“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#496023 Feb 28, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure how else to explain it except that removing the criminal from society is an act of love toward those offended.
So this omnipotent God does nothing for the offender? Isn't everyone an offender according to Christianity? Makes no sense.
As I quoted, Peter explained that not only was Noah instructed to build an ark, but that he also preached to the people, to warn them.
How did Noah warn people all over the world? Or was God only concerned with those in his immediate area?
And that's the issue. "God" created us. And with that, we were given a law. And with the law, we were given both, blessings and curses, for obedience and disobedience.
Well, according to the Bible, God gave laws that God later found inadequate. Isn't that rather inconsistent?
This might remain a mystery to us, but apparently, the more "unclean" we become, the more "unclean" our Earth becomes, because of our presence.
Sure doesn't say much about the quality of God's creation, does it?
Two issues, here. The first is that they became "unclean," too. The second is that the chances were extremely high that they were only going to continue on the same path as those before them. If none were righteous, except for Noah and his family, then how would they learn righteousness?
So it's like "Minority Report"? Come on, how can fetuses and babies become unclean? They haven't had any opportunity. And how is it Noah and his family were the sole exception on the entire Earth? Doesn't that seem a bit unlikely? Especially given Noah's erratic behavior after they got off the ark (the curse of Ham etc).
As you know, he left a remnant. And He didn't know that man would fail. He had hoped man wouldn't. But, again, with the law came blessings and curses, for obedience and disobedience.
I wonder what else God has no clue about.
Not necessarily so. As it's written, man became like our heavenly host by learning both, good and evil.
And why was that such a terrible thing that God chose to curse every subsequent generation? Isn't this one of the first lessons of the Bible: seeking knowledge is the ultimate evil?
"God's" love is available to all that wants it.
Except offenders?
He's not going to force love from us. But, He also can't allow those that have no respect for life to continue. If anything, though, "God" is more concerned with our love for one another than He is for our love toward Him.
That is absolutely untrue, according to the Bible. What is the only sin that is never forgiven? It's not anything that one human can do to another, it's denying the Holy Spirit. Humans can commit any number of atrocities, and as long as they honestly repent later, God gives them a pass. So much for concern about the victims. All God seems to care about is itself.
After the great day of Judgment. If I'm right, all that's ever lived and died before Messiah was crucified, or never had an opportunity to learn of Messiah, will be resurrected and allowed the chance to repent, so forth and so on. For those that don't, they'll be forever destroyed. Not tortured in some fiery hell, as even hell is going to be destroyed. Just destroyed.
That's interesting. I've never heard of the idea that Hell itself would be destroyed. Is that in Revelation?

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#496024 Feb 28, 2013
Pilgrim_ wrote:
February 27, 2013
Jer 18:18-20
The people of Judah and the citizens of Jerusalem said,
“Come, let us contrive a plot against Jeremiah.
It will not mean the loss of instruction from the priests,
nor of counsel from the wise, nor of messages from the prophets.
And so, let us destroy him by his own tongue;
let us carefully note his every word.”
Heed me, O LORD,
and listen to what my adversaries say.
Must good be repaid with evil
that they should dig a pit to take my life?
Remember that I stood before you
to speak in their behalf,
to turn away your wrath from them.
Praise God. At that time, when the people of Israel & Judah were in rebellion against the Lord... they simply hated the true prophets because their word wasn't what they wanted to hear. Because of their rebellion it was a word of doom and gloom. Actually, it was simply a warning(s) from the Lord. But because they did not want to heed to The Lord they decided to make God in their own image So they set themselves up with many false prophets, that is, people who would tell them everything they wanted to hear. God gave them time to repent and the next generations. Warnings in the course from other previous prophets, and from Isaiah to Jeremiah (about 176 years)... They didn't repent so Lamentations is the fulfilment of God's Judgement.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#496025 Feb 28, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>My Brother is gay also..... and I love him. Why do you think you are the only one involved in the flipping non stop gay debate? And why do you think tossing insults at Fathers is helping the issue?
I'm curious. I often ask Christians who believe that homosexuality is a sin what the rationale for that would be. For the most part they either say it's simply what the Bible says (i.e., no rationale) or something to do with procreation, which would seem to also cast a pall on those who don't or can't have children. Do you have any rationale as to why the Bible would condemn homosexuality?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#496026 Feb 28, 2013
Pilgrim_ wrote:
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
Matthew 18:6
Many people say that teaching young children such things as the terrorism of hell theology, the guilt of a dysfunctional attitude toward sex, and a radical nihilism for this life is child abuse.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#496027 Feb 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I would be willing to make an exception to the Establishment Clause and allow them to do it on public property using state supplied snakes. In fact, only people that have successfully handled a snake should be allowed to carry currency that says "In God We Trust"
LOL! Brilliant. Because, well, they did trust exactly what the Bible said, didn't they? Although to be fair, the Bible also says that one should not test God, and intentionally poisoning yourself to make a point would seem to violate that.

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#496028 Feb 28, 2013
@ Pilgrim:

Jeremiah: "Then the word of the Lord came to me:

9 “This is what the Lord says:‘In the same way I will ruin the pride of Judah and the great pride of Jerusalem.

10 These wicked people, who refuse to listen to my words, who follow the stubbornness of their hearts and go after other gods to serve and worship them, will be like this belt—completely useless!

11 For as a belt is bound around a man’s waist, so I bound the whole house of Israel and the whole house of Judah to me,’ declares the Lord,‘to be my people for my renown and praise and honor. But they have not listened.’

++++++++++

Jeremiah 13:1-11

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496029 Feb 28, 2013
scaritual wrote:
BTW, I don't claim I know there isn't a god or aren't gods.
I thought you were an atheist, I didn't think you were agnostic....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496030 Feb 28, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm pretty sure knowledge of our language and the use of a dictionary is something normal people are capable of and do. That's normal.
With such a self-proclaimed knowledge of the english language, one would know the difference between a church & the church....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496031 Feb 28, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
your words are not valid anywhere
what you said,nobody cares
Awesome!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496032 Feb 28, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought to most Christians that the "church" was the body of believers...not a building.
Dipstick ;-)
Oh stop it.

You know you don't think.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#496033 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
So this omnipotent God does nothing for the offender? Isn't everyone an offender according to Christianity? Makes no sense.
It makes no sense to you because you don't bother trying to understand. All you do is mock.

God allows is free will, if He "did something for the offender", He'd be disturbing that free will.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#496034 Feb 28, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
I forgive anyone, given enough time. I shouldn't, but I do. Ok, I'm lying. I don't. It sounded nice when I said it, though.
:)
I don't. Some things are better not forgiven.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#496035 Feb 28, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
.
Dipstick
LMAO..........What the hell??????

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#496036 Feb 28, 2013
@ Pilgrim (1 more) I Kings chapter 22 (the whole chapter...priceless):

"The king of Israel answered Jehoshaphat,“There is still one man through whom we can inquire of the Lord, but I hate him because he never prophesies anything good about me, but always bad. He is Micaiah son of Imlah.”

==========

Also... Jeremiah chapter 37. Being a prophet of the Lord in that time has been romanticized but it actually was a deadly occupation of sorts. It got so bad in Jeremiah's time he actually said that he wasn't going to speak the Word of the Lord anymore... but couldn't help it because the Word was like fire in his bones (as an euphemism)...

++++++++++

Jesus: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing."

Since: Feb 13

Franklin, GA

#496037 Feb 28, 2013
I am grateful someone thought enough of me to share the story of calvary. It has changed my life for the better! Now I endeavor to tell someone else!

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#496038 Feb 28, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> (Lending without Interest) That is what I do. Without condition.
Some would not take it as a gift.
True that.

Since: Feb 13

Franklin, GA

#496039 Feb 28, 2013
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“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#496040 Feb 28, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>I seek the acceptence of no one but Christ Jesus.
Praise God.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#496043 Feb 28, 2013
concerta wrote:
I am grateful someone thought enough of me to share the story of calvary....
Custer's last stand ?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#496044 Feb 28, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO..........What the hell??????
LOL

1. A graduated rod for measuring the depth or amount of liquid in a container, as of oil in a crankcase.
2. Slang A person regarded as foolish or contemptible.

I'm gonna let RR pick whatever definition he thinks is applicable to him!

I have always liked that word...it says so much in just two syllables.:-)

When I was a little girl growing up we had this long stick that we would put in to the cistern to see how much water we had left...I loved that "dipstick".

I used to call my grandson "dipstick" when he did something really silly. One day I called one of the other kids a "dipstick" and my grandson broke out in tears. When I asked him why he was crying..."My name is dipstick...you can't call him a dipstick". It is a name of endearment between the two of us.

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