Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#492073 Feb 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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If the KKK demeans black people, we must point this out because it is wrong.
Similarly, if a church demeans homosexuals, we must point this out because it is wrong.
This should be simple to understand.
You really have a fixture on Gays, Catcher1, and have surprised me with your continuing posts regarding same. You believe having your penis chopped off is normal, and one's boobs chopped off is normal too. You believe sex with the same partner is normal; well, sorry to offend you, but it is not normal. Accepted; yes, Normal, no. It is not up to us to approve homosexuality, Catcher1, who are we to judge? If people want to get married to the same sex, let them. Who gives a hoot really apart from their friends and loved ones.

Leave it between GOD and the individual to work out where they are on their Spiritual journey, for you can have no idea.

Just as you denounce Christians as being guilty, you approve Gays as being right; but you do not know the individual. And it is the individual that counts.

However, do you consider bi-sexuals normal too?

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#492074 Feb 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. whenever someone says a person or group 'always' does something they're usually incorrect. Unbelievers are not ALWAYS going to vilify believers. That's like me saying Christians are ALWAYS going to vilify gays. It's not true ..
And of course, it wouldn't be true if you said all Gays are innocent, would it?

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#492075 Feb 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Excuse me for butting in here.
Tide's post to me was humor for humor.
Your post to him is unnecessary condescension, and will only add to the already-present ill will.
And this posting will smooth things over?

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Fennario

#492076 Feb 22, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Juicylu wrote:
Btw, all the ridiculous assumptions that all or most Christians are 'indoctrinated from childhood' are wrong.

IANS responded
And who made that "ridiculous assumption"? That would be you. You seem to suffer from Skomboli Disease.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

You are a liar dude. Which is why you kept trying to spin the other post also
This is what you are referring to? Why do wait so long to present these things? I could have explained when you first made the "liar" accusation.

Of course I believe that most or all Christians are indoctrinated. Why would I deny that? I was objecting to Juicy putting paraphrased words in quotation marks and calling them mine, something that you had done.

There is no intention to deceive or misrepresent the truth here. I do not lie. I have no need or reason to.

But you slander.

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#492077 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Maybe they don't either. They both seem to be giving as good as getting.
Sometimes you have to let the boys fight it out.
Yeah ~ but why is it that Christian's are getting flack for saying nothing? Oh, that's right, we're Christians. Thank GOD and JESUS we are expecting it, otherwise we might take it personally :)

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#492078 Feb 22, 2013
Well Lookie here....It is Friday

:-)

“But who prays for Satan?
Who, in eighteen centuries,
has had the common humanity
to pray for the one sinner
that needed it most?”

~ Mark Twain

Thought for the Day

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#492079 Feb 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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The U.S. Supreme Court is charged with interpreting the Constitution.
With regard to the First Amendment, you are incorrect.
The issue is whether there is government "entanglement" with religion.
Whether there is or isn't depends on the specific circumstances of a situation: school prayer, when, how and by whom; religious texts on public buildings; use of public school facilities for religious programs. These are just examples.
The bottom line is that there is no simple answer like the one you have given. It's a series of complex legal issues in an evolving world.
You are entitled to your personal view of how things should be, but you should stay tuned and maintain an open mind, willing to learn and understand.
Is it going to warm up around here, or what?
There is sex education in classes these days; we used to have Mothers and Babies, but things have changed LOL..

*** While other parts of the world are still debating gay marriage, the Netherlands was the first to legalize it in 2001, and now the country faces an even more progressive issue: the legalization of three or more gay parents raising a child. The below video profiles a family composed of two men and two women, all identifying as gay, who are raising children together. The two men gave their sperm to the two women for artificial insemination, and two boys, Simon and Joaquim, were born. The boys spend the week with their mothers, except for Thursdays with their dads, and the weekends with all four of their parents.

The parents say that, before committing to being a family, they spent a lot of time together discussing their values and making sure they wanted similar things for their children. The key topic seems to have been how to educate their children.

But the legality of the family is still in question. Under Dutch law, only the mothers can legally call themselves the childrens’ parents.

I think whatever will provide a child and its parents with feelings of stability and love is healthy and good. While this model wouldn’t work for everyone, that’s true of any family arrangement. Furthermore, if two gay couples want their children to have a male or female presence in their lives as well, this is a good possible solution. TC mark

&fe ature=player_embedded ***

Progress?

“~ Prince of Peace~”

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~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#492080 Feb 22, 2013
Today's Prayer

God, Things that taste bitter, do not taste good. Likewise, a soul that is bitter, does not feel good. Please help me to not become bitter over people who have hurt me. I pray for these people, that you would help them realize what they have done, and give them the desire and courage to make things right. I pray also that you would put the desire and courage in me to forgive and put the past behind; to live every day as a new day, being thankful for new beginnings. Thank you God, for giving me a new beginning. In Jesus name I pray and give you thanks. Amen.

Prime Time with GOd

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#492081 Feb 22, 2013
Encouraging Words....

God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God

Ephesians 2:8

K-Love

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#492082 Feb 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. you know that's not what I meant ..
My grandson used to be scared in the hallway; above that doorway I have a plaque, with the image of JESUS how HE is perceived, and the words inscribed;

*GOD's Peace be in this house; And all who live here:

And I told him, don't be scared (name), JESUS and GOD are looking after us and we don't need to be scared in the hallway (or similar), and he ran to the end of the hallway, grabbing the toys and playthings when he got there.

I talk to him about whistling in the dark when we feel the urge to run, Praying to GOD when things are going wrong, and giving him all the Spiritual encouragement I can muster.

My Grandchildren were here just after my Queen Puggy died; I would just let the tears roll down my cheeks; I cannot fight them or I sort of sob LOL, and took them to the spot where she died and moved on to Heaven.

They have held her Ashes in her little Urn, and been here when I ordered Pugstar on the net and know what it is to0 care and love animals. One would hope it is the parent's responsibility to help them love the Vessel that their Spirit has consumed, and not to fight it continually.

I am not sure what you meant, and I'm probably not sure what I mean either, but perhaps there are two sides to the coin?

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Fennario

#492083 Feb 22, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
His last post made it clear he would never object to the idea Christians have been indoctrinated since childhood...EXCEPT..that is exactly what he did with Juicy as he does with so many people when the double-board certified doctor's pride can't concede a point being made against him so he lies.
Wrong in two ways.

First, you have mistaken what it was that I objected to. It wasn't about indoctrination. It was about paraphrasing using quotation marks.

And second, you changed Juicy's comment from something that I actually agree with to something that I disagree with by dropping two key words. This is characteristic of you. Besides making erroneous assumptions and calling others "liar" on the basis of them, you are intellectually sloppy. You seem to be unable to understand what you read or to hold a thought without corrupting it.

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#492084 Feb 22, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
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Hi Serah,
Thats sad!! Have a blessed day.
You too, Grace; it is getting on for 10:30pm Fri night here and almost ready to toss it in :) Perhaps it is not really so sad for G, but perhaps his inner battles keep him swinging?

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#492085 Feb 22, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yes. Of course it is. That is central to my argument against the church. It inculcates a foul philosophy in as many people as it can to whatever extent it allows them. Individual Christians vary in the degree to which they can be said to be indoctrinated with Christianity.
And according to Hiding, we are all all indoctrinated with Christianity to some extent, although I believe that encultured or enculturated was her word. She used the example of the homo-hetero dichotomy of human sexuality being a Christian concept accepted by atheists as well.
In just one post with somebody like you, an order of magnitude more substantial information is exchanged that in one with Dim, whose posts are maelstroms of confusion. What in hell is he saying? Do you know?
I have no idea what Dim's brouhaha is about. Does he think that I denied that Christians were indoctrinated to Juicy? Why would I say that? If Christians weren't indoctrinated by their, that church wouldn't be a problem. What have I been saying since day one other than that we need to reduce the church's influence on people's thinking - their hatreds and self-loathings?
Hah!

What a load of garbage? You probably think there are third world countries :0 )

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#492086 Feb 22, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Sometimes they run, when they're on the lamb.
Don't tell me you herd that one.
*** https://www.google.com.au/search...

Have you ever seen the treacherous paths that sheep follow? Amazing stuff, in my eyes, meandering their way up the mountains and leaving a path of not very many inches wide.

You may know that the Gates are narrow; but then again, you may not and probably care less. You might think it is an insult to be called a Sheep, and others think it a might compliment. We are who we are, and I am indeed happy to follow that narrow path to safety.

And of course, love life along the way!!

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#492087 Feb 22, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Thanks.
I call that church a societal parasite because it takes and takes and takes,returning virtually nothing of value. Christian homophobia is but one of several burdens it imposes on society. The atheophobia is just as repulsive.
Then there's the sexual prudery of ancient sexual mores and all of the guilt that causes for people, many who are ashamed to enjoy sex because of it.
And there is the antiscientism that is making American and Americans weaker.
And the self-forgiveness that teaches the kind of behavior we have been witnessing here.
And the infantilism of Christian ideology, which aims to keep people frightened, ignorant, dependent, and hoping for magic.
And the deep pessimism and nihilism of Christian doctrine. What is the cost of feeling alienated in a world that you are taught to disesteem?
And for what in return? I hear about it teaching Christian love. No thanks. Or Christian morals. More fail. Or Christian spirituality. What a joke.
We are told about Christian charity. I don't accept their claim on their word. We saw how little of the money donated to Mother Teresa's charity's made it to the poor - less than ten percent. What would unannounced audits of the books of a hundred churches chosen at random reveal? No doubt that Christian charity is far less than the tax break it gets to administer whatever crumbs it can spare for the poor.
Anyway, in biology, an entity that sucks you dry and makes you sick without giving back is called a parasite. And this church is just that, like a giant, swollen tick festering on a culture.
Do you pay tax? Who are you feeding?()or should I say did you pay tax?)

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#492088 Feb 22, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Mind you this is a man who says that saying Christians don't need to apologize of make amends to those they hurt because they can ask the sky for forgiveness isn't a negative implication towards Christians and a man who regularly substitutes "Christians" with "church" to dishonestly disguise his bigotry while claiming he is targeting nobody so take it for what it is
You are unteachable. You can't make a distinction between criticism of an idea and criticism of the individuals abused by it.

An idea that gets into your head is like an organism that gets into your body. If I say that I hate tuberculosis, I am not talking about the people afflicted with it. If I were to wage a war against tuberculosis, you would call me a bigot that hates people with TB.

Would you prefer it if I said that all Christians are morally corrupt? I never have. Nor am I bigoted against Christians. I detest their infection.

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#492089 Feb 22, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You are unteachable. You can't make a distinction between criticism of an idea and criticism of the individuals abused by it.
An idea that gets into your head is like an organism that gets into your body. If I say that I hate tuberculosis, I am not talking about the people afflicted with it. If I were to wage a war against tuberculosis, you would call me a bigot that hates people with TB.
Would you prefer it if I said that all Christians are morally corrupt? I never have. Nor am I bigoted against Christians. I detest their infection.
hahaha

"Nor am I bigoted against Christians. I detest their infection."

hahahahahahaha

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#492090 Feb 22, 2013
Good night, I am off to hit the hay :)

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#492091 Feb 22, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
The building itself teaches dogma. beliefs, etc?
LOL. I might as well be conversing with a rock.
Skombolis wrote:
It is his way of being bigoted while pretending he is really against ideology
How would it have manifested if I were telling the truth? What if I really meant what I said - that I don't hate Christians, but I do hate the belief system that they have been infected with, and the institution that perpetuates such teaching? What would a person that believes that write, and in what way does my writing differ from that which allows you to say with such authority that I am not that person?
Skombolis wrote:
When he thinks the vast, vast majority of Christians think in a way he is opposed to then he is equally against them
How can you say that? What evidence is there that I am against those people? I am for those people, although I don't know how to help them, since all I can offer them is reasoned argument, which is no match for faith, just as antibiotics are no match for extensively drug-resistant tuberculosis organisms.

But I hope to help those not yet infected. Prevention is the key.
Skombolis wrote:
he says things like "your religion is useless and so are you"
That I would agree with, although my guess is that I didn't use those exact words. I have no record of my using those words, and neither does Google: http://snipurl.com/26g7nm0

Why do you continue to paraphrase and use quotation marks? It's dishonest - a sort of reverse plagiarism, but instead of stealing my words and claiming they were yours, you put your words into my mouth. It's dishonest, and you've been told as much repeatedly.

But what do you care, huh? You don't have to. You're not perfect, just forgiven.

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~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#492092 Feb 22, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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I don't know about the last 3 years Teddy mentioned but I know what seems to have started it recently.
Teddy said he didn't discount the existence of a Creator but would need proof/evidence/whatever.
Skom pointed it out to Teddy and Teddy denied it... then admitted to saying evidence instead of proof which is what Skom said.
Then Skom said Teddy is a liar and Teddy said Skom is Dim... and it went from there, lots of words and pomp and name calling signifying nothing.
Yep, let the kids fight it out... next they'll be arguing about the other one 'looking at me!'
LOVE ya G <BRIGHT smile>>
Hey JL......

Wondered where you went.....Hope you are doing good....

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