Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#492421 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>hahaha..... GOD gave me the internet
Nope. That was all science and technology.

:0

Since: Mar 09

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#492422 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO!
So it's not the gay 'people', it's the gay 'institution' that you're upset with...?
Lol...yep, I like to make meaningless qualifications, it helps me lie later! But what gave you the impression I am upset with them. As Tide pointed out there was nothing wrong with me saying gays dont have to feel bad about giving people aids! Thats only an ugly statement if someone falsely interprets it that way!The denial and dishonesty by some of these "humanists" is really something. i know ians is like their leader but at what point is a duck called a duck?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#492423 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder if that story is true....
Take a pic of a cute lil black African kid & write a terrible tale. Not hard for a journalist.
The Huffington Post is well known for its bullshit "media" & incorrect reporting.
Are there other sites, maybe a video, to confirm that story?
See no evil, hear no evil.

You remind me of the Catholic Church, turning a blind eye to priest pedophilia.

Since: Jan 11

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#492424 Feb 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. when River Tam enters the building, I quiver ..
.. was that a joke ??..
Are you watching on the River Cam?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#492425 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
It is horrid ~ I don't know what else to say :(
Now you know.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#492426 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps you are putting yourself on the same level? At least in the eyes of others, if not in the eyes of yourself...
When I argue with people who's ramblings would never be taken seriously in an academic setting, then yes, I am absolutely lowering myself.

There's no engagement with learning from certain individuals here - they just want to spout their own ideas while ignoring all evidence based explanations.

You ask interesting questions - I did my best to answer the bee one, and can provide references for my explanation (though I doubt you'd want to read some of the math behind the explanation). Some individuals, when they ask questions, don't want anyone's answer but their own - and they therefore must deride rather than engage with others' positions.

Since: Mar 09

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#492427 Feb 22, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, yes, yes, "Skombolism", that's it~/.
Please dont name things based on me. I have seen the hero-worship and subsequent fawning and obsessive defendcing you guys do with Ians.While its a good thing if you realize how basically anybody with an ounce of class accepts apologies with grace you dont need to credit me with the practice. I say this because Im afraid if something ever happens to Ians you may want to start worshipping me! Now I know you will say that will never happen but who can say how devastating it might be to your phyche if you lost Ians? So just to play it safe how about you simply acknowledge you need to work on basic manners?Good? Good:)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#492428 Feb 22, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
If the thread has something for them, then they won't miss it.
This will run it's course, people will come and go..
topics will change like the wind.. In the mean
time- there is alot to be learned from all sides of the "isle"
here.
Shouldn't all be welcome?
Especially considering the title of the thread.
Not the opposite..
Did I say they are not welcome? I just pointed out the reason that they came here.....

Perhaps you might want to talk to those about coming here for the particular reason of having a go at posters.... but then again, perhaps not. Best to stay out of it all together, especially considering the Title of this Thread.
Knowledge

United States

#492429 Feb 22, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I've seen Christians ask for forgiveness in their prayers b/c of their masturbation proclivities
2. Christianity includes all kinds of odd religious positions, like nuns and priests, who aren't allowed to have sex (thereby promoting all kinds of immoral sex)
3. Christianity includes a taboo against pre-marital sex. Perhaps the weakest in my list, but it does make for lots of teenage pregnancies due to silly principles regarding sex education and access to prophylactics.
In your paragraph above, you don't seem to realize that by requiring people to be silent about sex you are tacitly endorsing the hegemonic mainstream through censorship while promoting the coverup of sex crimes.
Also, the only way to produce truly educated people is to give them a broad, religion-free education. If you honestly wanted your children to choose your religion and understand its beauty, you would allow them to compare all religions. But you don't want your children to have these kinds of choices. You want them to perpetuate the religious belief system that you've been encultured to. There's nothing inherently evil about that, it's basically how all peoples on the planet work, but it's worth admitting and understanding this point.
<quoted text>
First, I constantly write that all peoples have done terrible atrocities and try very hard not to suggest there is something especially wrong with Christians. Rather, there is nothing compelling about Christianity that would lead one to conclude that their deity and precepts have any more objective reality to them than the claims of any other religion.
I'm not actually condemning Christians. I'd like it if you were capable of understanding other people's worldviews, though. Don't misinterpret me here - I have written that other believers of other religions share the same problems with empathy; they're likewise unable to accept that the other has a valid worldview and subjective reality.

Some people can have empathy for others, having the same experiences. Different religions means, that we do not agree.....but we can agree to disagree.

Second, you're right. What am I doing here? I guess b/c my topix friends came here, I did. And then jumped into ongoing discussions. You'll note I haven't commented on anyone's prayers and haven't trolled posts between friends - I've basically restricted myself to answering arguments, and questions. Serrah posted one about evolution - that was fun to answer.
But, yeah, this isn't the place for me. Very sorry to have troubled you.
I am sorry, I made you feel that way, and yes this is the place for you if you enjoy talking about Jesus. We all have our own opinions.

You obviously don't know very much about Christianity, and Catholics. They are very different. We both believe in God and Jesus Christ. Catholics believe they must go to a priest, and repent their sins to get forgiveness from God. Christians do not, we ask God, ourselves . Therefore no one knows what sin one has committed it is strictly between God and the person.

Sex crimes are committed by most people who are not married, who rapes a woman. Predators who rape kids are usually married or in a relationship, gay/straight to hide their acts as a cover.

I don't know why any person would ask for forgiveness for their own sexual doings in front of another or even telling another....RED FLAG! I won't say anything more about that.

Now, as far as children, and adolescents....that is the reason why they have parents and guardians. The government has NO business in any ones home life, unless family services has had to step in, for crimes against the parent. If parents want teachers telling their kids stuff, than the parents should be notified, and given the right to let them be in the class, or to take them out, do to their beliefs. Quite simple

As far as you troubling me, it is always interesting to see other people's opinions even if we disagree.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#492430 Feb 22, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. That was all science and technology.
:0
GOD gave us the people :)

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#492431 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
IANS is probably one of the biggest bigots on Topix. He's bigoted against Christians.
If you can't see that, you either a fool (not likely) or you're too much against Christians, just like him.
Take what he says, erase the word "Christian" & replace it with "gay", or replace "church" with "gay bar", then you might notice.
Bigotry shouldn't be tolerated coming from either direction.
What is it with you and gay?

From what I've read, you're not gay, Skom's not gay, IANS isn't gay and HFY isn't gay (although, I'm not opposed to a test).

Perhaps you could pick another group of humans to help define your position. It would keep me off your back, wouldn't it?

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#492432 Feb 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. ok ..
I'd let you win first. Then you let me win?

Since: Mar 10

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#492433 Feb 22, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. This whole world is a type of perversion as it is ruled by the devil. Woe to them that put evil for good and good for evil. Thankful that now its just a temp gig. Soon very soon we are going to see the King!
Your words (not God's words you quoted here)
are frightening..

You see this life, this precious beautiful gift we have been
given
as a "gig"??
And you are thankful it's a "temp gig" at that??

Wonder how your soul feels about that. Do you happen know God's
timeline?
Just curious.

Take care Chris, I am sincere.
I wish yourself and your wife a life of Love Grace and Joy.

Since: Mar 09

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#492434 Feb 22, 2013
@HIDING...first you cant prove people dont choose to be gay, what about prison when straight people chose to engage in gay sex? Secondly even if ppl are born gay so what? it isnt hate because someone chose to be part of a faith? thats quite the ethical rationalization. like you said, nobody knows 99% of all Christians. Which.....now stay with me....it is bigoted to label all Christains when someone doesnt even know the person they are labeling. And you want to stop the spread of Christianity? Facinating. I want to sleep with the Olson twins and win the lottery. Lets race. I'll meet you at the 'never gonna happen' finish line

Since: Sep 12

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#492435 Feb 22, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> I keep a list of this available. I have a more comprehensive and detailed list...*somewhere*, but I've obviously saved it somewhere other than my .txt file folder. It's floating around on topix somewhere.
Anyway...
The stories and videos below are graphic.
"African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/18/afri...
"Deadly hunt for 'witches' haunts Kenya villagers"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/06/12/ke...
"Witchcraft burning in kisii"
http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!
"Minister blames loss on witchcraft"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"Horror of Kenya's 'witch' lynchings"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8119201.stm
"The Christians are Burning Witches (Again)"
http://jasonstotts.com/2009/10/the-christians...
[CNN] Kenya: "Witch Hunts" follow in wake of ethnic violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"The Religious in Africa burning suspected witches"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =U5qYhmf-boEXX
"Christian missionaries behind Soumya's murder"
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...
"More African Churches are dealing with the troubling problem of Christian pastors torturing and executing “witch children” in the name of their faith."
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/african-past...
If you look at some of those, you'll notice they throw rocks from time to time, too.
Nothing like a good stoning~/.
Hello,
Can you post some stories from more reliable sources? Any kind of information that comes from .com is NOT reliable. I am not saying that those stories are not true, but I do know that the only "reliable" source that is not biased is from sites that end with .gov .edu .org Those with .com can be written from any amature and from someone who holds special interest on the subject. I can easily google ( atheist kill more people than preachers) and guess what will pop up? Thousands of .coms with stories about atheist killing people but I also realize that those sites can come from anyone. Research from reliable sources please Thanks

Since: Jan 11

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#492436 Feb 22, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Some cultures don't see sex and sexual contact between same sex people to be sex. They just see it as entertainment. The WHO found that out when they interviewed about sex practices and tried to spread info about STDs -'cause the WHO researchers were all confused. Words like "gay" and "homosexual" have no meaning in such places, because such people use words like "play" to describe what basically all the men do.
That makes sense.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Totally - well said.
It's worth noting that you seem to have chosen different friends over your church friends, though. So the adult you actively chooses friends who share similar ways of understanding the world. That would kind of be the opposite of peer pressure :)
But I'm sure this new Tide's social circle has its own kinds of pressure.
Yep. The BORG. They're never satisfied.
Knowledge

United States

#492437 Feb 22, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Concerning that particular subject, I'm sure that it is true that on the outside also... that there are some married men, even some married Pastors, who have committed perverted lewd acts and has been unfaithful to their wives by engaging sexual lust with another male... then afterwards engaging in normal sex with their spouse after the escapade. Look at Ted Haggard...
I could give you a list of many more. That is why I say follow no man, because they will fail you. Man struggles with good and evil everyday. There is no man different before God, we are all the same. Any man can get a preaching degree or become a priest of whatever they decide to be. It is their daily living, that will make them accountable before God, and accepting Jesus Christ as their Saviour. It is wise if a person goes to church to seek their pastors or priest credentials, of daily living and kneeology. Not to see how many people they can bring in the door, or how much money they will make.

Since: Mar 10

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#492438 Feb 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Did I say they are not welcome? I just pointed out the reason that they came here.....
Perhaps you might want to talk to those about coming here for the particular reason of having a go at posters.... but then again, perhaps not. Best to stay out of it all together, especially considering the Title of this Thread.
I didn't mean to upset you Serah..

It's an open forum..
Stay post don't post read icon agree disagree..debate don't debate..
on an on..

So what why they came here??

What are you defending against them anyways?
Your right to be a Christian??
Your rights to anything at all??

Are the Christians really the victims here?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#492439 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, I won't respond :)
You make a very good case and a strong argument.
How can you change someone's mind? In some cases, you can't. In others, a diligent course of logical argument is needed. For some, action is the only thing that can help.
Take it from me, an ex gay disliker, if the gays would tone it down a notch, that'd help your cause tremendously. What I mean is; you know a lot of people really don't like gays - stop throwing it in their face! Stop. Let time takes its course, let it sink in, give us time to adjust.
And like you've been to me, be nice. No matter what.
Niceness goes a looooong way to helping attain an honest goal.
* RR's rant over *
.. neat. Your position has changed. Keep growing, baby !!..

Since: Sep 12

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#492440 Feb 22, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> I keep a list of this available. I have a more comprehensive and detailed list...*somewhere*, but I've obviously saved it somewhere other than my .txt file folder. It's floating around on topix somewhere.
Anyway...
The stories and videos below are graphic.
"African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/18/afri...
"Deadly hunt for 'witches' haunts Kenya villagers"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/06/12/ke...
"Witchcraft burning in kisii"
http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!
"Minister blames loss on witchcraft"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"Horror of Kenya's 'witch' lynchings"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8119201.stm
"The Christians are Burning Witches (Again)"
http://jasonstotts.com/2009/10/the-christians...
[CNN] Kenya: "Witch Hunts" follow in wake of ethnic violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"The Religious in Africa burning suspected witches"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =U5qYhmf-boEXX
"Christian missionaries behind Soumya's murder"
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...
"More African Churches are dealing with the troubling problem of Christian pastors torturing and executing “witch children” in the name of their faith."
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/african-past...
If you look at some of those, you'll notice they throw rocks from time to time, too.
Nothing like a good stoning~/.
Just to show you how easy it is to get unreliable sources from the web using .com

http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass...

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1121/p09s01-coo... , not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history

http://atheisticviolence.wordpress.com/2007/1...

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/p/At...

And the list can go on and on.."People" kill for many different reasons.

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