“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#496502 Mar 1, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>iyai! for someone who claim to leave Christianity and claim is mythology, you sure take it personal enough to rebuke and accuse a Jesus follower of perverting the word. You even capitalize the (His Word)
If you think it was mythology, you would not think that and you would not write it that way.
Christianity still OWNS you. That not necessarily a bad thing, but you just look foolish you keep denying it and it so obvious.
Lol, maybe you'd not be wrong so often is you stopped assuming so much. I'm not taking anything personally, I'm just talking about your behavior. Why is it that you think you can see inside my head? It's weird.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#496503 Mar 1, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, the book called "Leviticus" was intended for all three-- Aaron and his descendants, the Levites, and the nation of Israel.
As we read Leviticus, we'll read who the command was intended for. If it was for Aaron and his descendants alone, it was written that way, specifically. It would say, "And say unto Aaron and unto his sons..." with none others included. If what was commanded was meant for the Levites only, then it most likely says, "And say unto the Levites..." with none others included. But, if what was commanded was intended for the nation, all included, it would most likely say, "Speak unto the children of Israel and say unto them..."
Leviticus 18:1-2 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them...
Leviticus 18:22 says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:1-2 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel..."
Leviticus 20:13 says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
None of the above commandments were commanded to, strictly, Aaron and his sons, or just the Levites.
Right. That's what I was saying. "Children of Israel" refers to the twelve tribes of Israel. So only Jews aren't allowed to be gay, and even then it's only men.

;)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#496504 Mar 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
God's plan?
Devil's work?
Free will for sinkholes?
Punishment for sin?
Yeah; take the easy way out and blame GOD ~ even though you don't believe in HIM, but whatever you do, don't blame man(kind)!!

***Will pumping out all that oil cause the earth to cave in?
October 17, 2008

Dear Cecil:

Never mind the current demand for the stuff — what becomes of the void oil drilling creates? If we pump out millions of barrels per day, we can’t very well leave giant empty caverns, can we? Is the planet on the verge of caving in or what?

— Dan, Long Island

Cecil replies:

Caving in? Please, let’s not panic. The fundamentals of our planet are strong. Besides, we’re talking about a liquid here, and it’s pretty far down. Wholesale removal of solids such as coal or salt close to the surface, now … no question that can lead to exciting times in the immediate vicinity. Still, even if it’s oil at the end of a really long straw, suck out a trillion barrels (roughly what the Exxons of the world have pumped up to date) and you’re going to see an impact. I don’t say it ranks with the collapse of the world financial system, but 100-plus years of serious petroleum extraction have caused parts of the earth to appreciably shrivel up.

About those voids: The familiar image of a spurting oil gusher may give the impression petroleum is stored in some kind of immense underground spray can. Not exactly. Sometimes there’s pressure; compressed natural gas often found in petroleum reservoirs may force the crude to spew after the initial strike. But typically the oil isn’t sitting in a subterranean lake but rather in sand, shale, or porous rock. Once the oil is removed, the weight of the earth above flattens out what’s left and the land sinks — this is called subsidence. The same thing can happen with groundwater pumpage, as we discussed a while back.

Usually subsidence can be detected only via sophisticated instruments — one New York investment firm claimed to be able to gauge the depletion of Saudi petroleum reserves by using satellite-based radar to monitor subsidence over Arabian oil fields. But sometimes it can be easy to spot, particularly in the case of shallow, uncompacted reservoirs in coastal areas. Parts of Long Beach, California, for instance, dropped almost 30 feet in the 1940s and ’50s due to oil production. The Goose Creek oil field near Houston was a couple of feet above sea level when production began circa WWI; now sizable parts of it are underwater.(Subsidence due to groundwater removal has also been a problem in the Houston area.) In Venezuela, dikes had to be built to prevent flooding of sunken lands around the oil fields at Lake Maracaibo.

One way to control subsidence is to pump something else in after you’ve pumped the oil out. Following initial extraction of crude, oil companies may flood the reservoir with water to flush out additional petroleum; this process has largely halted subsidence in places like Long Beach.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2816... ***

They know what they are doing, don't they? After all, they know we don't need oil in the earth..... we need it in the flipping air! So that we can breathe in the fumes.....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496505 Mar 1, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think abortion is OK as a contraception? Do you think they should be more gentle when killing the babies or don't you really think it matters what the baby suffers, as long as it is killed and removed from the womb of the Mother?
***How Are Abortions Done?
www.abortionfacts.com/literature/how-are-abor...
Since abortion was legalized in 1973, approximately 1500000 babies have been ... They were most likely not informed about the development of the unborn ... Women who abort with the drug RU-486 experience nausea, severe ... The nurse must then reassemble the body parts to be sure that all of them were removed.
Pictures of Aborted Babies - Abortion - Wisconsin Right To Life
www.wrtl.org/abortion/pictures.aspx
[EDITED FOR SPACE]
Waste not want not, hey?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here & guess that you choose to NOT have an abortion....

That is your right. But I don't believe it's your right to tell other women that they can't.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496506 Mar 1, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Naaa...wouldn't do that.
I might however call you...
Dumb butt!
If I knew you better I might call you a Smart A$$. I save that one however for close friends! LOL
Dumb butt?!?!?!!!

(In Curly's voice) Why I oughta........!

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#496507 Mar 1, 2013
>>>Serah<<<
Just in case I miss you...
>>>HUGS<<<
You must be an avid reader and with a wealth of imfo!
Now...
I need a month.
I stutter, stumble, battle, and plow my way thru but it's a good read. And even this I needed a spell check for!
>>>smile<<<
Thank you xx

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#496508 Mar 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
They probably would.
But my pro-choice ideal stands firm.
What are your pro-choice ideals on aborting for gender selection?

***"Feminist is as feminist does" was twittered some time ago by the President of Reproductive Choice Australia, Leslie Cannold… I agree, but in contrast to Ms Cannold consider that abortion has no place in true feminism, as it is "a reflection that the needs of women are not being met". What feminists fail to do also speaks volumes.

The reaction to Senator John Madigan preparing a bill, to remove federal funding for sex selection abortions has been telling. The old tricks of the abortion lobby have been dragged out to avoid much needed consideration of the implementation of abortion in Australia – these tricks include undermining men who do not agree with their position (playing the exhausted misogyny card), assuming they represent all women and avoiding the issue at hand – in this case, sex selection.

What many don't know is that internationally, millions and millions of baby girls are, in fact, being killed in the womb and after birth…just for being girls!

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp... ***

This isn't fair, is it?

***India to jail families who coerce women into abortions
Entire families of women who abort a female foetus could be jailed for up to seven years under an Indian government move to ease the pressure for male children.

The initiative is an attempt to halt the growing gender imbalance in India where girls are considered a financial burden and families fear the cost of paying illegal but common dowries when they marry.

Campaigners believe upto eight million unborn girls were aborted in India in the last decade, while UN figures show that female infants are twice as likely to die in India before the age of five. The number of girls born per thousand boys has declined from 976 in 1961 to 914 in 2011, according to census statistics.

Current laws to prevent 'sex selection' and female feticide, clinic doctors who perform the operations or the ultrasound tests to determine whether the sex of the foetus face punishments ranging from a 1000 Rupee fine (£12) to three years imprisonment.

But in the last ten years only 463 people have been prosecuted and the government's Ministry for Women and Child Development wants to turn the focus on the family networks which put pressure on women to abort unborn girls.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asi... ***

Why shouldn't they be able to find out what sex they are having and kill their baby girls? What use are daughters to poor families who have to rely on their children to support them?

Too bad that many male villagers will never marry and have their own families to care for them ~ why care about the life of your child when you have yourself to consider?

***
Bridge over Guangfu river, Shandong province, China (30 March 2010)
The bodies were found by residents on the bank of a river

Two hospital workers have been arrested in eastern China after the bodies of 21 babies and foetuses were found dumped on a river bank, state media reports.

Zhong Haitao, a senior official of the Jining health bureau, said the bodies could be those of aborted foetuses or of babies who died at the hospital.

Abortions are common in China, partly due to the one-child policy. Cremation can also be prohibitively expensive for poor families.

Local residents have expressed concern that drinking water supplies could have been contaminated by the dumping.

But the authorities said the river was not a source of drinking water and was not contaminated.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/85963... ***

Yeah, abortion is great, I can fully understand why you agree and promote it in your postings. Not.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#496509 Mar 1, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
>>>Serah<<<
Just in case I miss you...
>>>HUGS<<<
You must be an avid reader and with a wealth of imfo!
Now...
I need a month.
I stutter, stumble, battle, and plow my way thru but it's a good read. And even this I needed a spell check for!
>>>smile<<<
Thank you xx
LOL.... GOD gave me a mind that doesn't appear to stop!! Thankfully I work with figures.... haha, good old maths and formulas are solid and reliable, but words, I must admit, are magical :)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#496510 Mar 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna go out on a limb here & guess that you choose to NOT have an abortion....
That is your right. But I don't believe it's your right to tell other women that they can't.
I agree; none of us have the right to really tell anyone what they can or can't do, unless it breaks man(kinds) law. If you saw a speeding hoon (that's what we call them down here, hoon drivers, and if they are caught dropping wheelies and doing too much over the speed limit, they impound their car) would you feel you had the right to tell them to stop speeding, they might kill someone? Or a drink driver or some such similar?

Or would you just let them speed through the side streets without a care in the world?

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#496511 Mar 1, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
You have all FAILED, and quite miserably so if I might add, to address one specific question I asked because you all know you're dodging the proper issue.
As we all know, the gays and the supporters of the gays say that once sex is between consenting adults, then it is fine, ok and good. This is one of the chief arguments they use when they attempt legitimize gay sex (homosexuality). They also say for this reason it must be viewed as moral and natural behavior.
So I asked and still ask to this day; if an father and his adult boy or mother and her adult daughter or two adult borthers or sisters or adult male or female cousins have sex, is it ok? This would certainly be homosexual behavior but though being close relatives, also consenting adults.
So please provide answers. This will determine the whole gay controversy that sprung up in this thread and put this argument to well deserved rest.
I look forward to concise and honest answers from all who are willing to challenge Gay Incest among Consenting Adults, or Incest (in general) between consenting adults.
Counter_Strike.
.. incest avoidance springs from the hereditary epigenetic rule ..

".. anthropological research has refined it as follows: when a boy and girl are brought together before one or the other is 30 months of age, and then the pair are raised in proximity (they use the same potty, so to speak), they are later devoid of sexual interest in each other .. "

http://www.naturalism.org/OffSite_Stored_Page...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496512 Mar 1, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>What are your pro-choice ideals on aborting for gender selection?
***"Feminist is as feminist does" was twittered some time ago by the President of Reproductive Choice Australia, Leslie Cannold… I agree, but in contrast to Ms Cannold consider that abortion has no place in true feminism, as it is "a reflection that the needs of women are not being met". What feminists fail to do also speaks volumes.
The reaction to Senator John Madigan preparing a bill, to remove federal funding for sex selection abortions has been telling. The old tricks of the abortion lobby have been dragged out to avoid much needed consideration of the implementation of abortion in Australia – these tricks include undermining men who do not agree with their position (playing the exhausted misogyny card), assuming they represent all women and avoiding the issue at hand – in this case, sex selection.
What many don't know is that internationally, millions and millions of baby girls are, in fact, being killed in the womb and after birth…just for being girls!
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp... ***
This isn't fair, is it?
***India to jail families who coerce women into abortions
Entire families of women who abort a female foetus could be jailed for up to seven years under an Indian government move to ease the pressure for male children.
The initiative is an attempt to halt the growing gender imbalance in India where girls are considered a financial burden and families fear the cost of paying illegal but common dowries when they marry.
Campaigners believe upto eight million unborn girls were aborted in India in the last decade, while UN figures show that female infants are twice as likely to die in India before the age of five. The number of girls born per thousand boys has declined from 976 in 1961 to 914 in 2011, according to census statistics.
Current laws to prevent 'sex selection' and female feticide, clinic doctors who perform the operations or the ultrasound tests to determine whether the sex of the foetus face punishments ranging from a 1000 Rupee fine (£12) to three years imprisonment.
But in the last ten years only 463 people have been prosecuted and the government's Ministry for Women and Child Development wants to turn the focus on the family networks which put pressure on women to abort unborn girls.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asi... ***
Why shouldn't they be able to find out what sex they are having and kill their baby girls? What use are daughters to poor families who have to rely on their children to support them?
Too bad that many male villagers will never marry and have their own families to care for them ~ why care about the life of your child when you have yourself to consider?
***
Bridge over Guangfu river, Shandong province, China (30 March 2010)
The bodies were found by residents on the bank of a river
Two hospital workers have been arrested in eastern China after the bodies of 21 babies and foetuses were found dumped on a river bank, state media reports.
Zhong Haitao, a senior official of the Jining health bureau, said the bodies could be those of aborted foetuses or of babies who died at the hospital.
Abortions are common in China, partly due to the one-child policy. Cremation can also be prohibitively expensive for poor families.
Local residents have expressed concern that drinking water supplies could have been contaminated by the dumping.
But the authorities said the river was not a source of drinking water and was not contaminated.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/85963... ***
Yeah, abortion is great, I can fully understand why you agree and promote it in your postings. Not.
I really don't care what they do in China or India. They're a bunch of backwards people anyways.

"Thank you for calling customer support"
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#496513 Mar 1, 2013
Serah wrote:
Sorry ~ doubled up on the posting as I thought it got lost in cyber space..... please ignore :)
Mine doe that sometimes too.

I think it goes in the 'twilight zone, lol

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#496514 Mar 1, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
Agreed. Except, question here; looking at it the other way around, do you believe a muslim is required to stand for the national anthem?
There is no law saying a person, or citizen of the United States has to stand for the National Anthem.
Counter_Strike wrote:
Should a Jew, Messianic Jew or any member of any Hebraic Faith be asked not to wear a Tallit (as some would say, prayer shawl) in a courthouse or in any public institution?
As long as there are no security requirements/laws in place that prohibit the wearing of the garment, no, also, say for a drivers license, I think it should be removed for the picture, since that is an identification implement or document as well
Counter_Strike wrote:
Understood, but do you not agree than options should be available somewhat?
Do I think foods that meet a religious mandate should be provided by state or govt. institutions or any such expenditure should be made to accommodate religious beliefs by the U,S govt? No.
Counter_Strike wrote:
Well said. Not everyone here though would appreciate your sentiments.
I'm not sure what you mean, maybe I should clarify. A person is entitled to pray, as an individual. I do not think that includes interrupting a workplace, or cessation of work for a religious requirement, etc. I don't think religious displays should be funded by taxpayer monies, or that religious displays should be able to be placed on public lands. Maybe you should specify what you do think it means and then further discussion may be warranted.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#496515 Mar 1, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
Again, you tread of very thin ice here and you are about to fall into sub-zero degree water Mr. Ritual. What then be the explanation as to why homosexuals are far less in number globally than heterosexuals? You can't compare skin color or eye color because they exists in more wide spread variations globally.
Red haired people or "red heads" are represented proportionately less than other groups of humans. So are the Japanese, for that matter. Cherokee Aboriginal Americans, Inuits, etc, would also satisfy that same lesser proportion you pointed out above. The Constitution is designed to protect the rights of the individual, and individuals make up groups.
Counter_Strike wrote:
For far too long when we hear the issue of homosexuality come up, then someone finds it expedient to introduce the race argument into the conversation. I do not agree with this, and I'm sure I'm not alone with this feeling.
Yeah, you don't have to agree with it. Agreement is not a provision of the Constitution, in many areas.
Counter_Strike wrote:
What is it that you're getting at here Mr. Ritual. Please, if you don't mind too much, I would like to exchange words served to proper purpose and your explanation tabled.
Counter_Strike.
I was clear in what I outlined. Maybe you should be more specific in what you are asking - "what is it you're getting at" - is vague and essentially places me in the position of having to read your mind.

I can't do that.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496516 Mar 1, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. That's what I was saying. "Children of Israel" refers to the twelve tribes of Israel. So only Jews aren't allowed to be gay, and even then it's only men.
;)
Well, that's not true, "only Jews aren't allowed to be gay". There are several other passages in the bible that talks about homosexuality, most notably the 7th Commanment...

But you are correct about the "Children of Israel" & the twelve tribes.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#496517 Mar 1, 2013
oops, what good timing, lol!

I did not mean to do that

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe

#496518 Mar 1, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
I know...
But one cannot please even you who has borders.
So THAT is the best you can do get out of getting caught in your deceit of using Doctor's Without Borders to prove how great your evil Christianity is? When they have NOTHING to do with your religion.

Lame.

Why can't you just admit that you lied?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#496519 Mar 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You seem to be under the impression that Christians are at war with Humanists, or vice versa. Why?
War only in metaphor, as in "culture war."
RiversideRedneck wrote:
What is it that you fear so much about Christians?
Nothing. What makes you think that my contempt has anything to do with fear?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
the many, many churches I have attended never said anything about gays & atheists.
Read their manual.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Have I ever tried to convert you?
Have I ever told you you're going to hell?
Have I ever told you I'll pray for you?
My interest in this matter extends beyond what you do.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Your lil chicken-on-a-stick doesn't scare me.
You wouldn't believe how many people are scared senseless into worshiping it.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#496520 Mar 1, 2013
simplyput wrote:
oops, what good timing, lol!
I did not mean to do that
oh thought it double posted.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496521 Mar 1, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I agree; none of us have the right to really tell anyone what they can or can't do, unless it breaks man(kinds) law. If you saw a speeding hoon (that's what we call them down here, hoon drivers, and if they are caught dropping wheelies and doing too much over the speed limit, they impound their car) would you feel you had the right to tell them to stop speeding, they might kill someone? Or a drink driver or some such similar?
Or would you just let them speed through the side streets without a care in the world?
Interesting point.

The first argument would be to say that those laws are meant to protect other people, but then the rebuttal would be that fetuses are "other people" also & need laws to protect them.

So then the next argument is that the speeders, drunk drivers are unsafe to innocent would-be victims, the rebuttal to that would be that fetuses are also would-be innocent victims.

I feel that the Constitution prevents abortions from being unlawful, as every citizen has a right to life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness. A fetus isn't a citizen & therefore has no rights yet. The mother is a citizen and perhaps having a child would negate her dreams or pursuits.

Now that in no way means I think people should whore around frivolously with no cares of getting pregnant or not, they should! Little slut club girl should have condones with her before hitting the clubs.

I know that abortions can be very cruel & very saddening. But I feel that sometimes you have to suck it up and let people enjoy freedoms - even if you disagree.

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