Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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Hey Skombolis,
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And I didn’t really notice the gender role. I guess when I’m trying to catch up I rush too much and miss a lot.
Don't worry, you aren't really missing much at at all:)

Glad to see ya!

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Skombolis wrote:
Define 'church'... I simply want to know who you are accusing when you say 'church' and what you base it on
That appears to be impossible. I cannot explain calculus to an ant either.

And nope, I'm not going to continue to define "church" to you any more.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
Not to me it doesn't, but I don't believe in sin or the fall of man. I'm not a Christian. I believe that man is not a complete failure and utter failure born fit for eternal punishment for the crime of being human. That's a Christian position, as you can see here:

[1] Brother Lee Love wrote, "It seems, to me, that as this world hurls into chaos and destruction, that everyone seems to be waiting for someone, or something, to remedy the world's problems."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

Christianity teaches that human flesh is failure.
Perhaps you haven't heard, but I'm not affiliated with any denomination of Christendom. And because of this, I don't believe that "sin" is in our DNA, or natural in us. Secondly, that's not what I was saying, at all, in the post you quoted. I was merely sharing an observation. This world, whether we wish to accept it or not, is on a downward spiral into total chaos and destruction. But, does this mean that I believe that people think, act, react, and speak the way we do because we're incapable of restraint, or positive action? Of course not. And if you must know, I'm the first person to tell others not to hinder their development and progression. I believe that every person is capable of becoming a god, as it's written in scripture. In conclusion, I don't believe we, as people, are failures simply because we're flesh and blood. I believe we're failures because of how we, as humans, think, act, react, and speak. It's not "sin" to be human.

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River Tam wrote:
I rarely click on youtube links

I am glad i did for that

Great song

And I understand where you are coming from, that's cool. Not making an over judgement, just focusing on some recent things and how they were handled

In keeping with the theme here is one you will probably like

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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<quoted text>You may be assumimg a little much, the one That I'm ultimately concerned about sinning is myself, the Bible does warn us TO save ourselves and we do that by taking on Christ Jesus unto ourselves.
I happen to agree with you but I am not a Christian. Why do you think other Christians are so worried about the sins of others ? Maybe they are afraid they will be tempted into sin ?

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Serah wrote:
There are other sites; I posted one myself a few weeks ago where a woman had been burned to death in New Guinea for being a witch, and up to 20 people had beaten and tortured her before burning her.
It was the same post that I mentioned what GOD must suffer at the hands of HIS Children, or something similar, but

to blame Christians is ridiculous.
Not to the non-Christian world, only to other Christians. It's not only very Christian to burn witches wherever it is legal, it's also very Christian to try to distance Christianity from it afterwards. Ask Christians about the Salem witch trials.

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That appears to be impossible. I cannot explain calculus to an ant either.
And nope, I'm not going to continue to define "church" to you any more.
Yes I am sure your bigotry would be so over my head LOL

Don't worry, despite your self-aggrandizing you are just a double-board certified bigot to me

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Skombolis wrote:
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I am not asking you to do anything except give the page number
You apparently had no problem scanning the page and emailing it to me so whatever you invented objections are now make no sense.
If you had the page number to give you would have provided it
Instead you have made 5 posts all with different reasons and deflections why you can't simply provide the page number of a quote you gave that you were willing to scan and email
That makes no sense if you are telling the truth
This has nothing to do with me hurting people or being paranoid or whatever other excuse you want to make. If you had no problem scanning and emailing it then there is no reason you shouldn't be able to just give the page number
Do you really think these tactics aren't transparent?
I have seen the lengths you will go to not to admit you are wrong. Including even saying you would rather have a doctor that doesn't care about you and equating a doctor that cares about his patients to meaning his must be physically touchy-feely
It is so much easier to just be honest. You may figure that out at some point
.. you took me seriously about scanning the page ??..

.. no explanation is good enough for you. I have explained to you what church means to me. It wasn't good enough. AIN explained what church meant to him. His explanation wasn't good enough ..

.. because I refuse to adhere to your Topix game rules, you have concluded I am a lying hypocrite. So be it ..

.. seek help. We're done ..

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Not to me it doesn't, but I don't believe in sin or the fall of man. I'm not a Christian. I believe that man is not a complete failure and utter failure born fit for eternal punishment for the crime of being human. That's a Christian position, as you can see here:
[1] Brother Lee Love wrote, "It seems, to me, that as this world hurls into chaos and destruction, that everyone seems to be waiting for someone, or something, to remedy the world's problems."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
[2] Counter_Strike wrote: "We are flawed emotional beings prone to err, lust and greed."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
[3] lil whiskas wrote :
"I fully realize mankind is a total failure"
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
[4] IANS wrote to Dim: "can you rebut the claim that Christianity teaches a very negative attitude about mankind and the world, as well as teaching dependency on the god to be rescued from all of that? You don't seem to have even tried." followed by Dim not even trying.
Christianity teaches that human flesh is failure.
Either do I. I believe we are all part of a neverending continuum of the essence of energy...no depreciated to the attributes of man deity that punishes or rewards upon selfish demands or humanisticaly attributed anger. We ARE the ALL/IAM, and the ALL/IAM is us-and everything you can imagine and see is included in the equation of ALL. Anything less is archaic supposition which depreciates the actuality of the ALL.

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Skombolis wrote:
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I rarely click on youtube links
I am glad i did for that
Great song
And I understand where you are coming from, that's cool. Not making an over judgement, just focusing on some recent things and how they were handled
In keeping with the theme here is one you will probably like
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I love the Guess Who. I was born in Korea. It's a Canadian band. My diversity is amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

:-)

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scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> I keep a list of this available. I have a more comprehensive and detailed list...*somewhere*, but I've obviously saved it somewhere other than my .txt file folder. It's floating around on topix somewhere.
Anyway...
The stories and videos below are graphic.
"African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/18/afri...
"Deadly hunt for 'witches' haunts Kenya villagers"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/06/12/ke...
"Witchcraft burning in kisii"
http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!
"Minister blames loss on witchcraft"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"Horror of Kenya's 'witch' lynchings"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8119201.stm
"The Christians are Burning Witches (Again)"
http://jasonstotts.com/2009/10/the-christians...
[CNN] Kenya: "Witch Hunts" follow in wake of ethnic violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"The Religious in Africa burning suspected witches"
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
"Christian missionaries behind Soumya's murder"
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...
"More African Churches are dealing with the troubling problem of Christian pastors torturing and executing “witch children” in the name of their faith."
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/african-past...
If you look at some of those, you'll notice they throw rocks from time to time, too.
Nothing like a good stoning~/.
Thanks. I've added these to my files.
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Le_le wrote:
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Thank you for the kind words Sora.
I do enjoy reading your's and Seraphine's posts..You bring much kindness and wisdom..
Not sure if you say anything of good value to the "nay sayers"
they will listen anyways..
Think we have reached a place where many believers want to control God and other's destiny concerning God.
They put Him in a box tie it up securely and write on the cover-
"mine, all mine"..
They worry about their own Salvation and storing up treasures for
themselves in Heaven.
I do not believe this is what Christ intended for His people..
I hope you and Seraphine do not get too discouraged here..It
is nice to be agreed with at times..
:)
Up hill battle for sure- but well worth it..
Thank you again..
Bonsoir Madame Le_Le we are often told that many enjoy reading our posts doe the feelings that are created and for the wisdom presented. We are Christian (Catholic of course) and we are Classically trained Humanists as well we are Christian Humanists. Even the naysayers appreciate our ability to disagree without being disagreeable and we are not the type to prothelytize we do not believe in it we believe our actions shall speak for themselves. God is bigger than our petty and selfish desires my dear, if you want people to accept your religion then you must practice what you preach it is that simple. Yes, many do place God in a box I have noticed it among Conservative Christians in general in my humble opinion. Seraphine and I believe that salvation is Universal. We are not discouraged, nor are we dissapointed we also like speaking to you as well. Christ did not intend this but here we are and the question is shall we allow this to continue, shall we allow the name of Christ to be tarnished? He was the ultimate Humanist Madame Le_Le. We must be too all of us here.

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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> You shouldn't be lost. Remember what I posted a long time ago about the ALL?
.. still lost. Sorry, can't remember, but, please understand - I'm under the influence ..

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Skombolis wrote:
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Subtle is the way of the Senacus. They often live directly on the outskirts of civilization. Rarely seen but always watching.
All right I am giving up trying to sound like a History Channel show!
Sorry, the topic put the idea into my head and it seemed like fun at first. Now not so much! LOL
I was curious to what he was saying
:)
History Channel?.... I thought more like Animal Planet :)

Hello Steve,

I could have a lot of fun with this , but don't want it to be misconstrued(by any)...

Really ,as to 'what I was saying', just as I wrote to Lee above,and really directly to HFY ,commending one who recognises the importance of audience relevance in reading (and by extension interpreting) a text.

And BTW, this isn't my 'natural habitat'- but I'll 'swoop in' every now and then;)

You have a great weekend...

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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Serah wrote:
It is horrid ~ I don't know what else to say :(
We can always turn to our bibles for guidance:

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." - Exodus 22:18

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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The size of the quote is determined at the time of copying and pasting it out of the larger source.
Any quote out of a book, that isn't the whole book, would be partial, in regards to the book.
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Unless surrounding context changes the meaning of the selected quote, there's nothing wrong in only sharing a part of some whole. That might be one sentence out of a paragraph, or one paragraph out of a page, or one page out of a book.
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LOL
One must also realize that a small quote from a larger work can refer to a theme within a larger work. That requires that the other party be familiar with the larger work.

For example if you were talking about an insane quest that will eventually destroy you, I might simply write, "Call me Ishmael."
I have assumed you know the larger work being referenced, if not you will just think I am babbling. LOL

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<quoted text> Either do I. I believe we are all part of a neverending continuum of the essence of energy...no depreciated to the attributes of man deity that punishes or rewards upon selfish demands or humanisticaly attributed anger. We ARE the ALL/IAM, and the ALL/IAM is us-and everything you can imagine and see is included in the equation of ALL. Anything less is archaic supposition which depreciates the actuality of the ALL.
.. oh, now I remember. Thanks ..

.. I am, you are, life is ..

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Good to meet you.
I gave an answer to Sora about why I think Christian Humanism isn't as well known or as widely adopted as it should be.
I think the main reason is related to politics. Christian Conservatism is hugely influential in America and I don't think it's compatible with Christian Humanism. Fundamentalism is still pretty popular in a lot of places. Evangelistic mega churches are becoming more popular. These versions are highly aggressive and divisive.
Yeah, but Jesus loves you.

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Who is Joni Mitchell, Alex.
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Do not lie in wait O wicked man against the dwelling of the righteous

Do not destroy his resting place.

For a righteous man falls seven times and rises again.

But the wicked stumble in time of calamity.

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