Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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Your blender is not nice when mows the green grass on the other side.
You are catching on. <smile>

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I have to admit that my first thought on reading this is: why can't God create humans more to it's taste, and why are humans to blame for their flawed making?
Anyway, so then Jesus' death is not the end? I thought according to the Bible that Jesus paid the debt for all sins. Now you are suggesting that this is not an absolution of debt but a loan? I have to admit that is not a Christian doctrine I'd ever heard before. It's interesting, but is it Biblically supported?
Hi Wilderide..
I have been reading your post and I find you really interesting. You know the bible very well. Jesus DID pay the debt for ALL sin. I like BLL but this is where him and I disagree. According to the Old and New Testament, It tells us exactly that. If Jesus said that He sets us free, then WHY would anyone suggest that it would be a loan? Thats NOT freedom, thats more bondage. The way that I see it is God doesn't blame all mankind. Thats why Jesus ask Him to forgive them for they know NOT what they do. If someone would actually stop trying to disect the bible all the time and simply remember WHY Jesus came and gave up His life for us, It might cease all these arguments. In my own words...The Bible tells us that God wants all humans to be in heaven with Him? Right?? The bible also says that it Pleased Him to die for us and take upon Himself ALL the sins of the world...Then after ALL that Jesus done for us on our behalf,God decides to Change His plan and now tell us that its back to His old plan of salvation and we must earn it ourself again?? It just doesn't make any sense to me nor should it make any sense to anybody else BECAUSE its NOT Bibical. Once a person decides to Trust in their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord, They ARE saved and has eternal life...PERIOD..The walk we do as a Christian may deliver us blessings and our disobedience may deliver chastising but the Gift of Salvation is a Gift that was paid for 2000 years ago and offered to us freely. Its free to anyone who will believe but it cost Jesus His life. Thats WHY He came and thats WHY He died for the sins of ALL Mankind.
I like your attitude and polite manner when speaking to others..Just wanted to share this with you but I am positive that you alreadt knew all that I posted above..Grace and Peace to you Wilderide

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I still have hope the little guy will come around. He cant do it quickly or there will be trouble..........Lets all hope he got the compassion gene somewhere along the line..........
Saw that on Rodman. I would go out on a limb and say most that live there don't think the dear leader is "awesome" if they were allowed to speak the truth.

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scaritual wrote:
According to your religious mythology, you have an option. A or B.
Live or die.
That isn't free will.
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The fallacy of false dichotomy is committed when the arguer claims that his conclusion is one of only two options, when in fact there are other possibilities.
The arguer then goes on to show that the 'only other option' is clearly outrageous, and so his preferred conclusion must be embraced.
Again, Fallacy of False Dichotomy.
Try again?
Tide with Beach wrote:
I don't want to live or die, so I'll just do that other thing.
What's that other thing, RR?
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What?!
If "live or die" is a false dichotomy, what is the other option?

Would you like to retract or clarify at this point?

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Silly man, the Jews don't know anything about the Hebrew language. Only American Christians know what the Bible says.
LOL
Whenever I use a quote from the bible in a discussion, I endeavor to use the most accurate or faithful to the particular language that portion of the bible was written in.

So, I had supplied a couple quotes from the OT, I forget the exact verses, and I mentioned they were from what were considered the two most currently accurate Jewish/Hebrew translations available. They didn't match up with the "Christian" translations.

And the response was: "But I don't care, I'm NOT JEWISH!"

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You don't know much about the history of the Hebrews.
You should read their ancient history books or talk to a Rabbi. <smile>
Why would we believe a rabbi? He is just as much human as the ones who wrote the bible. You know..the ones you keep calling a liar. Maybe your rabbi is lying. Rabbi's are religious leaders. PERIOD..........

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***So the Jews answered and said to him,‘What sign do you show to us, since you do these things?' Jesus answered and said to them,‘Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.' Then the Jews said,‘It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?' But he was speaking of the temple of his body. When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he said this; and they believed the Scripture, and the word which Jesus had spoken (John 2:18-22).
So Jesus DOESN'T SAY HE WILL BE RAISED FROM THE DEAD. He says he could knock down and rebuild Judaism's Holy Place in a couple days. That occured in 70 AD. Sounds like a fulfilled prophecy to me...or a pretty obvious statement to most first century Jews.

If Jesus was resurrected he surely would have choked to death on all the words Christians shoved in his mouth.

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.... Jesus did not fulfill those prophesies that the Hebrews themselves wrote about (descended from the house of David, be fully human rather than a demi-god, gather all the Jews to Israel, and enact peace on Earth in his own lifetime), how is it Christians can argue with Jews about their (the Jews) own God-inspired holy literature? I've never understood this.
Because you are not ignorant of the truth.

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wilderide wrote:
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....It's interesting, but is it Biblically supported?
LOL

There is little in Christianity that is Biblically supported.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Saw that on Rodman. I would go out on a limb and say most that live there don't think the dear leader is "awesome" if they were allowed to speak the truth.
No, definately not. I'm hoping Kim Jung JR. Has a plan to become a civilized nation over there. Something he would have to bring about slowly and carefully..........

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Dr shrink wrote:
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internet out of date web pages are his teacher, and references
he contradict yourselves badly,
only simple people are not able to catch his posted web specualtions and denials,
he doesn't believe at them,or have any clue about ancient history,or modern christianity
I don't use it enough to know...
I would think that one needs a LOT of time for that!
Does that make me simple dr shrink?

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G_O_D wrote:
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I am.
(That sentence also phrase proves I am God according to Christian doctrine)
Only according to YOUR doctrine..LOL..hahaha YOU are a god? hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha..th anks for the laugh. I needed that

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Dr shrink wrote:
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Farts owb dr Shrink only,
and release those spiritual fragrances to all atheists and nonsenses posted posts
maybe stinks of Farts allow them to make adjustement of their humanoidal monkies brains?
Good point..........

But I'll keep the bottle right here in case you change your mind..........

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River Tam wrote:
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Sounds like the Bible is due for another rewrite. I'll petition the Queen. QEV 2013.
Isn't there already a "gay friendly" version?

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Look at a picture of a map of the world today and it still looks flat.....
Too bad there wasn't a globe to look at "way back then".

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wilderide wrote:
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Unclean and cannot approach or be in God's presence? There are plenty of people in the Bible who did (Abram, Jacob, Issac, Abraham, Moses, etc).
As to Adam's "sin" that is a whole story unto itself. God places two people the equivalent of infants in a garden and puts two forbidden trees right in front of them and then leaves them alone? That's worse than leaving a toddler in a backyard with an unfenced pool. At a minimum God was a pretty bad caretaker, at worse an intentional trickster. And what was this grave "sin"? Acquiring the knowledge of good and evil. I mean, what is so horrific about that?
But at least you have an explanation for why Adam and Eve didn't die after God warned them that they would. Otherwise God lied and the snake told the truth. But isn't it a little obtuse to say "oh God didn't mean 'die' in the obvious sense". I mean, given the naive state of Adam and Eve, wouldn't that subtlety be entire lost on them?
Yep.
Based on the Christian interpretations, abortion is a sin but it is OK to throw a rattlesnake in a baby's crib.

What insane person believes this crap ?

Wait...they're here.

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scaritual wrote:
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Whenever I use a quote from the bible in a discussion, I endeavor to use the most accurate or faithful to the particular language that portion of the bible was written in.
So, I had supplied a couple quotes from the OT, I forget the exact verses, and I mentioned they were from what were considered the two most currently accurate Jewish/Hebrew translations available. They didn't match up with the "Christian" translations.
And the response was: "But I don't care, I'm NOT JEWISH!"
EXACTLY!!!!!! If God wanted us ALL to read ONE language then He would have made only ONE language.

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scaritual wrote:
Yeah, no.
Description of Straw Man
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.
Ya, like you saying I'm dishonest & ignorant.

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The Straw Man fallacy is committed when scar simply ignores RR's actual position and substitutes his distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The bible isn't open to interpretation to "make it whatever you want". It is what it is.
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RiversideRedneck wrote:Some folks just misinterpret it.
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http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg601/sca...
LMAO!

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>**SNIPPED FOR SPACE**Why haven't people got the right to play with an eagle's egg? And yet they have the right to kill as many babies in their lifetime as they can?
.. Serah, are you a mom ??..

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