Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498403 Mar 5, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Yah wanted Jesus dead.
That's quite obvious isn't it?
Now ask yourself why?
How could anyone want Jesus dead? That's like hoping Socrates perished.

Gosh, I really hope against hope Plato died.

Oh, wow! Ice Cream!

Since: Dec 12

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#498404 Mar 5, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Would Jesus burn you?
No way and if anyone tries I hope He turns up...

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#498405 Mar 5, 2013
I've always had nightmares about being burned alive, can we perhaps discuss drowning or being shot? Cheers :-)

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498406 Mar 5, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>No not really.
You write this:
[You're getting confused by my calling America a Christian culture. And you're thinking "but, gosh, Christians are in so many cultures!" And you're ignoring the part where I said "yes, Christians are in so many cultures - and, in each, it's a different kind of Christianity."
Hence you have Mayans sacrificing chickens to God, Polynesians with ancestor worship alongside Christianity, and so on]
[[[[
So if you going to put the Mayans, Polynesians and other cultures as some kind of "Christianity" based on they rituals, then why not Islam.
Islam and Christians revere the Old Testament. Islam see Jesus as a Prophet. So you then saying Islam is a form of Christianity? Or Even Buddhism. A lot of the teaching Buddhism inline with what Jesus teach. Love your neighbor, Karma and so forth. Is Buddhism a form of encultured Christianity?
So based on your argument, it would seem like the Whole World is sort of a [Christian Enculturation] would you not say? and if no, why not? by your own argument it seem the whole world is somewhat Christian Encultured.
Maybe you would agree then the Christian God, which go back all the way to Abraham, the father of both Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. Maybe all encultured religions start with him.
Because if you want to go so far as to say the Polynesians were practicing a form of Christianity, then Christianity encultured the whole world from the start. or maybe you think Abraham is a mythical person?
The point you trying to make with your original argument is not working. You were wrong from the beginning, and now you just making it up as you go along. You might as well cede the argument to me like your friend wilderide on his nonsensical [free will] argument. because point on enculturation and the Christian religion [AINT] working. Is not that I don't understand it, is because you Wrong.
:)
It's actually b/c you don't understand what I'm writing.

I am asking myself "why, Hiding, are you bothering? He doesn't understand?" And answering "no clue. This is kind of getting annoying. I don't think I can dumb it down further."

No, Mayan Christians are nothing like Muslims. Muslims, for one thing. aren't Christian. That should be your first clue. The second clue is that Mayans don't share anything approaching Indo-European culture. So...as Christians, they sacrifice chickens to God.

No, I don't expect you to understand how they experience God.

No, I am not calling Muslims Christians. I have no idea why you would ask that question. That's quite ridiculous.

No, I never said "Polynesians WERE practicing a form of Christianity." That's patently stupid. I would never claim such an absurdity. Clearly, you are incapable of understanding what I'm writing. Possibly the fault is mine, but I have my doubts.

I said "Christian Polynesians include ancestor worship in their rituals." Where, my good man, is a past tense grammatical point in that sentence? There's no "were" at all. When Polynesians adopted Christianity, they included their past rituals.

In fact, all peoples from non-Christian cultures who adopted Christianity changed Christianity to suit their culture. Because you have difficulties here, I want you to understand that I wrote "peoples" and not "people." The difference is extremely important.

I apologize that English is your second language and that this is difficult for you. I suggest you go slower, double check where you aren't clear on meanings. I'll treat you like a second language learner from now and and try very hard to be more patient.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498407 Mar 5, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
projection ... deep down you know you ain't nothing but a mental slave to religion
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm projecting?
Did you consider how ridiculous that comment is after accusing me of projection. Dude - you're the one who is owned by the church. You're the one giving it your life, your heart, mind and soul. You're the one letting it tell you how to live and think. You're the one giving it thousands of hours of your life praying, studying the bible, and listening to sermons. You're the one giving it thousands of your dollars.
And then you call me the slave to religion, the guy who has walked away from it and now declaims it.
That's a stunning lack of insight for you to post.
IANS....trifecta1 wrote the above. Yes, it's ridiculous, projecting, ironic and absurd, but no, there's nothing stunning about him posting that.

Inanity is quite normal for him.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498408 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
I've always had nightmares about being burned alive, can we perhaps discuss drowning or being shot? Cheers :-)
Sure. I would hate to drown or be shot. You?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498409 Mar 5, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Genesis....
“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”
Hmmmm, what to write so that people will follow my god over other gods......? Hmmmmm.... I don't quite have it....should I talk about love or threaten them?

Oh! I know: both!

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#498410 Mar 5, 2013
And there was one named Barabbas which lay bound with them that had made insurrection with him who had committed murder in the insurrection.

But go your way tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee:there shall ye see him as he said unto you.

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#498411 Mar 5, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Sure. I would hate to drown or be shot. You?
I agree but the other would be worse.. Much worse..

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#498412 Mar 5, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes.....Double Chins also
Lol.. I love ya Epi :-)

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#498413 Mar 5, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Your lack of a refutation of what I said is noted, and is your un-Jesus-like behavior.
:)
I would refute you claims if your conversation made any sense. When you decide to understand the bible and not hatchet scripture with your ugly interpretations, then I will jump into the conversation. I wonder how Duane hasn't already gotten frustrated with you by now.

By the way, there was no one named Jesus living in 1st century Palestine. Shows how much you know.

You get a do over, by the way.

CS.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#498415 Mar 5, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Guten Morgen....
My husbands grandparents on both sides were from Germany....
Love and respect

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#498417 Mar 5, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait, you are a messianic Jew and you claim the Hebrew Bible is inaccurate?
He never said he was a Messianic Jew, and the bible we have today, especially the NT portion, hardly resembles anything Hebrew as opposed to what it was between 40 and 100 AD.

Shalom Mr. Wild Rider.

Counter_Strike.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#498418 Mar 5, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Would Jesus burn you?
Trifecta...isn't that what hell is all about...a place that you are sent to burn for eternity???

If one exercises their free will and chooses not to follow Jesus then they are punished for that by being tossed in to a lake of fire.

So yes...if one believes what is written...Jesus/God would burn someone.

“Quo Vadis”

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#498419 Mar 5, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. Like of the days of old when the Israelites wanted meat. Careful what people ask for as they may get it.
Once again, agreed.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498421 Mar 5, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree but the other would be worse.. Much worse..
Uh...I don't remember the other now...

Anyways, I vote for heroin overdose! No better time dying :)

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#498422 Mar 5, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
I would refute you claims if your conversation made any sense. When you decide to understand the bible and not hatchet scripture with your ugly interpretations, then I will jump into the conversation. I wonder how Duane hasn't already gotten frustrated with you by now.
By the way, there was no one named Jesus living in 1st century Palestine. Shows how much you know.
You get a do over, by the way.
CS.
Uhm...1st century means 0-99. So...did Jesus die in 0 AD or -1 AD?

I'm honestly a bit confused on this point. Is BCE (Before Christian Era) from before Jesus' birth or death? Or do we have a 30 year blank spot?
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#498428 Mar 5, 2013
@AnnieJ

Sweetie.Homosexual act is not required by the Bible. Quite the contrary, homosexuality is condemned.Homosexual act and behaviour in any form is an abomination to the LORD.

Since: Dec 12

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#498429 Mar 5, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Uh...I don't remember the other now...

Anyways, I vote for heroin overdose! No better time dying :)
Ugh.. Needles... I'll go with being shot or decapitated, nice and quick.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#498432 Mar 5, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>True thing writer. I remember right before they bombard the billboard I was writing to skombolis and lawest writers if someone die today are they in heaven right now and I was making the claim that spirit cannot die, body die.
And others was talking about the OSAS topic and so forth. No one wasn't talking about homosexuality until these freethinkers come on here and bomb the billboard with they secular and immoral agenda.
Annie is just looking someone to blame, namely me. The reason for this is, on the last two threads I was on that Annie was also a part of, when the homosexuality conversation did come up, I wasn't hypocritical about my opinion. I admitted that there can be nice gay people, but it doesn't excuse them living a homosexual lifestyle, which is abominable unto Yahweh Elohiym, the Most High One.

I also remember the OSAS group, and lines were drawn because they were against the Law and its relevance in the times after the resurrection of the Savior. It was during these conversations when talking abiout grace and mercy, that homosexuals as a group of people came up. What I said is that only people who try to obey the Law can be given Grace, but not the Lawless and I slammed homosexuality. hence, the Othersiders or Lax Thinkers invaded this thread.

Shalom Trifecta1.

Andrew (CS).

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