Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#498033 Mar 4, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
HL's last name is Mencken? Aha !! Now I can track her down.
.. I'll leave milk at the door ..

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#498034 Mar 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Very true, but the question as to when is the issue. And depending on which group you ask, the answers differ, sometimes by thousands and thousands of years.
I don't see what difference that makes. There were human settlements on other continents, sometimes preceding the Hebrews, sometimes not. The point is that Yahweh seems completely unaware of them. In fact, Yahweh seems to have gotten all it's information from the Hebrews, not the other way around.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#498035 Mar 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Well, "God" chose the nation of Israel because they were direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And Abraham was chosen because he was a direct descendant of Shem and Noah. And Noah was chosen because he was a direct descendant of Adam.
Um, wouldn't ALL humans be direct descendants of Adam?

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#498037 Mar 4, 2013
Sins......LMAO!

There are forty-two death-penalty sins in the Old Testament:
They left one out...farting at the table

Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19.
Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25.
Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex.
2:15,19.
Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15.
Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7.
Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.
Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32.
Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18.
Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16.
Idolatry - Ex. 22:20.
Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33.
Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33.
Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38.
Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14.
Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2.
Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in
uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21.
Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25.
Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9.
Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14.
Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22.
Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8.
Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5.
Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27.
Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30.
Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13.
Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18.
Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22.
Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3.
Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29.
Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30.
Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16.
Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13.
Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31.
Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36.
Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20.
False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20.
Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18.
Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23.
Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23.
Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23.
Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7.
False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#498038 Mar 4, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good A CS, I agree, the homosexual subject is really beginning to get out of hand here and really need to be laid to rest once and for all.
Peace.
.. will you please tell that to Adam, Q, CS, Clearwater and a few others ??..

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#498040 Mar 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Or, is it possible that our fallible archaeologists with their man-made instruments be mistaken? All I'm asking is if it's possible? Because if it is, then there's place for reasonable doubt.
Reasonable doubt? About what? Are you saying that archaeological evidence of cultures in Asia, Australia, North and South America, and even Northern Europe predating or concurrent to the Hebrews were all made up? Or planted by the Devil like dinosaur bones? Why had God forsaken all those other people?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#498043 Mar 4, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed! Strangely enough, they say we hate, but if we really did hate then we would not try to urge them to come of of homosexuality or the support of it. Notice how up to this point, they fail to address homosexual or heterosexual incest between consenting adults. Because they know the consenting adults bull doesn't fly and that immorality is immorality, and those who claim we are on the wrong side of history needs to see what happened to those Empires of the past that have been Lawless and rebellious against Yahweh Elohiym, the Most High One of Israel.
Shalom my friend!
Andrew (CS).
Indeed. I'm not much of a sports fan but have a friend that is diehard 49ers fan. Would you believe that until I met him I didn't know who Tim Tebow was? Ha, this is when he was playing at UF. Anyway Tebow was to speak at a church in Tx but pulled out becasue some say they preach hate. From what I can find the pastor stands on the word so yes sadly many will call that hate speech. Again I wonder how long before the day comes when we may lose freedom of speech to a system that hates the very law of God? What is good what is right, what is pure of heart is hated and the same system of laws stand up for child porn calling that free speech! Going to suck for people that try that on judgement day. Shalom.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#498044 Mar 4, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>~~~grin~~~
Thank you sir, enjoyed the judging apparatus as well. But your writings are far more effective in nailing these freethinkers imo.
Thank you Mr. Trifecta1. The 'Othersiders' come in here not wanting to listen to us, but expect us to listen to their Lawless BS. I love people, we all should but we should stand up for righteousness and denounce evil. All sorts of wickedness and perversion are running rampant on this land. Prophecy is being fulfilled because this Lawless generation and the ones before it who didn't teach morality, is causing the sins to pile up. When Yahweh's cup of wrath is full, then it will be judgment and a great multitude shall be caught unawares. Why are people lovers of pleasures and lusts and lean upon their own understanding and are not lovers of obedience, morality and righteousness? Why can't people heed the warnings about the dangers just around the corner?

Why must people, mortal and most certainly finite, test and tempt The Most High One? What is there to gain by this? What do they believe will become of their fight for rights and they themselves? Some of these people in here, because they are related to or have a friend that is gay, suddenly change their morals so that they do not hurt their loved one(s). they have been tested and are failing their test. They have proven unlike Job that they are more lovers of themselves rather than of the Eternal Father and of everlasting life. They have gone aside, and have forfeited every other good thing that they have done and that they stand for because their one transgression is so detestible. Homosexuality is against Family, and being against family and in support of fruitlessness is being against The Creator.

Yes, Lesbians can still have children and yes, gay men can still impregnate women, but why would they do that? Why will a gay person indulge in a moment of straightness just to reap reward that is undeserved? I tell you my friend, the Lightning that flashes from teh east and unto the west as in the days of the coming of Yahshua Ha Mashiach (the Savior), shall bring much damage and destruction upon the land and shall consume the wicked for they stand against Him. There are no believer or non believer that can claim they worship or believe in """'God'" """ (as they would put it) and yet be against His Law. this would be contrary and utter foolishness.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#498046 Mar 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>The differences that you failed to mention is that the nation of Israel was, numerous times, rebuked for having such a superiority complex based on "God" choosing. It was explained to them that His choosing had everything to do with the promises made to Abraham and not them. They were told, several times, to not think that their being descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, amounts to anything if they aren't as obedient and faithful as Abraham was. And then, in the same religious book, we read of the many punishments and captivities that befell Israel for their lack of faith and obedience. Obviously, what's recorded wasn't so that we could look up to Israel, or envy them. It's so that we can read of the mistakes they made and learn from them.
But the fact remains that the Hebrew Bible describes a God which showed very unjust favoritism for one tribe, the consistency of that favoritism notwithstanding. And the Hebrews had to have some explanation for when bad things happened to them, right? Just as Christians do today. Something terrible happens, and it's your lack of faith that is the cause, regardless of how much collateral damage happens to the innocent.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#498048 Mar 4, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. will you please tell that to Adam, Q, CS, Clearwater and a few others ??..
I don't often think about it. Nor does my wife. In fact most of the time it only enters my mind when I see some of the bunk posted here. I will share loud and often my story and wifes story of how Jesus made us free. Don't like it? Too bad.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#498049 Mar 4, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Freedom of Speech the Constitution says we all got a right to speak.You say the wrong thing.What the bible says toward your wick demonic sexuality comes not from me it comes from the lord of worlds.
and start listen Gods Word. I ve never claimed being self-rightious. I am just a servant of god.
God needs to clean house then.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#498050 Mar 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>So, any dark-skinned person with dreadlocks, you label as a voodoo wizard from Jamaica? Would you prefer the more accepted depiction, that being of Cesare Borgias? And now, you're telling me that I'm not completely obedient to the laws of the bible.
You are beside yourself.
How can you declare that your purpose in life isn't to prove anyone right or wrong, whether it be another or yourself, but then say the things you say to people?
Don't bother answering, because I won't respond back.
You are, without a doubt, beside yourself, hypocrite.
Loosen tongue brother. I have also Jamaican ancestry as I do Hebrew. What is this I'm hearing?

Let us break words one to another my brother, so we can put them to proper purpose.

Andrew (CS).

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#498051 Mar 4, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
Serah
IANS asked about FIG TREE made dead by Jesus?
maybe I help in this
Ancient and even modern tradition of far and middle east,
ALWAYS SYBOLIZE NATION FULL OF DARK RICH GREEN LEAVES,AND FRUTIST SUPPLY BASIC FOOD NOURISHMENT,AND ALL INGREDITINTS TO THOSE WHO WERE SEATING UNDER THIS TREE-like protection from sun,heat,heavy dessert winds,heavy rains etc...
Olive Tree from ot till Jesus Time was SYMBOL OF RICH SPIRITUALY,ECONMICAALY,AND PROTECTIONS OF WHOLE NATION ISRAEL
JESUS ACT AGAINST THIS TREE, SHOWS TO ALL LEADERS,BELIEVERS THAT OLIVE TREE THEIR LAWS,THEIR PROTECTIONS ,SPIRITUALY AND MATERIAL PROSPERITY IS DEAD,JUST DESTROYED BY GOD SAVIOUR OF MANKIND, AND SAVIOUR WHO WAS COMPLETLY REJECTED BY LEADERS LIVING ON THIS TREE-OLOVE TREE ALWAYS WAS GREAT PICTURE OF CHOSEN NATION ISRAEL,ALSO OIL FROM THIS TREE GAVE THEM ALL KIND OF FOOD, NOURISHMENT,VEGETABLES ETC.....
DESSERT AREAS OF FAR AND MIDDLE EAST MANY TIME POSESS TILL TODAY OLIVE TREES AND VERY FRUITFUL AREA OF THEIR GROWS,
ISRAEL WAS AND IS STILL TODAY THIS REGION COUNTRY,ONLY NOT ALIVE IN THE GOD EYES AS CHOSEN NATION?
try to explain IANS,
because I don't have any sympathy to this uneducated dumb mocker of his OWN MAKER-GOD?
God bless you Serah
We are all GOD's Children, Dr Shrink, and deserve HIS Blessings...:)

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#498052 Mar 4, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Mr. Trifecta1. The 'Othersiders' come in here not wanting to listen to us, but expect us to listen to their Lawless BS. I love people, we all should but we should stand up for righteousness and denounce evil. All sorts of wickedness and perversion are running rampant on this land. Prophecy is being fulfilled because this Lawless generation and the ones before it who didn't teach morality, is causing the sins to pile up. When Yahweh's cup of wrath is full, then it will be judgment and a great multitude shall be caught unawares. Why are people lovers of pleasures and lusts and lean upon their own understanding and are not lovers of obedience, morality and righteousness? Why can't people heed the warnings about the dangers just around the corner?
Why must people, mortal and most certainly finite, test and tempt The Most High One? What is there to gain by this? What do they believe will become of their fight for rights and they themselves? Some of these people in here, because they are related to or have a friend that is gay, suddenly change their morals so that they do not hurt their loved one(s). they have been tested and are failing their test. They have proven unlike Job that they are more lovers of themselves rather than of the Eternal Father and of everlasting life. They have gone aside, and have forfeited every other good thing that they have done and that they stand for because their one transgression is so detestible. Homosexuality is against Family, and being against family and in support of fruitlessness is being against The Creator.
Yes, Lesbians can still have children and yes, gay men can still impregnate women, but why would they do that? Why will a gay person indulge in a moment of straightness just to reap reward that is undeserved? I tell you my friend, the Lightning that flashes from teh east and unto the west as in the days of the coming of Yahshua Ha Mashiach (the Savior), shall bring much damage and destruction upon the land and shall consume the wicked for they stand against Him. There are no believer or non believer that can claim they worship or believe in """'God'" """ (as they would put it) and yet be against His Law. this would be contrary and utter foolishness.
Shalom.
Andrew (CS).
.. didn't you want to end the debate about homosexuality ??..
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>IRRELEVANT PORTIONS SNIPPED** It is high time we ended this conversation about the gays..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#498053 Mar 4, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't often think about it. Nor does my wife. In fact most of the time it only enters my mind when I see some of the bunk posted here. I will share loud and often my story and wifes story of how Jesus made us free. Don't like it? Too bad.
.. is that anger directed towards me or the Christians that asked the subject of homosexuality be dropped ??..

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#498054 Mar 4, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that I never made such a comparison, right? I simply made the statement that you are neither black or gay. The exact statement was:
"Perhaps because you are neither".
That's all it took to start this last little free-for-all.
I'm good, ain't I?
Slick as a witch's tit.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#498055 Mar 4, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>....
Is that what you meant to type?
Even if it was, I'd say some subconscious expression was evidenced there.
Christianity; Over 30,000 denominations and growing
oops. No, I meant to type "without the people", not "with the people".

I was eatin a sammich & couldn't type right....

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#498056 Mar 4, 2013
First, I posted: "His death, as said, gives us grace. We're instructed not to use this grace, or liberty, for an occasion to the flesh. Grace is given so that we can learn righteousness without fear of corporal punishment. If we don't take advantage of this grace, we'll have to pay the penalty ourselves. The wages of sin is death."
wilderide wrote:
That directly contradicts several passages of the NT, including:

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

and Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast."

and Galatians 2:16: "A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ."
I understand your contention, because isolated, that's exactly the conclusion we'd come to. But, it's a must we take all scripture into consideration in order to understand fully what's to be believed. For example, does the following contradict my initial assertions?
James wrote:
2:14-26
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
1) To "believe," first and foremost, means "to be faithful and obedient." Faith encourages obedience, and obedience is a reflection of our faith. Mark 16:16 is a true statement, however one must remain faithful and obedient until the end.

2) Ephesians 2:8-9 remains grossly misunderstood by so many. Paul's saying that we're "saved by grace" is in regards to the fulfillment of the penalty of death, according to the Mosaic law, by the shed blood of our anointed Savior. Before his death, grace came by the blood of beasts and had to be repeated daily. But, if a man sacrificed and that same day got caught in the act of a sin that was worthy of death, that man was put to death without exception. The shed blood of our anointed Savior saved us from such a penalty. And this was a decision made by "God," to grant us this grace, and had no basis on anything anyone had done prior. No man, then, can say that he was granted such grace because he was already righteous. And to say that we're saved by grace through faith is to say that it's our unwavering belief that grace and mercy comes now by the shed blood of our anointed Savior and not by the blood of animals that saves us.

3) The whole book of Galatians was in regards to two specific laws that I know for fact; sacrifice and circumcision. Why Galatians is misunderstood is because people fail to realize that Paul used general terminology. And why shouldn't he? He was writing to an already-established church?

I'm out of room, but I hope I've explained these things clearly. Thank you for the friendly exchange.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#498057 Mar 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Wrong one more time.
Projection.
Catcher1 wrote:
I have said nothing about the Christian church.
Do you deny that you think the church holds no place in modern society and therefore should not have any say publicly about morality?
Catcher1 wrote:
My interest is in protecting every person's constitutional rights and getting rid of homophobes like you.
I would love to see you try Mr. 1. You haven't the foggiest do you. Protecting people is one thing. Protecting evil and other social ills is another. You will be required to give answers.
Catcher1 wrote:
I could care less if you believe in gods.
Sorry, I do not believe in gods nor do I believe in idols. Your house and your car or the money you make may all be your gods. It seems like you're setting yourself up for steady doses of scripture. Keep it up, and I may want to make you a project of mine.

:)

Have a nice day.

Counter_Strike: Too little freedom leads to rebellion. Too much freedom is Laxity and causes chaos. We all need boundaries and rules to protect us from ourselves. What are you actually defending?[Quo Vadis]

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#498058 Mar 4, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>We are all GOD's Children, Dr Shrink, and deserve HIS Blessings...:)
Except for your brother, sadly.

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