Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#499249 Mar 6, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Well put.
It's interesting when people think that because they find life awful or unbearable for whatever reason less than idyllic, it must be that way for all others, too.
It's a projection thing.

My advice on stuff like that is to just ignore it & hope they'll learn someday.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#499250 Mar 6, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
I must be missing something here...IANS claims you claimed he was obsessed. Your post claims that he's obsessed. How exactly is IANS mistaken here?
Thanks.

I loved your post to Adam: http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#499251 Mar 6, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Who is hating though Epi?
I see the Qu's the C-S's the tri-whatever's hating.
All in the name of your God..
Who in your opinion is hating here?
Again- it's not personal what those that don't believe
in Christ believe.. Or it shouldn't be.
God doesn't need our defending.. People need our Love.
Again I ask you- is Christianity really this weak??
Yes, though the question wasn't directed to me, I would say yes in some sense, Christianity is weak. Are we leaders, or forever followers, being swayed and blown to and fro by every wind of doctrine and breath from lips that speak sweat words with Lawless intent?

Aside from all the varying beliefs systems within it ranging from trinitarian, to Jesus only, to OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved), to Jesus being divine to him not being divine, to Law vs Grace throgh Faith only...but aside from all these things, they don't stand on common ground against variances, deviances and evil. Some among the many decide to water down the doctrine to appease others while some add and take away from scripture offering very dubious interpretations.

If I didn't know better Ms. Le, I would think what you're saying is that a blind eye should be turned to evil, pretending they're not there and just give love. Yes, scripture says Love your Enemy, which is True, but did it say you should Love what your enemy does? Does it say you should love a pagan and abstain from teaching him the righteous way that he may be saved?

You should understand this Ms. Le, that teaching what scripture says absent parsing will offend those that do not respect or abide by its precepts. There is hardy a way you can ask a heathen to change without them feeling offended, even if but in secret so you are unawares of their feelings. Yes, Yahweh doesn't need our defending, what needs defending is (a) Why we believe (b) What we believe (c) And honor our hard (Earned in Blood) gift of salvation. He has suffered too much for us just to see us take his words for naught and to make excuses for it.

I am not teaching nor am I advocating violence against them, but when the day they decide to take believers serious is the day when believers stand at one accord. And even with this few in this thread, it is apparent that this won't be possible, so they're allowed to get away with murder, because our linked fence is weak and broken down in certain sections. Then may as well there be no fence, for it the Law judges and shows who stands for the right and those for the wrong, then apparently among believers and no believers alike, there is no respect for the Law.

We should best believe, that even if we sit idly by and do nothing or say nothing, that The Almighty Father will one Great Yom (day) stand for His name, and whether we like it or not, that day when it comes shall not be one of cotton candy and teddy bears.

Counter_Strike: When do people, believers stand up and be counted? When will they say no more to being used as door mats where boots walking in $h!t and p!$$ whipe all over us. When do we value the price that we were baught and paid for.[Earned in Blood: Quo Vadis]

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#499252 Mar 6, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Well put.
It's interesting when people think that because they find life awful or unbearable for whatever reason less than idyllic, it must be that way for all others, too.
Yes.

Just as a drunken person who needs a lamppost to lean on, can't understand how others can walk along the sidewalk without assistance.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#499253 Mar 6, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Is stupidity your first?
Yeah, sure. A ham a-sammich.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#499254 Mar 6, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Yes, though the question wasn't directed to me, I would say yes in some sense, Christianity is weak. Are we leaders, or forever followers, being swayed and blown to and fro by every wind of doctrine and breath from lips that speak sweat words with Lawless intent?
You are forever a follower if you trust in Jesus, and a leader if you do not, and feel the need to usurp God's role.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

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#499255 Mar 6, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Really? So I suppose you would also say if you were married and spend intimate time with another man or woman is also not a moral issue? Your opinion of a particular things is just that, an opinion. It doesn't make it fact. Same sex intimate relations is a moral issue whether you like it or love it. Now we can lay this portion of the conversation to rest. Now I would sincerely love to hear you raise argument about the Topic of this thread. I mean, it is what you're hear for isn't it, to comment on the topic of this thread?
CS.
Your opinion of a particular thing is just that, an opinion.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#499256 Mar 6, 2013
Le_le wrote:
I am beginning to see that this reward is self based- soley
100% based on self love.
This group of believers display their desire to be in Heaven with God.
Their action's and word's are based on their selfish need to be
"safe"..To reap the "benefits" of their militant stance for God
(in the here and now),
in the after life.
They dream of streets of gold, for themselves.
That's quite insightful, Le_Le.

Since: Dec 12

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#499257 Mar 6, 2013
Wow. You guys can't even deal with Believers being happy without whining about it. That's a bit sad.
Sora

San Diego, CA

#499258 Mar 6, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
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Hello Sora,
Pleased to read your post. I agree with what you are saying. We are all humans and nobody should ever say hurtful things in the Name of God or Christianity. Right or wrong, Nothing or nobody should be judged and instead they should be shown Love. It seems that some Christians forget what they themselves do and that had it Not been for Jesus, We all would still be lost souls. Some seem to take a few verses that speak of something that will condemn others while ignoring the majority of verses that tell us that nobody is any better than the other. I will continue to spread the scriptures of Love, peace and hope toward all mankind and let God judge us all in the end. Thank you for apologizing on behalf of the Christians, I stand with you on this. You have a loving heart.
Bonjour Madame Walker, indeed this is so. God judges the hearts of people, and we should not bbut there are many that do. Many in our faith and those of other faiths as well. In regards to the verses it is nothing more than cherry-picking it is shameful to do. Seraphine and I spoke with an agnostic not too long ago, he needed help and so we offered it with no questions asked. Our Christian faith to us is something that one does not pick up and put off, we are meant to be like Christ. Look at the entymology of the word :) what we find sad is that we do not see more Christians apologizing for their behavior, it takes two to tango I believe the saying goes but I am merely giving my opinion, treat others as you yourself would wish to be treated. Thank you for your understanding Madame Walker. In regards to apologies we give them often because we are saddened by the history of the Christian faith. There is so much good in it and we prefer to focus on that. We feel that a true Christian has no need to say it, they show it through their actions and behaviors toward others and by the spiritual fruits they cultivate. However, this again is my opinion.
Sora

San Diego, CA

#499259 Mar 6, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Yes, I suppose we will.
So nice to read your words.
Bonjour Madame Le_Le we just got back from our physical, all is well.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#499260 Mar 6, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
Heterosexual Christians are being unbiblical by using the clobber passages as justification for applying absolute standards of morality to homosexual "sins" that they themselves are "not tempted to commit", while at the same time accepting for themselves a standard of relative morality for those sins listed in the clobber passages that they DO routinely commit.
How is that bibical? I am not a homosexual but my sins are in the SAME list, IN the SAME verse as homosexuality. WOE to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices -- mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law -- JUSTICE, MERCY and FAITHFULNESS. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.--Matthew 23:22-
Can you find yourself in these verses? If someone says NO they are a LIAR and the truth is NOT in them..
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strifes, emulations, wraths, rivalries, dissensions, sects?????
I see Hatred. STRIFES. Wrath and especially Slanderers on just about EVERY post..I Do NOT condone Any sin but I am honest enough to say that I am listed in the above list also.
So Are YOU. We are to reach out in Love for Love covers a multitude of Sin.
Remember the Shabbat Yom to keep it holy. Should I make that the New clobber agenda or should I effectively put words to proper purpose and run down the list of the other Commands?

What say you?

I am no judge here, but you should know Ms. Walker, that we human beings, by our words and our deeds judge ourselves.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#499261 Mar 6, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
Wow. You guys can't even deal with Believers being happy without whining about it. That's a bit sad.
misery loves company.

they miserable so they want everyone else to be miserable along with them.

Since: May 09

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#499262 Mar 6, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
Wow. You guys can't even deal with Believers being happy without whining about it. That's a bit sad.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Maybe you could point to what you're speaking of.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#499263 Mar 6, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>That what you write say perfectly I think about the OSAS movement:
[ What I said is that only people who try to obey the Law can be given Grace, but not the Lawless]
YES writer, that totally right. A person can't go say they saved and pursuing sin, practicing sin, live a lifestyle of sin.
A person must be trying to evade sin, abhor sin, run from sin, then they have grace. You put it a right way.
That Annie writer have a son that is a homosexual. I no know what her philosophy is. Sometime I see her write I think she is a Jesus Follower. other times I think she just religious, I not know.
But she worried for her son. She no want him to get treated bad because he a homosexual. As a mother, I no blame how she try and stand up for her son.
But as people of Faith/Christians/Jesus Followers, we have to call sin sin. We have to though search we heart to know what attitude we have when we call sin sin, Is it to just beat up the sinner?, or to let them know they can't feel comfortable in sin.
I know I walk fine line with that, but I see you try very hard to separate the sinner from the sin, and that good thing.
Thank you brother, but my effort is absent credit among many in this thread. Believe me, if there were an easier way to single out the devil himself separate and apart from the people he influences to indulge in sin, then I would, but it's super difficult to throw evil over the cliff when the person hugs it so tightly in love and commitment.

I do feel for Annie. I understand how she would be swayed on the homosexual agenda because her son has gone over to the other side. Most mothers would trade the entire world for their children, even their very own lives. This is noble and great love, yet it is also the easy way out from not trying to disappoint your child (children).

There are many out there who have friends and family members who are gay, and it doesn't make it easy on them either. Yet I have seen mothers also shield their mudering, rapist sons from the law and I have seen fathers bring a machette to school to harm the teacher all because the teacher punished the son that gave another student a black eye after also stealing the child's text book. Well, it is also a test for us, to see if we will give up salvation and turn our backs on the right just to protect those of us who are unwilling to change our ways.

Shalom Trifecta 1.

Andrew (CS).

Since: May 09

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#499267 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
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it seems to me
You have not own descency and be enough inteligent to get away from here all day rantings and posting same s...
what a hell going on with you f.....empty sick brains,provocking and insulting in return day by day same few christian and freacking immoral homosexuals atheists like you???
WHERE IS YOUR HONOR, OWN RESPECT,DESCENCY AND RESPECT OTHER BELIEFS?
Words fits you;
2 peter 2; 17
these are wells without water,clouds that are carried with a tempest;to whom the mist of darkness is reserved forewer
18/for whom they speak great sweeling words of vanity;
THEY ALLURE TO THE THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THE FLEASH(homsexxualism)
THROUGH MUCH VENTOMNESS THOSE THAT WERE CLEAN ESCAPED FROM THEM WHO LIVE IN ERROR?
SESH ABOMINABLE LOST STINKING SOCIETY OF TROLLS
I wonder what he was like before the meds?

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#499268 Mar 6, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Nitpicking? Why do so few of you Christians
Yep. You don't listen. No point in saying anything more to you.
Lost In Transition

Big Stone Gap, VA

#499270 Mar 6, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Wow. It doesn't take courage to remain a virgin.
It takes not having a sex drive, ignoring your desires and watching time slip by, not exploring your relationships fully because you're afraid of human contact, religious fervor shared by your significant other (and not shared by your religious leaders), or embodying guilt to an amazing degree.
You forgot lots of red fingernail polish and a good imagination.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#499271 Mar 6, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
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keep Gal 5;22-24 in practice in your life,
and not worry about upseting of someone
clean your filthy mouth full of breakfast sperm, practice holy life according to Gal 5;22-24
and get a f....away from my face,what makes me upset or not there is not your filthy immoral wicked business of demented homsexual insulting God since internet exist
f.....you and your abominable advices?
Clean *my* filthy mouth you say?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#499275 Mar 6, 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/tsa-rules-knives-draw-f... This was just REAL stupid on the part of the TSA. There's just no other way to explain it.

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