Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#497041 Mar 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Lesser gods? Everybody that rules his own life is a lesser god?
In a sense, yes. But...

In the actual sense of the definition, a "god" is one that reflects the attributes of Father Yahoweh, making them capable of teaching others-- first, by example, and then verbally. Then...

We have "false-gods." These, within the confines of our discussion, are those that choose to live by their own rules. Simple.
Ians wrote:
You rely heavily on fallacies of equivocation, wherein the meanings of words shape-shift like clouds.
...says the one that, apparently, doesn't have knowledge of how certain terms should be defined according to the bible.
Ians wrote:
That doesn't make sense.
Yeah. Not the way I put it. Sorry 'bout that. What I was saying is that the term "worship," like "god," has numerous definitions that only make sense when used in the proper context.
Ians wrote:
When you use weasel words like "it's possible," you cannot be wrong,
Yeah. I'm nice like that.
Ians wrote:
..just as I'm correct to say that it's possible that you are planning to shoot up a school this week. It's possible.
You can say whatever you want. The difference between you and I, apparently, is that I say things are possible only when it makes sense according to the discussion. Nothing I've said would possibly lead you to believe that I might shoot up a school. But, you on the other hand...

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#497043 Mar 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not Jesus words. It is the author's opinion.
Yes. Christianity has been based on the idiotic opinions of morons for 2000 years.
This is where the BS began.
Sadly no one seems to be able to tell the difference between Jesus and anyone else in the Bible.
It also proves that the author wasn't an an Apostle nor a Jew or they would have know the reference to Solomon and that Jesus was NOT saying his body is a building.
Oh, so you did understand what I meant? Sorry, I thought it went straight over your head :)

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#497045 Mar 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Good morning Lawest100, it is Sunday, nearly 8:30am and my chosen day of Sabbath!!
Not sure who recalls of when I quit my last job, just before Christmas in 2011, when the new CEO at the time was treating me pretty dreadfully. I put my Faith in GOD and started at the job I am in now on the 19th Dec 2011, but even I didn't think I would start work until sometime early in 2012, however, hospitality industries don't close for the Christmas period and I received my first pay before Christmas day.
Anyway, I received a phone call yesterday morning telling me that the CEO (the control freak as she called herself) didn't last a year, and that my replacement (in finances) has just been charged with embezzlement. Not saying stealing is a just desert for a company that didn't care for their employees as such, just saying what happened!!
Ahhh, and these days, I am well respected and well cared for in my role, and for that, I will always thank GOD :)
Just chiming in to say God does move in some mysterious ways.
He has a way of moving thoses he loves and cares for.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#497046 Mar 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
She was being sarcastic. She isn't an American.
Yes ~ it was in response to that posting comment "I'm not Jewish so I don't care" or however it was written.

I am often amazed at how many intelligent people don't seem to care about the starving in the world..... as if they have less right to be here and to be cared for than we do.

Even more sad is the fact that some of the richest countries in the world, resource wise, have the poorest and hungriest people in their care.

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Only a small portion of that payout, about $3.5 million, comes directly from Dhoni’s on-field play. He has a Grade A national contract with the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) that pays a base salary of about $200,000, though he also receives match fees and bonuses that boost his national pay well above $500,000 each year. Dhoni is also among the IPL’s highest-paid players, earning about $125,000 per game played. Dhoni hasn’t missed a single game for the Super Kings since June of 2011, including 19 in the last IPL and four in last year’s Nokia Champions League Twenty20.
World's Highest-Paid Athletes: Behind the Numbers Kurt Badenhausen Kurt Badenhausen Forbes Staff
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The remaining sum of $23 million comes from his impressive list of nearly 25 endorsements, including PepsiCo, Reebok and Sony. That incredible sponsorship income sets him apart not only in the cricket world, but in all of India.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2012/0... ***

Why is it that we keep giving the rich more? Why cannot Coke, Pepsi, Reebok etc etc endorse the starving? Ah, what the heck, that too is an old argument that not too many seem concerned with.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#497048 Mar 2, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Just chiming in to say God does move in some mysterious ways.
He has a way of moving thoses he loves and cares for.
Thats for sure LW........

We've seen it time and again here..........When god wants us to move he sends in Dr. Shrink. The good Doctor farts and chases us all out of the room..........

;-b

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#497049 Mar 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Once again, did you have a point with this, or did you just intend to imply one? Are you suggesting that what most Americans think is relevant here? If so, try using words and doing so explicitly: "This is what I think and why." Then I can rebut that claim.
It's a real neat way to use language - to express an idea overtly, precisely and clearly. You're going to love it if you ever give it a chance.
I think Counter Strike responded to three of my posts with something like "Interesting...very interesting." That's all I remember getting from him.

When someone has a good argument, they make it. When they don't, and still feel the need to open their "mouths", we get passive aggressive, vague, emotionally charged drivel. We're also expected to agree with absurd premises without so much as a mention of them.

RR must expect you to know his arguments without making them because they are "obvious". How is it possible that you wouldn't see things as he sees them? It is unimaginable. If that's how it is, that's what we can expect.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#497050 Mar 2, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Just chiming in to say God does move in some mysterious ways.
He has a way of moving thoses he loves and cares for.
Cheers Lil Whispers ~ it was my Faith that gave me the strength to quit that job at a time when money was probably more needed than most; some say it was my own strength that gave me the strength, but that is because they were not with me when suffering and inner torment were a part of my daily moments.

I did have Matthew's Scriptures hanging on that old office wall,(now they are hanging on my bedroom wall) and reading them regularly most definitely had an impact of the greatest kind. It is also my strong belief that the more Faith we have, the more we have in Faith :)

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#497051 Mar 2, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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Thats for sure LW........
We've seen it time and again here..........When god wants us to move he sends in Dr. Shrink. The good Doctor farts and chases us all out of the room..........
;-b
Now rider has no one ever taught you to stay down wind not up wind when thoses come slippin by.lol It when the slip in the bedroom when one is sleep that get abit rough ya know lol one thinks do I dive for the covers or pillow but pillow is a safety net ya know and sometimes one can not tell if it a snore or a slip of the other perfume.lol I hear it said,they are smelless.lol have a good one and be sure and use pill for safety net lol lol.you live longer that way lol lol cause I heard tell some can be real killers.lol lol

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#497052 Mar 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
Cheers ~ I am still amazed at their knowledge of 6000 years ago and you aren't. I guess we can leave it there because I cannot tell you how many times those same scriptures have been posted supporting the argument that the Scribes and Prophets were wrong.
The 4 Directions of the earth still remain, though, and have never been altered to suit a more spherical object, and I still find that endearing :)
That is an impressive display of confirmation bias.

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Since: Jul 07

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#497053 Mar 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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I am sure
your little reincarnated Pugstar is not this old puppy Pugstar,
only small bloody predator and killer chasing ghosts around you,
it means he is like your own danger visible angel to make sure and keep you out from all wicked devils,humans and doubts
just bend knee to God,and loud shrie:
O THANK YOU GOD FOR GIVING ME THIS LITTLE PUGSTAR PREDATOR WHO IS MY PERSONAL GUARDIAN ANGEL
amen amen amen?
Amen.... GOD knows how much Doggies mean to me, and have meant much to me for as long as I can recall :)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#497054 Mar 2, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
That is an impressive display of confirmation bias.
Really?

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Since: Aug 12

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#497055 Mar 2, 2013
@ Capn' BT



Esp. at mins. 3:13 and 5:59

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#497056 Mar 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Since you don't have a preference, can we count on your support to remove the god from it?
If I don't have a preference, then why would I support either stance? I don't even think it bothers you as much as you're acting like it does. Again, the inclusion or exclusion of "In God We Trust" won't do anything toward the value of it.
Ians wrote:
[1] So? Why would you think that would matter to me? I wouldn't care which god you have in mind.
Why does it matter, at all, considering that it does absolutely nothing toward the value of it? Do you think that people automatically mistaken you for a believer just because you use currency that says "In God We Trust" on it?
Ians wrote:
[2] That would have been the time for the lower case "god."
But, the term is capitalized on our currency, so...
Ians wrote:
How about this instead: whenever YOU see that motto, you think about this conversation, and that everybody is his own god, and needs no other.
Or, how about this, instead. How about if it just doesn't matter, at all, what's on our currency, considering that we use it already anyway, even with what it says on it. I mean, why not, also, ask that the Washington Monument be taken down considering that it derives from the Egyptian obelisk and represents the adoration and worship of the sun-god, Ra, or the petrified ray of the Aten? Or, do you not mind that? And what's your feelings regarding George Washington being portrayed as Zeus, in sculpture?
Ians wrote:
And yet another shape-shifting of the meaning of "god." I've never heard ancient wisdom called god. And I sure don't trust any ancient wisdom, either.
Anything can become a god. All we have to do is place something as our primary focus and reason to function in our lives. This "ancient wisdom" is, supposedly, the path to a true Utopia, but without any religious god.

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#497057 Mar 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
Yes ....... but they still couldn't not travel the same way explorers traveled, however, this debate is old hat and there is no real point in continuing it. We each find that which we seek ~ you are satisfied with what you have found, and I am satisfied with what I have found, let us be happy with that?
That's called confirmation bias.

A rational skeptic avoids confirmation bias. It is nothing to be happy about. It means you cannot learn.
Serah wrote:
On another note, how is your Pugeagle? I have put my name down for fostering or adopting another Pug, I didn't realise people didn't care for these doggies in Australia, and there are Puggies waiting for help.
Maybe none in SA, seeing as I had to get Prince Pugstar flown over from Sydney, but if I can put my hand out to help one of these little snoring beauties, I surely will :)
Perhaps too we can put down the issue of Christian v Non Christian and just take each other as we are?

Since: May 09

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#497058 Mar 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That would be the views of ***some*** crazy Christians, yes?
I've made my views clear in this area.

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#497059 Mar 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
We don't say GOD wrote the Bible, we say it is written by Scribes and Prophets; and of course, man(kind) has influenced the words doing the best they can to write it down, and doing the best they can to interpret it into a language of today.
When one uses the Bible for a purpose, as such, they perhaps gain more from it than when they are seeking Scriptures to criticize the writings of many thousands of years ago.....
The Bible says God wrote the Bible. The Bible threatens a harsh punishment to anyone modifying the Bible. The Bible threatens eternal torture to anyone who doesn't accept the truth of the Bible.

The Bible was written by men of absolutely no special standing. The Bible is a product of the culture in which it was written. It represents values that by all rights, should have been discarded long ago. It is unfortunate that so many believed it to be the word of an actual deity. That is an honest tragedy. The world has suffered greatly for it.

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#497060 Mar 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Cheers Lil Whispers ~ it was my Faith that gave me the strength to quit that job at a time when money was probably more needed than most; some say it was my own strength that gave me the strength, but that is because they were not with me when suffering and inner torment were a part of my daily moments.
I did have Matthew's Scriptures hanging on that old office wall,(now they are hanging on my bedroom wall) and reading them regularly most definitely had an impact of the greatest kind. It is also my strong belief that the more Faith we have, the more we have in Faith :)
Life can be one big adventure.Like you changing jobs sometime one can be going along lookin for a job and bingo turn the cornor there it is in living color.Amazing where ones feet carry them.If I was to hang scripture I run out of wall space.It just best I woren out the book and has it stood strong like the word in it thru useage with the passage of time and putting up of me digging thru it.

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#497061 Mar 2, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>what a compilation.
So now wait a minute. According to you then, you here because you want to change even if is just one Christian, that just because you not think like the Christian, then you're a good person. And many atheists are good people even though they not think like the Christian?
OK.
Now. Worldly good, or good in the eyes of human beings, is not the same as good in the eyes God.
I think from what I see of you, that you're a good person. Even Catcher I think is a good person. Just because his worldview no match mine I no think he a bad person. But that me.
But to Jesus, we all no good:
Mark 10:18
And Jesus said unto him, Why call me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.(that another place Jesus call Himself God, but that another matter)
[[[[[
So when you go get one of my post that I tell a writer they from Satan, that is based on Christian Theology taught by Jesus Christ. If you against the Christ, then you're of Christ enemy Satan.
So when you say you know what you take from it, to be correct in your perceptions, you must look at it from a worldly perspective, and a theological perspective.
Because worldly perspective I sure think you're a good person, based on the little writings I see you do.
But based on theological teaching, you're wicked damned and headed to an eternal Godless and Christ less hell and torment if you die rejecting Jesus Christ and His Spirit as the only true way to get to YHWH God.
Jesus say no one any good, that including you. So it not as cut and dry as you say. Now if you insist on it being cut and dry, then it may look like you on an agenda to criticize Christians, instead of looking into why Christians may say what they say based on Theology.
Trying to separate the Christian from Christian Theology, is like trying to separate the Pope from Christianity.
You can't tell the Christian that you good in the eyes of God, when the God of Christianity Jesus Christ say no one any good.
Now if you say you and your other atheists friends good in the eyes and opinions of the world and world system, then that another matter we may can find some common ground.
To you, your theology has a meaning or value inasmuch as it applies to your belief.

I don't have a belief in your theology. I don't have a Hindu's belief that he has in his theology. I don't have an Islamic theistic belief. I have none of the theistic beliefs of a theist or that the theist has. Theistic beliefs mean nothing to me.

Those are to me, the same as believing in Leprechauns, magical alligators, or an invisible purple Elvis living in Boise, Idaho.

RiversideRedneck

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#497062 Mar 2, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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To you, your theology has a meaning or value inasmuch as it applies to your belief.
I don't have a belief in your theology. I don't have a Hindu's belief that he has in his theology. I don't have an Islamic theistic belief. I have none of the theistic beliefs of a theist or that the theist has. Theistic beliefs mean nothing to me.
Those are to me, the same as believing in Leprechauns, magical alligators, or an invisible purple Elvis living in Boise, Idaho.
That's great, good for you.

Now what?
gokkod

Rochester, PA

#497063 Mar 2, 2013

Cant see the Love hes dead?

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