mar 8, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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So why the hatred of education? Why do you have a problem with people learning?
Checked back in and saw this.

I have no problem with education HFY. What I do have a problem with is someone acting like a jerk to others when they don’t agree with what they want and make fun of them and what they want. Then they complain and call foul if anyone else does it to them. That includes believers and non-believers. I don’t like someone who feels superior to others and uses their superiority (real or not) to try and put others down. It is mental bulling.

HFN

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#500571 Mar 8, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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When your body ends, you die. The 'I' part of 'you' requires that body to function. You're a whole being, body and brain. Science most certainly does not claim that the 'I' part of you is going to survive your body. Sorry.
Don't know where you're getting your false information about the state of science, but you're incorrect.
No lady, you are not only wrong, but woefully behind the times. Your science is outdated, come into the 21st Century.

Dr Sam Parnia, MD.
An assistant professor of pulmonary and critical care medicine and the director of resuscitation research in the Department of Medicine at the State University of NY in Stony Brook. He has his medical degree from the University of London. He is a specialist in pulmonary medicine and critical care obtained at the University of Southsampton in the UK and Weill Cornell Medical Center in the U.S. He also has a Ph.d in Cell Biology from the Uni.of Southhampton in the UK.

All his and hundreds of other Scientists involved in research into the psyche or soul being a separate entity, you can find in his latest book:[Erasing Death]

Just a quick observation. Neuroscientist Sir John Eccles, A nobel Prize winner, agreed with Dr Parnia and many more scientist that
[The human psyche or soul is a separate entity from the brain and body and believes that when you die, the psyche or soul continues...]

You can research the book for yourself. But I would respectfully like a genuine effort to answer the questions in this writing from earlier:
[[[

Since you the science buff on the billboard, I want to present this to you.

We will go into names, research and institutions later.

But now there are scientific evidence, that the mind and psyche of a person, what we know as the soul, is a separate and distinct entity from the brain.

What science says they have evidence of, is that when a person dies, and medical death really means Cardiac Arrest. Because when the heart stops, the brain cease to function in all capacity after that.
So NDE's or near death experiences are NOT hallucinations, but that is the soul in its own entity existing by itself.

This is all scientifically proven.

So let me ask you this as an atheist.

Does that evidence not render your belief. Dead? Because atheists always think when the body die, the person don't exist anymore.
SCIENCE is now saying that not true. Religion always knew that, but science saying it, is a game changer don't you think?

What you think that do to Atheism? has Science now effectively Killed Atheism? What do you think?

Will you remain an Atheist in view of this scientific discovery?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#500572 Mar 8, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Well said.
Humans tend to look more for the few differences than the millions of similarities between ourselves and others.
Yes ~ like the Whales we are Spiritually linked, and while some are hurting, we are all hurting, it is just that not all are aware of it :)

***Deadly Impacts of Sonar

Many of these beached whales have suffered physical trauma, including bleeding around the brain, ears and other tissues and large bubbles in their organs.

These symptoms are akin to a severe case of "the bends" -- the illness that can kill scuba divers who surface quickly from deep water. Scientists believe that the mid-frequency sonar blasts may drive certain whales to change their dive patterns in ways their bodies cannot handle, causing debilitating and even fatal injuries.

Stranded whales are only the most visible symptom of a problem affecting much larger numbers of marine life. Naval sonar has been shown to disrupt feeding and other vital behavior and to cause a wide range of species to panic and flee. Scientists are concerned about the cumulative effect of all of these impacts on marine animals.

Even the Navy estimates that increased sonar training will significantly harm marine mammals more than 10 million times during the next five years off the U.S. coast alone.

http://www.nrdc.org/wildlife/marine/sonar.asp ***

You might wonder why I have posted this link ~ but it is just to support that although they are aware they are doing damage, they don't really care enough to stop. Progress cannot be halted, even if it is useless.

Some feel that the rate of suicide, self harming, anorexia and eating disorders, along with many other health issues, are not increasing, and yet others believe it is. Regardless, when some of us are unhappy and suffering, so are others, and like the domino effect, there are results.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#500573 Mar 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yes, Mr. Don Quijote de la Mancha.
To reach the unreachable star.
I'm the one who tilts toward windmills.

That's only because one of my legs is still growing and the other one is pretty much static.

We're gonna need a bigger leg, Cap'n.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#500574 Mar 8, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
(...)
Actually, Hinduism and Islam have to threaten and intimidate they citizens else Christianity in my estimation would easily out surpass those religions.
When you see the pakistani government getting nervous over the growth of Christianity in that deeply ideological islamic country, it really make your enculturation argument seem rather infantile.
But I get why you can't let it go :) I get it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/953200....
http://www.christianaggression.org/item_displ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberat...
http://www.christianaggression.org/item_displ...

Riiiight...

You know, I get that Christians are getting killed and Muslims are getting killed and Hindus are getting killed and Buddhists are getting killed and just add more religions and they're all getting killed by members of another religion.

Quit killing each other because you think your god is better than the other persons god.

It's freekin ridiculous.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#500575 Mar 8, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Thanks for the heads up on internet security?
I don't do any banking online or pay any bills online etc...
Thanks for the concern.
I'm good.
I glad you are!
Nothing like an intellect to know the difference.
>>>BigSmile<< < 2U2

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#500576 Mar 8, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen to that--good post.
Good evening , and hope your night and DAY , is going good for you--just dropping by for a little while.
Cheers and greetings, Simply Put, and I too am dropping in and out for short bursts as I have been told to keep off the computer for long periods until I get over this headachy thing. I hope to see your words again soon :)
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#500577 Mar 8, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
>>>Serah<<<
Did I post you, as still have it on paper!
Hello there to you PW, I think a lot of posts get lost in the twilight zone, lol.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#500578 Mar 8, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
>>>Serah<<<
Did I post you, as still have it on paper!
I'm not sure Sister :)

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#500579 Mar 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You sure know a lot of stuff.
Or maybe I should say, you think you know a lot of stuff.
Is not how much you know that matter writer, its how much of what you know, can you put to use and apply wisdom, and make it applicable to living a good life.

[Knowledge without wisdom is a load of books on the back of an ass]
-- Japanese Proverb

Cue the Atheist and the Secular Humanist. They fit that Japanese proverb to perfection.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#500580 Mar 8, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for sharing...... a wonderful contribution AJ :)
We know what you think about Christians, in general, and somehow you always find postings to share with us, hoping to make us feel better I guess.
Well sadly, your inspiration fails many times, and your postings reflect an attitude that somehow, I don't think you recognise. The woe is me, poor mother of a homosexual son wears thin...... and so do these sort of postings.
Why didn't I write something positive to you instead of what I have written? In my eyes, as least, this is an honest response to a typical posting, and believe me, I am expecting some sort of "I told you so" posting, as you ram it down our throats how un Christian I am being.
Well, I think JESUS would have eventually said something similar; if you don't have something nice to say, then try not saying it.
How about something more like "Thank GOD I am alive today ~ I can breathe in this marvelous air, see the marvelous animals, listen to the marvelous birds and enjoy the marvelous sky - and hope that you can all do the same"?
We have known each other a long time AJ, and know each others faults, and I am not throwing down a gauntlet as such, just asking you to lay off and ease up a bit.... Cheers, Serah
Oh dear God.
What a disgusting post you have written here , Serah..

I have felt a putrid spirit brewing
amongst a few of you self righteous believers here..
You should be ashamed of what you write here as a supposed christian
woman.--but you won't be..You believe your words to be
what Christ would say to Annie.

I believe you to be so terribly mistaken.

And to think you can tell Annie what she should be thankful for?
lol..There has got to be a disconnect with you and reality?

You are not a nice person at heart..
There's just no way you are.- You must be a fake-
you seem to be pompus and full of selfrighteous bullsh*t....

And by the way- if you and Lawlest were here when I found this
little thread on topix- I prolly never would of stayed.
There wasn't your/ this kind of spirit here back then.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#500581 Mar 8, 2013
simplyput wrote:
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wow, I can not believe my eyes in reading this post. You are actually trying to make this little lady Granny, feel bad about FORGIVING ,'Lawlest on something that happened a while back??
You are more 'heartless, than what I thought.
It appears that Lawlest and OSG are very good friends and they are both in to letting 'by gones, be by-gones! and FORGIVNG each other.
Then you cut OSG down by saying 'Is this the kind of friendships you want and is this the kind of humanity to acceptable to you.
You sound very much like the ole ' serpent , when he beguiled Eve.
lol..
Come on- simply put, you don't even recall you once posted
as a woman..Too funny.

And the "little lady Granny" comment..
Well- you mustn't know OSG very well, now do you?
hahaha.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#500582 Mar 8, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Hey BT
I haven't leaned yet to use the 'LOL" expression - and just did!- meaning naturally as many folk do.
The Brother Sister Factor can be... and this is how my people think and act.
Even I don't like to hear the other terms. I think they are degrading of others who just might understand things even the learned heads haven't learned yet!
They even ask me "do they have 'dignity'?" referring to the west/European world. That says a lot, Ja?
Good 2CU
YES.
G2CU2
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#500583 Mar 8, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>They're here for a reason, SeRaH, and that is to upset the Christians and demean their Faith. It has been suggested that they are here because of certain posters and what they wrote about homosexuality, but in fact, they are here to rubbish GOD and everything that we believe in.
We need to keep on keeping on, and not let them needle us, or upset our applecarts ~ because if we do that, then in effect, they have gotten their hearts desire. I have seen them in another forum, and they are like a flock of sheep, sticking together and following their leader.
Well, we too are like a flock of sheep, following our Leader, except our Leader is a SHEPHERD of the highest degree, and we are HIS fledgling SHEEPLE. I am grateful that you are in here - you have a calming serenity around you that embraces my Soul with a warm loving feeling...... perhaps that is why I feel you are my twin, SeRaH xxx
(((*_*)))
Thank you SeRaH. I’m not always calm and serene, LOL, especially when there is bulling going on. I have fussed at both sides about that. I have, sense I was a kid, spoken out because of or against bulling even to friends. Sometimes I can ignore but not always.

I am glad I have a calming effect on you. At least I‘m good for something. LOL Sorry when I loose my calm/cool my Twin.
SeRaH

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#500584 Mar 8, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
>>>Senacus<< <
Think of you SO often warrior Brother!
But you miss my posts...
Kumusta Ka!

Not this time(Big Smiles)

Irrira, pray all is well with you and All! I don't dwell here in "Squatter Town" much anymore, stop by the blog if you get a chance:)

Going to snack on a bit of kimche before bed, you take care and have a great weekend...

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