Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#500201 Mar 8, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>As far as traditional marriage is concerned... Marital unfaithfulness breaks the wedding vow.
In my case, when I got back from one of my sea duties... my first wife had left (I had a stepdaughter) and I found out that she got pregnant with another guy's child. Fast-forward... she had the child and the guy that she was committing adultery with got reconciled to his own wife. So anyways, we were separated during that time. About a year before our divorce she got pregnant with some other man's child.
Simple as that... after our divorce she wanted to get back together. Nah.
Guess you're a poor judge of character?

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#500202 Mar 8, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Where's my damn sammich, woman?
Or...Chicken Pot Pie??

That is no way to ask for a sammich....Disreguard the Damn with a Please on the front....

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#500203 Mar 8, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Adultery yes... abandonment, meh.
If the person is a unBeliever and departs... and absolutely does not want to be reconciled to their "Believing" Spouse then that is also a grounds to be released from marriage according to I Cor 7.
But two Believers being married and not getting along? The wife has the scriptural right to separate but to remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband... and the husband must not divorce his wife.
I kind of see your reasons as weak. You have strange ideas on what to base a marriage on.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#500204 Mar 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
So, because of that, you stopped loving her?
Was it an incremental thing or did you stop loving her after the last child was born?
Yeah. I have the same problem with his stated reasons for divorce as you do - it's weak and he's being a rules lawyer. "the Bible says I can divorce her 'cause she cheated. It's all her fault! And the Bible says so!"

Sounds like a marriage based on rules and not on love, understanding and economics.

:)

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#500205 Mar 8, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Try again, you can do it.
Tsk...Tsk

You have to be a good Model for people to see Rascal...

:-)

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#500206 Mar 8, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I tried initially to reconcile... broke my heart. I would have taken the 2nd child in also. She didn't want that initially so I let her go (went through the various grief stages, of course). After that episode.. I moved on and found out later that she was pregnant with the other child. Fast-forward... she wanted me but she didn't want the Christ in me. History repeats itself.
I still pray for her often even though it has been 1/4 of a century later.
Now, I am aware that you are trying to trip me up, question-wise... but all you are going to get are honest replies.
So she couldn't take that you were a Christian?

And you needed her to be just like you?

Now I can understand the divorce.

Anyways, it's always congratulations when you get divorced - so, congratulations!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#500207 Mar 8, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, extensively question away, if you don't play games I won't either.
Traditional gender roles have zero to do with loyalty and commitment.
Ok. We get married, make promises and VOW to one another, you know what that means right? I'm guessing from your posts that you do.
I left my siblings, a promising career and everything I knew to marry this man and move to a strange place where I knew no one, fair enough, I loved him and would have followed him anywhere and done anything for him, I wasn't religious at the time but I meant my vows, with all my heart and I was not the marrying kind either. To me, marriage meant forever, no matter what.
He's a Soldier.
Year 1 of marriage, I get pregnant. He cheats whilst away on an 'Exercise', which I find out later on was no Exercise, just a nice getaway for two, for a month, with our savings.
I'm shattered, I forgive him and choose to just believe his lies and we have a son.
Year 2 of marriage. We decide I should not return to work and be a SAHM. He didn't like me working and I'm too protective of my kids to let strangers spend more time with them than me. I go to work for my last week as he gets a few weeks leave and can care for our son. My last day turns out to be on the 3rd day instead of the 5th. I get home and find him on the couch with one of his mate's wives.[Insert graphic 'pornea' here]. Our son was asleep.
There's some drama, the woman ends up on her bare butt in front of my house and has to go find a phone, he follows her with her things, gets her home safe and comes back to some more of my fury.
I'm angry, then shattered then a little numb. I forgive him and again decide to believe his promises and his lies. Six months later he confesses that woman he was seeing is pregnant. I accepted and loved his little daughter when he had access, not her fault.
Year 3. We have another son and when the baby is 6 months old, my 'husband' decides that he doesn't love me anymore and I should move out of his army house so the other woman he loves can move in. By this stage we had moved twice and are in WA, on the other side of the country. All this follows me hardly ever seeing him because he was 'working' long hours and had his new woman on his lap, in front of me and many others, the day before, at an Anzac day BBQ.
That separation lasted 1 year, I moved back to be close to his family, studied, became a bit less shattered and went on with life. Did not even so much as flirt with another man. His affair breaks down, he comes back and wins me over (I still loved him). I choose to believe him and forgive him.
Year 4. We have our third son. I put on more weight than usual and have some complications throughout the pregnancy. He starts to go out again, coming back drunk, hardly ever around. One of his sisters starts to spend time with me and helps me when she can. By the time my baby son is 10 months old, I've become a Christian which brought me peace, which is a good thing as otherwise I might have killed him that time. The affair had been going on for a year. I found out and had to move out with my three boys. My boys had to stay with their Grandparents for 11 weeks because I had a miscarriage, found out about the affair a week later and was moved out by a week after that. Then, a few days later I found out his mistress was pregnant. I had a complete nervous breakdown.
That was in April 2009. I have been alone and celibate this whole time and have just been enjoying my boys and studying again. His relationship with his mistress is over and he's had 2 others since and moved himself to a different state, barely even calls his sons. He has not tried to divorce me nor I him but I am numb.
Bring it.
Wow. Congratulations on the divorce. You are describing a man who will not change and pity the woman with him.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#500208 Mar 8, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, say what you want...
What I do agree with is that if people do not take marriage 100% seriously, for the commitment, life long commitment of loyalty and love that it's supposed to be, they shouldn't bother in the first place.
When you get married, Juicy, one of two things will happen.

You will die or your will get divorced.

There is no other option.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#500209 Mar 8, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Reminds me of Peter Pan.....I won't grow up....I won't grow up...
***Warning.....OLD things displayed***
:-)
http://youtu.be/Vy3hB8ERBvI
Peter Pan was played by a woman named Mary Martin
Wow.

Second star on the right and on till morning!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#500210 Mar 8, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Or...Chicken Pot Pie??
That is no way to ask for a sammich....Disreguard the Damn with a Please on the front....
He's a sexist. It's his way.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#500211 Mar 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church of the Holy Catcher has an opening for an anthropologist.
Wages are low, but the benefits and perks are magnificent.
Epigenetic factors will favor you with a competitive advantage.
Epigenetic factors huh.....

:-)

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#500212 Mar 8, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
<gets off the trailer sofa, walks to steps to the small fridge>
<opens fridge, careful to not let the door fall of its hinges>
<wipes coffee grinds off the syran wrap covering the sammich>
<walks outside, to large fridge sitting in shade and plugged into a parking stall outlet>
<opens fridge with key, selects a Bud from the many, many beer>
<locks fridge>
<walks around to the sunny part of the trailer, where the chairs are set up under the faded green striped umbrella>
Here you go, hon, just like you like it.
You remind me so much of my Grandaughter....Are you around 25 HFY?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#500213 Mar 8, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men/women do nothing.
May I recommend prayer?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#500214 Mar 8, 2013
The water is so crystal clear that one can't fish in the day because the fish see the net.One has to fish at night particular in the dark of the moon.
From the human side.You see going by the human rules of life but when you walk in faith nothing is impossible with God.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#500216 Mar 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Isn't that what Truman thought right before he blew up Hiroshima & Nagasaki , killing 180,000 people?
How would an "Aussie" know American History?

Don't know what Truman said...I just know his campaign saying was "Give em Hell...Harry"

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#500217 Mar 8, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
***President Truman told his diary on July 25, 1945, that he had ordered the bomb used.
Emphasis has been added to highlight Truman's apparent belief that he had ordered the bomb dropped on a "purely military" target, so that "military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children."
We have discovered the most terrible bomb in the history of the world. It may be the fire destruction prophesied in the Euphrates Valley Era, after Noah and his fabulous Ark.
Anyway we "think" we have found the way to cause a disintegration of the atom. An experiment in the New Mexico desert was startling - to put it mildly. Thirteen pounds of the explosive caused the complete disintegration of a steel tower 60 feet high, created a crater 6 feet deep and 1,200 feet in diameter, knocked over a steel tower 1/2 mile away and knocked men down 10,000 yards away. The explosion was visible for more than 200 miles and audible for 40 miles and more.
This weapon is to be used against Japan between now and August 10th. I have told the Sec. of War, Mr. Stimson, to use it so that military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children. Even if the Japs are savages, ruthless, merciless and fanatic, we as the leader of the world for the common welfare cannot drop that terrible bomb on the old capital or the new.
He and I are in accord. The target will be a purely military one and we will issue a warning statement asking the Japs to surrender and save lives. I'm sure they will not do that, but we will have given them the chance. It is certainly a good thing for the world that Hitler's crowd or Stalin's did not discover this atomic bomb. It seems to be the most terrible thing ever discovered, but it can be made the most useful...
http://www.dannen.com/decision/hst-jl25.html ***
Not sure...... but I guess he felt like crap when he realised that his great weapon killed and maimed so many innocent people, but he set out to end the war, and indeed, he accomplished that.
:-)

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#500218 Mar 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
When you get married, Juicy, one of two things will happen.
You will die or your will get divorced.
There is no other option.
Well... one hopes to live, love and laugh with one another for a good long while before death.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#500219 Mar 8, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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May I recommend prayer?
You certainly may! Is your heart softening? That's very exciting!

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#500220 Mar 8, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Ahh... you get my point! Well done :)
the point is the christian claim --- that the book is inspired by the god ---- yet the god knows not, that the world is a sphere, very frail, ignorant god, madam.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#500221 Mar 8, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
<quoted text>
Well... one hopes to live, love and laugh with one another for a good long while before death.
When you get married....

One of two things happen.

There is no other option.

Just saying.

Personally, I would go with the one the doesn't involve death.

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