Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Sora

San Diego, CA

#499258 Mar 6, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Sora,
Pleased to read your post. I agree with what you are saying. We are all humans and nobody should ever say hurtful things in the Name of God or Christianity. Right or wrong, Nothing or nobody should be judged and instead they should be shown Love. It seems that some Christians forget what they themselves do and that had it Not been for Jesus, We all would still be lost souls. Some seem to take a few verses that speak of something that will condemn others while ignoring the majority of verses that tell us that nobody is any better than the other. I will continue to spread the scriptures of Love, peace and hope toward all mankind and let God judge us all in the end. Thank you for apologizing on behalf of the Christians, I stand with you on this. You have a loving heart.
Bonjour Madame Walker, indeed this is so. God judges the hearts of people, and we should not bbut there are many that do. Many in our faith and those of other faiths as well. In regards to the verses it is nothing more than cherry-picking it is shameful to do. Seraphine and I spoke with an agnostic not too long ago, he needed help and so we offered it with no questions asked. Our Christian faith to us is something that one does not pick up and put off, we are meant to be like Christ. Look at the entymology of the word :) what we find sad is that we do not see more Christians apologizing for their behavior, it takes two to tango I believe the saying goes but I am merely giving my opinion, treat others as you yourself would wish to be treated. Thank you for your understanding Madame Walker. In regards to apologies we give them often because we are saddened by the history of the Christian faith. There is so much good in it and we prefer to focus on that. We feel that a true Christian has no need to say it, they show it through their actions and behaviors toward others and by the spiritual fruits they cultivate. However, this again is my opinion.
Sora

San Diego, CA

#499259 Mar 6, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I suppose we will.
So nice to read your words.
Bonjour Madame Le_Le we just got back from our physical, all is well.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#499260 Mar 6, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
Heterosexual Christians are being unbiblical by using the clobber passages as justification for applying absolute standards of morality to homosexual "sins" that they themselves are "not tempted to commit", while at the same time accepting for themselves a standard of relative morality for those sins listed in the clobber passages that they DO routinely commit.
How is that bibical? I am not a homosexual but my sins are in the SAME list, IN the SAME verse as homosexuality. WOE to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices -- mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law -- JUSTICE, MERCY and FAITHFULNESS. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.--Matthew 23:22-
Can you find yourself in these verses? If someone says NO they are a LIAR and the truth is NOT in them..
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strifes, emulations, wraths, rivalries, dissensions, sects?????
I see Hatred. STRIFES. Wrath and especially Slanderers on just about EVERY post..I Do NOT condone Any sin but I am honest enough to say that I am listed in the above list also.
So Are YOU. We are to reach out in Love for Love covers a multitude of Sin.
Remember the Shabbat Yom to keep it holy. Should I make that the New clobber agenda or should I effectively put words to proper purpose and run down the list of the other Commands?

What say you?

I am no judge here, but you should know Ms. Walker, that we human beings, by our words and our deeds judge ourselves.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#499261 Mar 6, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
Wow. You guys can't even deal with Believers being happy without whining about it. That's a bit sad.
misery loves company.

they miserable so they want everyone else to be miserable along with them.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#499262 Mar 6, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
Wow. You guys can't even deal with Believers being happy without whining about it. That's a bit sad.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Maybe you could point to what you're speaking of.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#499263 Mar 6, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>That what you write say perfectly I think about the OSAS movement:
[ What I said is that only people who try to obey the Law can be given Grace, but not the Lawless]
YES writer, that totally right. A person can't go say they saved and pursuing sin, practicing sin, live a lifestyle of sin.
A person must be trying to evade sin, abhor sin, run from sin, then they have grace. You put it a right way.
That Annie writer have a son that is a homosexual. I no know what her philosophy is. Sometime I see her write I think she is a Jesus Follower. other times I think she just religious, I not know.
But she worried for her son. She no want him to get treated bad because he a homosexual. As a mother, I no blame how she try and stand up for her son.
But as people of Faith/Christians/Jesus Followers, we have to call sin sin. We have to though search we heart to know what attitude we have when we call sin sin, Is it to just beat up the sinner?, or to let them know they can't feel comfortable in sin.
I know I walk fine line with that, but I see you try very hard to separate the sinner from the sin, and that good thing.
Thank you brother, but my effort is absent credit among many in this thread. Believe me, if there were an easier way to single out the devil himself separate and apart from the people he influences to indulge in sin, then I would, but it's super difficult to throw evil over the cliff when the person hugs it so tightly in love and commitment.

I do feel for Annie. I understand how she would be swayed on the homosexual agenda because her son has gone over to the other side. Most mothers would trade the entire world for their children, even their very own lives. This is noble and great love, yet it is also the easy way out from not trying to disappoint your child (children).

There are many out there who have friends and family members who are gay, and it doesn't make it easy on them either. Yet I have seen mothers also shield their mudering, rapist sons from the law and I have seen fathers bring a machette to school to harm the teacher all because the teacher punished the son that gave another student a black eye after also stealing the child's text book. Well, it is also a test for us, to see if we will give up salvation and turn our backs on the right just to protect those of us who are unwilling to change our ways.

Shalom Trifecta 1.

Andrew (CS).

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#499267 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
it seems to me
You have not own descency and be enough inteligent to get away from here all day rantings and posting same s...
what a hell going on with you f.....empty sick brains,provocking and insulting in return day by day same few christian and freacking immoral homosexuals atheists like you???
WHERE IS YOUR HONOR, OWN RESPECT,DESCENCY AND RESPECT OTHER BELIEFS?
Words fits you;
2 peter 2; 17
these are wells without water,clouds that are carried with a tempest;to whom the mist of darkness is reserved forewer
18/for whom they speak great sweeling words of vanity;
THEY ALLURE TO THE THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THE FLEASH(homsexxualism)
THROUGH MUCH VENTOMNESS THOSE THAT WERE CLEAN ESCAPED FROM THEM WHO LIVE IN ERROR?
SESH ABOMINABLE LOST STINKING SOCIETY OF TROLLS
I wonder what he was like before the meds?

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#499268 Mar 6, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Nitpicking? Why do so few of you Christians
Yep. You don't listen. No point in saying anything more to you.
Lost In Transition

Big Stone Gap, VA

#499270 Mar 6, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. It doesn't take courage to remain a virgin.
It takes not having a sex drive, ignoring your desires and watching time slip by, not exploring your relationships fully because you're afraid of human contact, religious fervor shared by your significant other (and not shared by your religious leaders), or embodying guilt to an amazing degree.
You forgot lots of red fingernail polish and a good imagination.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#499271 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
keep Gal 5;22-24 in practice in your life,
and not worry about upseting of someone
clean your filthy mouth full of breakfast sperm, practice holy life according to Gal 5;22-24
and get a f....away from my face,what makes me upset or not there is not your filthy immoral wicked business of demented homsexual insulting God since internet exist
f.....you and your abominable advices?
Clean *my* filthy mouth you say?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#499275 Mar 6, 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/tsa-rules-knives-draw-f... This was just REAL stupid on the part of the TSA. There's just no other way to explain it.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#499277 Mar 6, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember the Shabbat Yom to keep it holy. Should I make that the New clobber agenda or should I effectively put words to proper purpose and run down the list of the other Commands?
What say you?
I am no judge here, but you should know Ms. Walker, that we human beings, by our words and our deeds judge ourselves.
Shalom.
Andrew (CS).
NO..By your WORDS you Judge everyone EXCEPT Yourself CS. Why should I care how many commands you want to run down? I Believe in the Gospel Of GRACE...remember? The Laws are for the unrighteous. The Law was given to show what sin is. Gal.3:24 tells me that ..So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. It done its job and lead me to Christ. And then Gal.3:25 tells me ..Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. When you are in Christ, The only Law I am under is to LOVE one another and that fulfills ALL the Law. Run your list of Laws until it leads you to Jesus Christ CS. Then you will be a mature Christian that No longer needs the milk of the word and you can move on to maturity IN Christ..
Lost In Transition

Big Stone Gap, VA

#499278 Mar 6, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
You strain out a gnat but swallowed a camel.--Matthew 23:22-
Sounds like a lack of dietary fiber.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#499279 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
dr Shrink is worry about clients like you and their meds?not you as mentaly and spiritualy sick wicked poor miserable earthly thing(look like human)
always take them 3 times a day, and pray to be not more stupid as you are now?
understood foreign english?
OR REPEAT TO YOU 12 MORE TIMES TO YOUR SHRANKEN LITTLE PEANUT BRAIN
.

Make it 13 times.

<dr Shrink> "arf! ARF! arf!"

Easy...easy... good dr Shrink.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#499280 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
take hose from your back yard, deep inside of cow manure bucket ,open emty hole(mouth)release pressure and flush all abominable sperm from your hole without of natural teeths(mouth)
THAT IS WHAT I SAY
if you don't understand foreign english
next time I repeat 12 more times,or will speak to you punk"moon unicorn language"
You are so adorably crazy, Shrink. But please, do seek help, OK?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#499281 Mar 6, 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/arkansas-ban-abortion-1... Yeah,that's right,America,that's MY homestate lookin' out for the Lord's unborn babies!!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#499282 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
take hose from your back yard, deep inside of cow manure bucket ,open emty hole(mouth)release pressure and flush all abominable sperm from your hole without of natural teeths(mouth)
THAT IS WHAT I SAY
if you don't understand foreign english
next time I repeat 12 more times,or will speak to you punk"moon unicorn language"
"moon unicorn language" hahahaa Thanks for the belly laugh.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#499283 Mar 6, 2013
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope( Grace) did; by the which we draw near unto God.(Heb. 7:19)

Dont you notice that the law is Opposite of drawing near to God?

Christ came to fulfill the Law in two ways

1) Christ, through his sinless life came to fulfill, or satisfy the righteous demands of the Law on Man's behalf. Christ came to fulfill and provide for Man what the Law demanded and promised but could not provide.

2) Christ, through His incarnation came to fulfill, or declare Himself the embodiment of the types and shadows of the Law as revealed in the Messianic prophecies concerning Him. He was in His person the fulfillment of each prophetic type, shadow, and promise of the coming Messiah (Jn. 4:25-26).

Christ came to fulfill and to provide righteousness for us. Christ became the Just and the Justifier of all those who believe in Him:

1) As the Just, Jesus is the only one who lived and met the standard of righteousness that the Law required.

2) As the Justifier, Jesus is the only one through whom righteousness can be imputed to those who put their trust in him (Acts 3:14; Rom. 3:26).

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#499284 Mar 6, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no virtue in being a virgin on your wedding night. It's like waiting until after you are married to learn to cook.
Crap. I was and thankful that God has blessed me much since that time. Make no mistake, it would have been quite easy to go the worlds way and have sex, almost did. Do you know that most of your postings prove the very word of God true that you deny?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#499285 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
my heart have nothing to do with you and vomits flows from your heart,
and don't send any "thank you" if someone doesn't asked you to do this?
JUST SHUT UP MOUTHS ABOUT QUIRLS,AND FIND SOMETHING BENEFICIAL TO POSTS,
JUST SHUT UP OK?
My heart doesn't exist, for atheistis mind perverts, and spiritualy deadly sick psychopaths?
understood foreign english????
IF NOT I AM ABLE TO REPEAT 12 MORE TIMES?
Your kindness must be due to your faith shrinky...

I can only thank you for sharing a wee bit of that with me.

I now know and have seen what Jesus does in your life...

I am astonished.

I must ask though...are QUIRLS...squirrels with quills?

Not only are you a great spiritual leader shrinky...you are wealth of knowledge also.

Wiktionary says the Quirls (quirle) is the German word for (cooking) beater. Why would you not want me to talk about cooking beaters??? Is it the code name for something that I don't know about?

Quirl is always a great word to know.

Here is a new word for you shrinky dink...

...flibbertigibbet...

Hmmmm

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