Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Mar 09

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#495657 Feb 27, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yeah, what about ole RR?
Are you going to take a position on Counter_Strike's statements that homosexuals are perverted?
Or will you cower, like most of the Christians on this thread?
You stand by and not only ignore bigotry all day but you defend it and those engaging in it

Always the hypocrite eh Catcher?

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#495658 Feb 27, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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You cut out almost my entire post that had to do with your bigoted claims Christians have no credibility when it comes to speaking out against child-abuse. I understand why you left it out and deleted everything but this. It just make you look foolish. Bigotry tends to do that. You may figure it out some day
More paranoia.

Since: Oct 12

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#495659 Feb 27, 2013
That the trial of your faith being much more precious than of gold that perisheth though it be tried with fire might be found unto praise and honour and glory at appearing of Jesus Christ.

Unto you therefore which believe he is precious but unto them which be disobedient the stone which the builders disallowed the same is made the head of the corner.

Likewise ye husbands dwell with them according to knowledge giving honour unto the wife as unto the weaker vessel and as being heirs together of the grace of life that your prayers be not hindered.

But the end of all things is at hand be ye therefore sober and watch unto prayer.

Casting all your care upon him for he careth for you.

Since: Mar 09

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#495660 Feb 27, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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This also reminded me of a flat out racist I worked with. He would often say typical n when a black person would speak. No excuse for it and its beyond sad when a person that claims to be above it isn't.
Typical, atypical, "like most", etc

All terms people use to compartmentalize in their head while staying true to their bigotry

A normal person when meeting someone from a group that they have had set views about while not actually knowing many of them will generally take time to wonder why the experience was so different than what they expected. That seed is the one that starts the process which allows someone to see their preconceived notions were either rooted in bigotry or fear or ignorance or all three

For an honest person life-experience shatters the illusions

For a dishonest one he says that is the "exception" and goes back to hating

People are people, some good, some bad. Some stand for bad things, some stand for good things. The only way we will ever know in most cases is to get to know them

(T) Peace

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#495661 Feb 27, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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There are those "humanist" ethics again
Congrats
You are the first one to bring a family member into an insult
He has nothing. If I've learned anything from topix time its not to take the bait. I really do feel sorry for him though. Take care, Gods love.

Since: Mar 09

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#495662 Feb 27, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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More paranoia.
You have stating the truth confused with paranoia

I understand, its because you are stupid

You will probably think that was aparanoid statement

Why I worry about you being stupid is anybody's guess

:)

Since: Mar 09

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#495663 Feb 27, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Catcher is not poor.
You are where it matters most

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#495664 Feb 27, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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God's Love, Jesus' Love and Christian Love are rarely the same thing and usually far away from the common uses of the word "love".
Somehow I don;t see how drowing babies is an act of love.
I guess Hitler really loved Jews. He was such a loving Christian.
Seriously. Love has no meaning if it's connected to the actions attributed to God in the Bible.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#495665 Feb 27, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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There are those "humanist" ethics again
Congrats
You are the first one to bring a family member into an insult
Clearwater repeatedly discusses his wife's former life as a lesbian. He introduced her to all of us. I didn't bring her in, he did. I'm just stating my belief, based on what he has said, that she is a closeted lesbian.

Nor is it an insult to identify somebody as a lesbian, unless you think, like Clearwater and Counter_Strike and Adam and Trifecta and Q, that there's something wrong with homosexuality.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#495666 Feb 27, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Thanks. Great song, great rendition.
So, you used to perform on electric guitar? Good fun, huh?
Our last gig was 2004. We simply put it down completely since. I haven't held a guitar for a total of two hours in nine years until this month. I just set up the gear again.
My wife dusted off her bass on Monday. She was practicing two songs yesterday. I think we're close to bringing it back again, and taking it to the local clubs and bistros. This will shock the hell out of our friends, who really have never known us as musicians.
Thanks for sharing. Life is good.
Ya. It was filled with great times and some not so great.
Woke up one morning 'bout 5 years or so after Stevie Ray died and the fingers didn't all work anymore on the neckwork...brain was fine...fingers revolted. Hurt my feel'ns too. Stuck with a keyboard now...jist don't cut it, if ya know what I mean.
Good luck with the new venture. Folks love the old blues an stuff in the clubs. They'll still turn the juke off if someone will git up an pick...even solo.

Since: Mar 09

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#495667 Feb 27, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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He has nothing. If I've learned anything from topix time its not to take the bait. I really do feel sorry for him though. Take care, Gods love.
Smart move

People try to drag others down into the hole they are in

(a good Bob Dylan song about that btw)

(T) Peace brother

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#495668 Feb 27, 2013
>>>Skom<<<
Our G'day mate!
Do you know this one???

Nick Cave - Red Right Hand

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#495669 Feb 27, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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You stand by and not only ignore bigotry all day but you defend it and those engaging in it
Always the hypocrite eh Catcher?
You continue to stalk me when I don't post to you and you reply to my post which was for somebody else and why are you so obsessed with me, besides your lies and your hypocrisy you are about the worst one for that and I'm not going to discuss this further unless I decide to change my mind on this personal decision because everyone can see that I did not give my word which I will keep if I do

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#495670 Feb 27, 2013
People are awesome..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Mar 09

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#495671 Feb 27, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Clearwater repeatedly discusses his wife's former life as a lesbian. He introduced her to all of us. I didn't bring her in, he did. I'm just stating my belief, based on what he has said, that she is a closeted lesbian.
Nor is it an insult to identify somebody as a lesbian, unless you think, like Clearwater and Counter_Strike and Adam and Trifecta and Q, that there's something wrong with homosexuality.
Dress it up however you like because in hindsight you know it was a crappy thing to do

You made that post to him because you wanted it to bother him

Why would his wife need to re-emerge as anything?

She is not a lesbian and your denials about the intent of your post just makes it that much easier to show you for liar you are

It comes so easy to you doesn't it?

Since: Mar 09

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#495672 Feb 27, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
>>>Skom<<<
Our G'day mate!
Do you know this one???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =AsTdjMOJ-xQXX
Nick Cave - Red Right Hand
PW!

What's up sister?

Thx, No I have not heard of it before but I will check it out

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

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#495673 Feb 27, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You continue to stalk me when I don't post to you and you reply to my post which was for somebody else and why are you so obsessed with me, besides your lies and your hypocrisy you are about the worst one for that and I'm not going to discuss this further unless I decide to change my mind on this personal decision because everyone can see that I did not give my word which I will keep if I do
LOL

Stupid people have to resort to stupid tactics

Let me know when anything you said actually applies!

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#495674 Feb 27, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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BTW Is this our first disagreement...should we start bashing each other now?
Would you mind if we wait until after lunch...I need to take the dog out...
In the mean time...I will make a list of names that I want to call you. How do you feel about...doofus? If that is a little strong just let me know...I'll take it easy on you the first day.
Here you go Annie..........

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#495675 Feb 27, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Good morning HL...
I think you are right...
So...
I think I shall return to what brings me peace...
Earth, Teach Me
Earth teach me quiet ~ as the grasses are still with new light.
Earth teach me suffering ~ as old stones suffer with memory.
Earth teach me humility ~ as blossoms are humble with beginning.
Earth teach me caring ~ as mothers nurture their young.
Earth teach me courage ~ as the tree that stands alone.
Earth teach me limitation ~ as the ant that crawls on the ground.
Earth teach me freedom ~ as the eagle that soars in the sky.
Earth teach me acceptance ~ as the leaves that die each fall.
Earth teach me renewal ~ as the seed that rises in the spring.
Earth teach me to forget myself ~ as melted snow forgets its life.
Earth teach me to remember kindness ~ as dry fields weep with rain.
An Ute Prayer
The Web
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.
Chief Seattle, 1854
HOPA

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#495676 Feb 27, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Such punishments might not be perceived as an act of love, but they are-- toward the rest of society.
OK, but I still don't see how that example would apply to God. Is God as limited as a human organization responsible for civic order? No, of course not. God supposedly has unlimited/nearly unlimited powers. God is also supposedly loving. So then logically God should chose the most benevolent solution to a problem. Surely global genocide was not the most benevolent solution available.
The scriptures don't give us details, but it does say that "the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." But, as to your question, there's no mention of it. Most likely, bestiality became an issue, too.
Bestiality? And that is the animals fault? And with every single member of every single species, including plants? Mmmmm....I don't think so. Moreover, back to humans for a moment, is it likely that babies and fetuses were also purely and irredeemably evil?

And that seems to be another point of this story too. God not only seems incapable of predicting the consequences of it's actions (i.e., God had no idea what would become of creation when it created it, and never saw this day coming), but the only way to overcome evil was to snuff the whole living being out. No attempt to dissuade humans from evil is mentioned (never mind animals and plants). Apparently evil is as powerful if not more so than God, which seems to further reduce God's power.
In regards to the account and toward those punished, no. But, toward those offended, yes. And as to the term "love" losing it's definition and luster, that happened a long, long time ago as we've become increasingly desensitized to it's definition and purpose. The term is just that, now; a term. "Love," for the most part, has been diminished to just a term that we abuse in order to get what we desire most. "Love," in many ways, no longer serves as a verb. There's hardly anything any more that distinguishes between the love for a "loved-one" and a favorite song. Today, people invent and live according to their own definition(s) of love.
So what does love mean, according to the Bible? And is God consistently loving by that definition or not? Because you seem to imply God is not consistent with love, only showing it to a select few. At what point does one become the "punished" and all of God's love is permanently withdrawn?

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