Since: Jul 12

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#492359 Feb 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Catcher1 wrote:
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Unlike CS, I don't judge people and call them perverts for their sexual orientation. That is all.
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Posted 3 Hours Ago:
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.. it's not going to stop ..
Yes it will, HL. Have a little faith.

Since: Mar 09

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#492360 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
What church? I don't go to church.
Interesting. Based on his post I assumed he must have had some detailed knowledge about the church you attend to make the accusations that he made. He also blamed Brother Lee's church for teaching Lee things even though Brother Lee said he stopped going to church a long time ago and that his church had nothing to do with how he formed his opinions. It seems like to me that he uses the word 'church' so he can hate and insult Christians as a whole while claiming its not bigotry. I know you know as you pointed it out, just doing the same. Anybody should be able to see he uses 'church' as a substitute for Christians. I have found it interesting seeing the 'humanist' ethics he claims seem to be nothing more that making justifications for bigotry and hatred. He was right about one thing...we can do better...better than him

“Michin yeoja”

Since: Oct 10

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#492361 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair 'nuff.
High five?
Let's leg wrestle instead.

Just remember, I can take mine off and bash you with it (as long as I lean really far to the left).

No, my left...

Since: Mar 09

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#492362 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
IANS uses the word "church" instead of "Christian"....
He just won't admit it.
Yep

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#492363 Feb 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I remember being very very uncomfortable in church. When I wasn't feeling uncomfortable, I wasn't feeling much at all. I was zombie Tide. My mom stopped pressuring me to go to church my last two years in high school, and I used the opportunity to depart. I had friends in church so I would go to those functions where it was most beneficial and least uncomfortable. Eventually I stopped going altogether.
For several years I didn't really consider religion much at all, unless it was brought to my attention, like a joke or something in the news. Then I met a girl, and she invited me to go to church with her. I think this is when the alarms started going off in my head. I saw all the people in church in a very different way than I had in the past. So at that point, I was just in a state of shock.
Several years passed before I started putting the pieces together. I realized that I needed to evaluate my world view. At this point that was possible. There was nothing stopping me from changing my mind about everything, if that's what I wanted to do. I started paying attention.
My time here on Topix has been a big help in defining my new world view. Good ideas and good people have been forthcoming and appreciated. You were particularly helpful. I'm also delighted to say that I am far from done learning.
Hey, do you think there will be a big podium for me to stand behind?
Wow - very interesting! I suspect you are not alone with such experiences.

I'm glad topix has been helpful to you :) Yaaaaay!

Tide, you have to make your own podium. Very sorry. You can be lazy, like us, and just use topix as your podium, or you can be not lazy and start a web page, write something or go door to door :)
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#492364 Feb 22, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds good, but depending on how tired I am I still perfer sleep.
Blessings.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search...

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#492365 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
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Thank you again ~ I have popped here a link to one of my favorite sites and one I have shared with many.
http://www.indigo.org/rainbowbridge_ver2.html
.. awesome ..

CATCHER: it's short, watch it.

.. rainbows forever ..

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#492366 Feb 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I can tell when you're funny.
I hope I can tell when you're joking.
.. when River Tam enters the building, I quiver ..

.. was that a joke ??..
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#492367 Feb 22, 2013
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#492368 Feb 22, 2013
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#492369 Feb 22, 2013

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#492370 Feb 22, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>And what exactly is YOUR definition of "demeaning homosexuals"?........is it the church standing on God's Word which condemns homosexuality?......is God himself who created all men and women himself a bigot or a racist?.........too bad your eyes are so blinded, God is going to see to it that his Word goes out and accomplishes either one or two things......... to either save or condemn, but it will accomplish one or the other.
And BTW, please stop comparing black people to homosexuals as I find that highly offensive.
So do I but you should know thats exactly where its going in the name of tolerance. Its a slap in the face to so many that came before and had to deal with real racism. It is a choice to live in a way God never wanted people to live. In Romans it speaks of those that leave natural relations for unnatural ones. Say that and this sick world calls you a bigot. I say they will go to hell if they insist on staying of this damned path.
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#492371 Feb 22, 2013

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#492372 Feb 22, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
@Scaritual...you keep saying things like you think I wanted an apology and that I got upset you didnt accept mine with class. What possible reason would there be for me to be upset? I barely know you and someone being classless in accepting an apology in a reflection on them. It makes no difference to me how you wish to come off. And even though you blamed your reaction to my earlier post and disregarded your original contact with me was argumentative I not only accepted your apology for what you called having a case of the ass and even said I understood how my post could have impacted your response. Yet despite that you want to keep making some issue out of it despite a corgial exchange after.
Don't be angry. It'll be OK.
Skombolis wrote:
That doesnt surprise me since it has become a pattern for some of you to display poor ethics in your zeal to rush to IANS defense.
I'm surprised you'd consider it poor ethics to defend someone - any one - who has been portrayed inaccurately and then that inaccurate portrayal has been the basis for your argument.

No, wait, I'm not surprised.

It's been pointed out that many of the people here that you've attached to some plot against you, have stood up for Christians, atheists, agnostics, homosexuals and other minorities, numerous times, and that applies to Ians, too.

But you don't want to acknowledge that, and that's why I'm not surprised.

My ethics dictate that sometimes I must speak up, no matter if >you< don't like it, >you< do like it, or >you< would prefer nothing was said at all.
Skombolis wrote:
Again, a reflection on you not me.
I'm fine with my reflection because it is myself and purely myself.

Your reflection is Christian.
Skombolis wrote:
I am sure a pattern not lost on many in here
Isn't it good that you're exampling it for them?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#492373 Feb 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Crap!
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I mean any preference that could be determined by empirical means at the time of birth or before.
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Both.
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Opposite sex relations can produce offspring, where same sex relations do not. Something like that can be the basis for a value that opposite sex relations are "better". In some settings, where a higher population poses a problem, the opposite value may arise, that same sex relations are "better", because you don't have to worry about supporting more children than you are capable of.
Other categories may be created in much the same way, based on observation and value assignment. Even though these categories may not have clear lines of definition, they become useful.
Some cultures don't see sex and sexual contact between same sex people to be sex. They just see it as entertainment. The WHO found that out when they interviewed about sex practices and tried to spread info about STDs -'cause the WHO researchers were all confused. Words like "gay" and "homosexual" have no meaning in such places, because such people use words like "play" to describe what basically all the men do.
We are pressured by our peers to adopt the same values, or be excluded. It's my way or the high way. Most people choose to conform. That's neither good nor bad, necessarily. We want the social interaction, and are willing to sacrifice some autonomy to get it. We can be trained, or train ourselves to change how we view the world and ourselves. Under different training, we would all be different people, drastically different.
Human beings are products capable of helping build themselves. Every new generation has opportunities that did not exist before.
Totally - well said.

It's worth noting that you seem to have chosen different friends over your church friends, though. So the adult you actively chooses friends who share similar ways of understanding the world. That would kind of be the opposite of peer pressure :)

But I'm sure this new Tide's social circle has its own kinds of pressure.

Since: Mar 09

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#492374 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Cheers and Peace to you also Skom; and in my opinion, you have made a great choice by moving on :)
Recall, they have come here for the purpose of stirring us up, and we shouldn't let them succeed, we should be who it is we have set out to be (IMHO)
I know you are right and it was a mistake to indulge it from the beginning. I do think it is beneficial to show how some that criticize the 'church' are nothing more than common bigots trying to dress themselves up as something noble but as far as almost all the rest goes it simply is giving the attention sought. If it was motivated by something genuine or civil it would be different but most of it is just hate of faith and looking for different avenues in which to express it. Not all but a lot anyway(T) PEACE
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#492375 Feb 22, 2013
I wanna' tell you something,America. When you look out into the pews of a church and you see people of different races in the audience,in my opinion,that says that preacher,or pastor,has something very REAL going on,in relation to knowing how to reach out to many different PEOPLE,and not just 'certain people': http://www.bing.com/videos/search...

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#492376 Feb 22, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>And it's obvious that your lack of belief is what has shaped your opinion of this matter, otherwise you wouldn't believe that standing on God's Word is "hate speech" or bigotry, as for labeling them perverts, they are such as what they do is against nature itself.
Exactly. This whole world is a type of perversion as it is ruled by the devil. Woe to them that put evil for good and good for evil. Thankful that now its just a temp gig. Soon very soon we are going to see the King!

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#492377 Feb 22, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I understand you guys circle the wagons even harder the worse he makes a fool of himself but man, laying it on a little thick today no?
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You will be waiting a long time as there is nothing left to say. You guys can try to spin and justify and drool over him all you want. Quite frankly it is becoming hard to take a lot of people seriously the way the fawn over not only some dude on the Internet but a guy so obviously dishonest and hateful
I understand he is looked at by some as the leader of your "humanist" group
To me he is a simply a guy that says things like this
"Nor am I bigoted against Christians. I detest their infection."
Which to me and I know quite a few others not so enamored with him is the comments of a bigot and a liar is total denial or lying because of his ego
You don't come across as a person with much self confidence and you get pretty angry when you are incapable of defending yourself.

Listen, Skom, what you claimed about IANS simply isn't true. You weren't able to demonstrate that he lied and you're unable to demonstrate that he's a bigot. You are just latching onto these insults because you don't like IANS.

That's weak.

And now you're lashing out at me for stating the obvious. That's even weaker. I honestly don't care what you feel about me or IANS. To me, you're words on a page - sometimes understanding, empathetic words, sometimes angry, childlike and insulting words.

Don't take me seriously if you don't want to. No need to.

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#492378 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
Thou shalt not kill.....
what makes you think murderers are Christians?
They can also read in the same book, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

Not all Christians murder. Not all murderers are Christian. Several murders taking place recently in Africa have been committed by Christians justified in their actions by words in the Bible, that they believe, because they are Christian.

If that didn't get though, I can rephrase it.

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