Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498615 Mar 5, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>What gay children? I haven't heard of any but gather it is happening now, seeing as both you and Annie (more or less experts in the field of gaiety) have indicated that there are? I gather the DNA must be showing greater signs of mutation if the symptoms of homosexuality are coming out at a very young age. Or are you referring to older children who are being adopted, notably gay?
Homosexuality and genetic mutation are not linked. That you would think so is disturbing. Same sex sexual behavior has been in the primate clade for at least 15 million years.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498618 Mar 5, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>We might be saddled with the OT, but those of us with a little comprehension understand that the Bible is obviously influenced by the word of man(kind) and interwoven with the word of GOD.
You don't have to pay attention to the OT. You can dump it. It's just mythology - make your personal religion any way that helps you.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498619 Mar 5, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course there are gay children. Did you think gay adults sprang from the ground fully-formed?
What?!? They don't??? My thesis! Oh no!

Since: Oct 10

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#498621 Mar 5, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps Adam means gay couples adopting children? I don't think kids really display gay behavior while they are still toddlers, or young enough to be adopted, but of course, came in on the end of this conversation and could be totally out sync.
You don't have anything against gay couples adopting children, do you?

Since: Sep 12

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#498622 Mar 5, 2013
Most of you "Christians" should be aware that YOU are no better than any other sinner and In FACT, YOU are in some ways WORSE!!!!!!!! You are being Self-Righteous

Question: "What does the Bible say about self-righteousness?"

Answer: The definition of self-righteousness is “confident of one’s own righteousness, especially when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others.” Biblically speaking, self-righteousness, also known as legalism, is the idea that we can somehow generate within ourselves a righteousness that will be acceptable to God (Romans 3:10). Although any serious Christian would recognize the error of this thought, because of our sin nature, it is a constant temptation to all of us to believe we are, or can be, righteous in and of ourselves. In the New Testament, Jesus and the apostle Paul came down particularly hard on those who attempted to live in self-righteousness.

Jesus’ condemnation of self-righteousness was especially harsh in His treatment of the Jewish leadership of the time. Six times in Matthew 23, Jesus condemns the scribes and Pharisees for rigidly adhering to the letter of the law in order to make themselves look better to others. The parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector was specifically told by Jesus to “some who trusted in themselves, that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt" (Luke 18:9-14). The Pharisee assumed his acceptance with God based on his own actions, whereas the tax collector recognized that there was nothing in himself that would cause God to approve of him. Over and over again in the gospels, Jesus clashes with the Pharisees and scribes about true righteousness. At the same time, He spends a great deal of time and energy warning His disciples about the dangers of self-righteousness, making it clear that without Him, they could do nothing (John 15:5).

Continued...

Since: Sep 12

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#498623 Mar 5, 2013
Paul’s treatment of self-righteousness is no less scathing than Jesus’ was. He began his great argument in Romans for the grace of God by condemning the Jews’ self-righteous trust in circumcision (Romans 2:17-24). He follows that up in chapter 10, saying that the Jews tried to gain acceptance with God based on their own righteousness, demonstrating ignorance of the true righteousness of God (Romans 10:3). His conclusion is that Christ is the end of righteousness, not man.

Paul’s letter to the Galatian church also addressed this very issue. These believers were being told that they had to do certain things to be acceptable to God, specifically be circumcised. Paul goes so far as to say that this is another gospel and calls those who advocate it “accursed”(Galatians 1:8-9). More tellingly, he tells his readers that if righteousness could come from their own actions, then Jesus died “for no purpose”(Galatians 2:21), and that righteousness could come “by the law”(Galatians 3:21). Paul’s conclusion about the Galatian believers was that they had been foolish in their attempt to be perfected by the flesh (Galatians 3:1-3).

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#498624 Mar 5, 2013
It would be an understatement to say that every believer is plagued by this attitude. It is in our sin nature to try to do something to merit our salvation. The costly freedom of grace, bought for us by the blood of Jesus with no contribution from us, is difficult for our prideful hearts to understand or appreciate. It is far easier to compare ourselves with one another than it is to recognize that we cannot measure up to the standards of a holy God. However, in Christ we can know true righteousness. In Christ, we can know the forgiveness of sin that comes to us through grace. Because He stood in our place, we benefit from both His sinless life and His sin-bearing death (2 Corinthians 5:21). Because of His sacrifice, we can face our sin and bring it to the cross, rather than try somehow to be good enough for God. Only in the cross can we see the grace that covers all our sin, and defeat the constant tendency to self-righteousness in our hearts.

Stop being so judgemental towards others..Let God deal with the unbelievers. He probably has been trying to but you, self righteous, hypocritical and holier than thou religious nuts are driving unbelievers further and further away. I will pray that you learn to be better fishers of men than what you display on this forum.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#498626 Mar 5, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
Hah ha haaaaa Fart Fart fart
Would you kindly answer this post which I left you dr shrink?

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

Thank you.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#498627 Mar 5, 2013
>>>just arrived<<<
12 noon Wed... Going back in time now for you!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#498629 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you serious? Have you seen this?
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/...
Sure, there's no God and the Bible is a lie....
O_O
You should like this Teddy!
Magnitude 2.5? Do you know how weak that is? I'll bet a passing tractor-trailer generates that much shaking.

These were all today at http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ . The number on the far left of each line is the intensity of the quake. All but one was over 2.5 in intensity:

3.3 33km W of Ester, Alaska 2013-03-05 21:55:58 64.840°N 148.724°W 15.6
4.2 73km SW of Ayia Galini, Greece 2013-03-05 21:42:10 34.609°N 24.145°E 46.4
4.9 127km WNW of Kota Ternate, Indonesia 2013-03-05 20:49:14 1.396°N 126.391°E 21.6
2.7 78km SSW of Redoubt Volcano, Alaska 2013-03-05 20:37:28 59.846°N 153.335°W 133.3
5.3 99km NNE of Nago, Japan 2013-03-05 20:32:44 27.442°N 128.289°E 38.9
2.9 9km SSE of Volcano, Hawaii 2013-03-05 19:49:28 19.341°N 155.218°W 9.2
2.7 17km ENE of Honaunau-Napoopoo, Hawaii 2013-03-05 19:04:32 19.532°N 155.715°W 10.6
4.0 30km N of Nahrin, Afghanistan 2013-03-05 17:59:37 36.333°N 69.194°E 120.3
3.2 69km SE of Punta Cana, Dominican Republic 2013-03-05 17:49:13 18.137°N 67.943°W 94.0
4.2 168km SE of Atka, Alaska 2013-03-05 17:24:01 51.066°N 172.579°W 17.8
2.9 26km N of Road Town, British Virgin Islands 2013-03-05 14:30:12 18.649°N 64.577°W 61.0
3.7 13km ENE of San Rafael del Yuma, Dominican Republic 2013-03-05 13:30:35 18.495°N 68.563°W 177.0
3.0 51km ENE of Cantwell, Alaska 2013-03-05 12:24:54 63.569°N 148.006°W 5.1
4.3 26km WNW of `Alaqahdari-ye Kiran wa Munjan, Afghanistan 2013-03-05 11:57:46 36.154°N 70.526°E 106.0
4.9 157km W of Isangel, Vanuatu 2013-03-05 11:40:18 19.360°S 167.780°E 15.2
4.4 221km SE of Pondaguitan, Philippines 2013-03-05 10:52:44 4.963°N 127.615°E 74.1
2.9 67km SSW of Homer, Alaska 2013-03-05 10:49:13 59.069°N 151.936°W 87.1
4.2 33km SSW of Kute, Indonesia 2013-03-05 10:22:15 9.183°S 116.187°E 61.8
5.2 134km WSW of Druzhina, Russia 2013-03-05 08:33:54 67.665°N 142.470°E 13.6
4.9 94km SSW of Taron, Papua New Guinea 2013-03-05 07:31:06 5.197°S 152.591°E 50.9
5.2 94km SSW of Taron, Papua New Guinea 2013-03-05 06:21:07 5.212°S 152.623°E 11.7
5.4 102km SSW of Taron, Papua New Guinea 2013-03-05 06:06:35 5.255°S 152.555°E 28.2
4.9 102km W of Lata, Solomon Islands 2013-03-05 06:01:32 10.664°S 164.898°E 18.1
2.5 29km NE of Sutton-Alpine, Alaska 2013-03-05 05:33:30 61.951°N 148.406°W 16.3
5.0 100km SSW of Taron, Papua New Guinea 2013-03-05 03:58:34 5.238°S 152.553°E 58.8
3.1 82km S of Unalaska, Alaska 2013-03-05 03:08:31 53.140°N 166.749°W 26.9
4.9 12km S of Pulaupanggung, Indonesia 2013-03-05 02:09:00 5.430°S 104.755°E 21.3
2.7 45km S of Redoubt Volcano, Alaska 2013-03-05 01:35:23 60.079°N 152.760°W 100.0

I'm a native Californian. You need to get up to at least a magnitude 5 for me to take notice.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#498630 Mar 5, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
It would be an understatement to say that every believer is plagued by this attitude. It is in our sin nature to try to do something to merit our salvation. The costly freedom of grace, bought for us by the blood of Jesus with no contribution from us, is difficult for our prideful hearts to understand or appreciate. It is far easier to compare ourselves with one another than it is to recognize that we cannot measure up to the standards of a holy God. However, in Christ we can know true righteousness. In Christ, we can know the forgiveness of sin that comes to us through grace. Because He stood in our place, we benefit from both His sinless life and His sin-bearing death (2 Corinthians 5:21). Because of His sacrifice, we can face our sin and bring it to the cross, rather than try somehow to be good enough for God. Only in the cross can we see the grace that covers all our sin, and defeat the constant tendency to self-righteousness in our hearts.
Stop being so judgemental towards others..Let God deal with the unbelievers. He probably has been trying to but you, self righteous, hypocritical and holier than thou religious nuts are driving unbelievers further and further away. I will pray that you learn to be better fishers of men than what you display on this forum.
You are first on my list of working backwards Grace...
This has been eating you up Sister...
Thanx for posting...
I agree...
God Bless you.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#498631 Mar 5, 2013
Does God condone evil now that Christ has died for our sins? Not a chance! The fact that God condemned His son on the cross because of our sins only makes it more obvious how much He hates it. The real question though might be better asked: How we are able to judge one as better or worse since even we were dead in our sins outside of Christ?

In other words, though we might recognize that it is evil to hurt people, we only become biased judges by comparing one evil as worse than another, for in doing so we have to establish ourselves as right in order to judge the other wrong. But since Christ died for all that means that all were DEAD, and to recognize another according to their sin is to disregard the universal reality demanded by his death. This mentality would have us assume the wrong one needs a better morality (i.e. more like ours) instead of simply needing life! After all, what were we really given in Christ? LIFE. We were DEAD, but have been made ALIVE in Christ.

As far as God's justice goes, realize that there is no higher reality than that which is found in Christ's death! Let God take care of what only God can take care of. And never suppose that He does not care!

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#498633 Mar 5, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Why wouldn't she? Being homosexual is normal. By the way, we didn't practice finding the same gender attractive. My life is not a style.
Is my morality in question?
Ms. Rivers, obviously it would be normal from your perspective, and yes, it is a moral issue. I suppose you did not know this?

CS.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#498635 Mar 5, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>Any of the resident Christians wish to comment on CS's venom?
I have. He just ignores it, probably because I'm female. I don't think he's a Christian, we don't use Shalom and completely ignore Jesus. Ok, maybe some do completely ignore Jesus. CS seems more like an eye for an eye bloke to me.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#498636 Mar 5, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhm...1st century means 0-99. So...did Jesus die in 0 AD or -1 AD?
I'm honestly a bit confused on this point. Is BCE (Before Christian Era) from before Jesus' birth or death? Or do we have a 30 year blank spot?
The medieveal invention begins with the dubious year of Jesus' alleged birth.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#498637 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
CONT...
No words could have, or did. I'm 34 now and 9 years ago, I met Christians, real ones. They're not big talkers but they are so different from anything I ever imagined people could be like. My husband, from whom I have been separated for almost 4 years now, is one of 7 kids in a Christian clan, he joined the Army out of high school and is no longer a Christian, he married an Atheist to rebel and in her curiosity about his gentle, peaceful family, she found God. He did not like this, and got 2 other women pregnant, not sure why he hasn't divorced me or why I haven't divorced him but I am considering it.
As painful as all of this was, God is the best thing that has ever happened to me, I'm Educated in Science, Languages and History, analytical, skeptical and sarcastic. I've done many studies, trying to talk my self out of this irrational faith I found myself developing. I've always despised religion and every evil it represented.
The very fact that I of all people, am now considered a Christian, not a label I chose but I do follow Jesus, is a genuine miracle in itself. I'm madly in love with Jesus and my faith saved me.
I'm content and at peace.
In short, God wanted me and He got me, forever and ever.
<3
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>I don't recall seeing the first part to this but I want to tell you that I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with your husband. Somewhat similar issues with my first wife... while I departed out to sea she departed with a host of men. Wasn't a Christian marriage in the least mind you as I had first met her when I was drunk... and 19 at the time. Some time afterwards I "truly" accepted Christ. I remarried as a Believer and celebrated my 21st anniversary a few days ago. Praise God for your relationship with Jesus.
Thank you both for sharing... I'm sure many will read... every Life tells a story... and not enough take the time to listen.

THE BATTLE BELONGS TO THE LORD
By Jamie Owens-Collins

In heavenly armour we'll enter the land.
The battle belongs to the Lord.
No weapon that's fashioned against us will stand.
The battle belongs to the Lord.

(Chorus)
We sing glory! Honour!
Power and strength to the Lord!
We sing glory! Honour!
Power and strength to the Lord!

When the power of darkness comes in like a flood.
The battle belongs to the Lord.
He's raised up a standard, the power of His blood.
The battle belongs to the Lord!

(Repeat Chorus)

When your enemy presses in hard, do not fear.
The battle belongs to the Lord.
Take courage, my friend, your redemption is near.
The battle belongs to the Lord.

(Repeat Chorus Twice)

Power and strength to the Lord.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#498638 Mar 5, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>Any of the resident Christians wish to comment on CS's venom?
Also, I will not be held accountable for the actions of a complete stranger. My sons yes, anyone else, no. What an odd request. Or are you ordering us in what to write here now?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#498639 Mar 5, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Adam, but pretending that something that you don't like doesn't exist doesn't change reality. Watch, I'll demonstrate:

*Ahem*

"There is no such think as clueless bigots!"

Did you disappear? No? See what I mean?
Hhmmm, one could apply that to you beliefs?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#498641 Mar 5, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>I think it not coincidental that you've only mention the 'Othersiders' aka Free Thinkers.

I'm sorry Ms. Happy, but I must say that your post was quite poor and hypocritical. Those people you mentioned at times show intelligence, but common sense seem to escape them, and when they speak about the bible, the level of information and so call 'critical thinking' they display becomes quite useless.

Thanks for your contribution to the thread Ms. Happy.

CS.
Look catcher, he is trying to be nice. You don't expect miracles from a non existent Deity do you?
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#498642 Mar 5, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
This is her business,not your F.... STUPID ADVICES TO OTHERS.
your IQ is to low to give any spiritual advices,where they have to look
seshhhhh
you are very much stupid to say that psalm,poems,history of israel, Babilonian Empire,Egypt,Asyria, of genealogy of jewish tribes is mythology?
Hi. How do you pay your bills?

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