Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#498829 Mar 5, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I know there are two (conflicting) creation stories in Genesis, but as far as humans being created, the fist version just says "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them." (Genesis 1:27), and then in Genesis 2 it goes into the specifics of Adam and Eve. I don't read that part as conflicting, unless one reads the first as God creating a bunch of (hermaphrodite?) god-imaged humans prior to A & E., which would not make sense as such being are never described as interacting with the descendants of A & E.
Where do you suppose The people came from that cain was afraid if being killed by? Cain took himself a wife after being banned. How did A & E survive upon being evicted from the garden?
Elohim is plural not singular. EL would have been singular yet still incorrect.
Genesis should read-The first one created the gods with the heavens and with the Earth”.
Yahweh is one of these gods, one of the ’Elohim (since the Bible here calls him “Yahweh ’Elohim” in the Hebrew text, and not simply “Yahweh”).

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498830 Mar 5, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>How the heck would anyone know that same sex has been around for 15 million years? Guess work of the greatest kind..... there would be no evidence would there?
Do you know what phylogeny is and how it works?

Phylogeny means "evolutionary relatedness." Humans are great apes, in the great ape clade, the ape clade, the ape+old world monkey (OWM) clade and, going up one more, in the ape+old world monkey+new world monkey clade.

When biological traits and behaviors are shared by many different species in a clade, the most parsimonious answer is that the behavior/biological trait evolved prior to those species - prior to the clade.

Same sex sexual behavior exists in almost all primate species, except in prosimians. Therefore, the behavior evolved after monkeys split from prosimians - roungly 40-50 million years ago.

So I actually gave you a low estimate, based on the ape/OWM split - same sex sexual behavior, in primates, evolved roughly when monkeys evolved, around 40-50 million years ago with their bigger brains and greater behavioral flexibility and abilities to form social bonds.

No, SSSB didn't evolve for any reason you can imagine. I can explain that in detail, if you like.

I'm sorry this is technical, but tough, it's how science works. Please look up the words you aren't familiar with.
*** A team of international researchers has completed a study that suggests we will probably never find a ‘gay gene.' Sexual orientation is not about genetics, say the researchers, it's about epigenetics. This is the process where DNA expression is influenced by any number of external factors in the environment. And in the case of homosexuality, the researchers argue, the environment is the womb itself.
Epigenetic mechanisms can be seen as an added layer of information that clings to our DNA. Epi-marks regulate the expression of genes according to the strength of external cues. Genes are basically the instruction book, while epi-marks direct how those instructions get carried out. For example, they can determine when, where, and how much of a gene gets expressed.
http://io9.com/5967426/scientists-confirm-tha... ***
Seeing as being sexually attracted to the same sex is not normal behavior, there would have to be something wrong somewhere along the lines wouldn't there? At least we know they are studying the issue and trying to work it out.....
First, SSSB is not due to epigenetic factors, regardless of what those researchers claim. They aren't taking into account the phylogenetic information we have and so making stupid presumptions based on the Western cultural division of sexuality into homo/hetero.

Second, you're mistaken if you think same sex sexual behavior is not normal. That's just your cultural bias coming through. It quite clearly is normal for almost all observed primate species, except prosimians (the most primitive ones).

Third, those authors are making the same mistake you are making, which is to inject their cultural biases into their research. That makes their research questionable, to say the least. Western scientists have been studying homosexuals for more than 100 years like that and so far have found nothing - because they don't understand how evolution works and are not using an evolutionary framework in their understanding of behavior.

That's just poor science.
Infinity

State College, PA

#498831 Mar 5, 2013
Anyone home! lol hi!
Infinity

State College, PA

#498832 Mar 5, 2013
Hello! Was wondering If I can join your conversation?
Infinity

State College, PA

#498833 Mar 5, 2013
Why do these posts take so long to show up, aren't we in the electronic fast paced age now?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#498834 Mar 5, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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I didn't want Jesus dead.
I wasn't around when he died.
But BibleGod apparently did:
The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.
-- John 10:17-8
Interesting, huh?
Ya. The Constantine gang is good at that.

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“’…If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God…”
(8:42)

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.’”
(8:44)

Who is he talking about here? >>Yahweh<< Who is merely a tribal god...not an original creator.

Since: Oct 12

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#498835 Mar 5, 2013
In the last hours and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming even now many antichrist have come.This is how we know it is the last hour.They went out from us but they did not really belong to us.For if they had belonged to us they would have remained with us but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

But you have an anointing from the Holy One and all of you know the truth.I do not wrtie to you because you do not know the truth but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.Who is the liar.It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. He denies the Father and the Son.No one who denies the Son has the Father Whoever acknowledges the Son Has the Father also.

See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you.If it does you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.And this is what he promised us even eternal life.

I am writing theses things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.As for you the anointing you received from him remains in you and you do not need anyone to teach you about all things and as that anointing is real not counterfeit just as it has taught you remain in Him.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#498836 Mar 5, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Many people used the same argument in opposition to interracial marriage: The children might be tormented.
Discrimination is never the answer: The tormenters must be educated.
I find this tormenting.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

can you educate them please?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#498837 Mar 5, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Do you know what phylogeny is and how it works?
Phylogeny means "evolutionary relatedness." Humans are great apes, in the great ape clade, the ape clade, the ape+old world monkey (OWM) clade and, going up one more, in the ape+old world monkey+new world monkey clade.
When biological traits and behaviors are shared by many different species in a clade, the most parsimonious answer is that the behavior/biological trait evolved prior to those species - prior to the clade.
Same sex sexual behavior exists in almost all primate species, except in prosimians. Therefore, the behavior evolved after monkeys split from prosimians - roungly 40-50 million years ago.
So I actually gave you a low estimate, based on the ape/OWM split - same sex sexual behavior, in primates, evolved roughly when monkeys evolved, around 40-50 million years ago with their bigger brains and greater behavioral flexibility and abilities to form social bonds.
No, SSSB didn't evolve for any reason you can imagine. I can explain that in detail, if you like.
I'm sorry this is technical, but tough, it's how science works. Please look up the words you aren't familiar with.
<quoted text>
First, SSSB is not due to epigenetic factors, regardless of what those researchers claim. They aren't taking into account the phylogenetic information we have and so making stupid presumptions based on the Western cultural division of sexuality into homo/hetero.
Second, you're mistaken if you think same sex sexual behavior is not normal. That's just your cultural bias coming through. It quite clearly is normal for almost all observed primate species, except prosimians (the most primitive ones).
Third, those authors are making the same mistake you are making, which is to inject their cultural biases into their research. That makes their research questionable, to say the least. Western scientists have been studying homosexuals for more than 100 years like that and so far have found nothing - because they don't understand how evolution works and are not using an evolutionary framework in their understanding of behavior.
That's just poor science.
Yep ~ I agree, poor science at its best

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498838 Mar 5, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Ah, I see. They've been told and that's that. It's funny that a bunch of old virgins can dictate how sex works :)
So the God of the Bible had a different idea?
Yep. Bible God said don't have sex with immediate relatives and certain in-laws. It said it doesn;t like male homosexuals but lesbians were OK.

It said some ambiguous comments about something called adultery and fornication but gave no details. It laso contradicts itself throughout the volumes by giving great things to those involved in incest, rape and (vaguely) male homosexuals.

Bible God would be declard a psychopath and sociopath if it were a human. In fact, no intelligent creature would do more than try to kill it if it were a living creature.

Anyway, the terms adultery and fornication are essentially nonsense words.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498839 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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You may never ever know <smile>
I love a mysterious woman.

“Painters Find Beauty in Life ”

Since: Mar 10

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#498840 Mar 5, 2013
Infinity wrote:
Anyone home! lol hi!
Bonsoir Infinity, welcome! Allow me to introduce myself my name is Seraphine. I hope that we may be friends and learn from oneanother as human beings ought to do. My soulmate Sora would like to say a few words of greeting as well. As time goes by, you shall know more about us without further or do here he is. I would like to say that we are both Francophone I am fron New Orleans and he is originally from Martinique. We have an interesting background.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#498841 Mar 5, 2013
Serah wrote:
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I find this tormenting.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
can you educate them please?
Wow, you're into this sort of thing?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498842 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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Oh you know what it is...
Nope.

It is vague and ambiguous at best a nonsense word in reality.

Is "diddling" a sin but "snogging" OK between two humans ?

Define the conditions and acts which are sinful and which are not.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498843 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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Punch you whilst crying? That thought cheers me up a bit :-)
Maybe it's just as well, I get the feeling some questions are asked with the intent of mockery anyway. I was pretty personal...*shrug*
I was being sincere. I have let distraught friends take out their angst with me a surrogate. Some need to vent in different ways. I am OK with that.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498844 Mar 5, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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So...hey...how about that coffee?
Here, is it hot enough ? Cream or sugar ? <wink>
Sora

San Diego, CA

#498845 Mar 5, 2013
Infinity wrote:
Hello! Was wondering If I can join your conversation?
Bonsoir Infinity, I see Seraphine has made her introduction it seems. My name is Sora and I am honored to make your acquaintance. Please feel free to join, Seraphine and I are always interested in meeting new people.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#498846 Mar 5, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Nope.
It is vague and ambiguous at best a nonsense word in reality.
Is "diddling" a sin but "snogging" OK between two humans ?
Define the conditions and acts which are sinful and which are not.
Diddling definitely has to be a sin.

Just think about it.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#498847 Mar 5, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
In the last hours and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming even now many antichrist have come.This is how we know it is the last hour.They went out from us but they did not really belong to us.For if they had belonged to us they would have remained with us but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
But you have an anointing from the Holy One and all of you know the truth.I do not wrtie to you because you do not know the truth but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.Who is the liar.It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. He denies the Father and the Son.No one who denies the Son has the Father Whoever acknowledges the Son Has the Father also.
See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you.If it does you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.And this is what he promised us even eternal life.
I am writing theses things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.As for you the anointing you received from him remains in you and you do not need anyone to teach you about all things and as that anointing is real not counterfeit just as it has taught you remain in Him.
"Good question. On one of my frequent trips to the ground, I noticed Malloy wore sneakers, for sneaking. My next clue came just yesterday at the museum. We felt slighted by your age bashing and started home. Malloy said,'I'll catch up with you.'[Malloy starts climbing the side of the building] I couldn't quite put my finger on it. There was something strange about the way he walked, much more vertical than usual. And finally, Malloy, unlike most retired people, has the world's largest cubic zirconia on his coffee table." ~ Grampa Simpson

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498848 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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LOL.. my child? That's strangely familiar....hmm...
Lol, ok, you are very welcome in OZ, it's pretty awesome, for one we don't have Wesboro 'Church' or anything like it and Christians don't bother picketing funerals and abortion clinics or gay events, Jesus weeps, what a bunch of losers.
If I lived there, I'd organise a picket to protest their protesting and throw tomatoes at them, then they'd be too busy cleaning their clothes to bother carrying on like that in public, or they'd shoot me, lunatics.
Have you seen Red State? One messed up story.
:-)
My family came here before the USA existed. I am only here by chance. I may leave when I retire. How much does it cost to live in OZ ? I can easliy get citizenship, already checked out.

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