Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Jan 11

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#491859 Feb 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
The purpose of asking that was to illustare someone cant pretend their hatred is limited to some abstract definition of 'church' when it is clearly directed at the members.
Whether or not you understand the concept, "the church" refers to an abstract entity. Another example would be "the media".

Also, I don't know where you're getting hatred from.

If you asked IANS if he hated Christians, and he said no, would you believe him?
Skombolis wrote:
And by his own admission the churches teach ppl to love. There is no Christian ideology that teaches ppl to hate gays so your comparison doesnt work. Whats more you have admitted yourself he uses "Christians" as an entity which he clearly does when stereotyping.
Christianity is an abstract entity. Christians are people.

Islam is an abstract entity. Muslims are people.

Does that help? Maybe? No? I tried.

Christianity, the abstract entity, produces prejudice and intolerance towards homosexuals. Islam does too.

They (the entities) are not doing that consistently. It's a theme that is more prevalent in some circles of influence than others to differing degrees. In America, the vast majority of bigotry towards homosexuals comes from Christians. If that's not true, convince me.
Skombolis wrote:
Dont feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for a guy so needy he has to look up to anonymous posters on the internet.
What is the difference between an anonymous poster on the internet, and a real person?

None.
Skombolis wrote:
And no it doesnt require 4000 characters for me to understand you as you and what motivates your posts is easy to follow
You've told me about your projections. I'm not interested.

If you don't understand the difference between talking about Christianity, and talking about Christians, have you at least recognized that some of us do make that distinction, and that it is very important to us?

I know I said "us", but try to stay focused. I'll keep the gang at bay long enough for you to stay on point.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#491860 Feb 21, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
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You're telling me that? I though you knew, already, that I never depend on our English translations.....
So find me these uncreated sexless messengers that had a war with God and a 1/3 of them cast out with Satan as their leader, etc. in the Original Hebrew texts.

Oh wait! You can't even do that in the English translations of the Hebrew Scriptures. <smile>
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491861 Feb 21, 2013

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#491863 Feb 21, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
I recently visited the Granville Island Broom Company, in Vancouver, B.C. There, several generations of a family make all sorts of brooms, right before your eyes, using 19th and early 20th Century hand-operated machines. Granville Island is accessible by little boats and is a wonderful place, with a huge market, seafood stores, other retail establishments, docks for private boats, and several fine restaurants. I highly recommend it to anybody visiting the city.
The Granville Island Broom Company even makes brooms without handles.
So there, Tide.
Don't forget, secret "group" meeting tonight, you have KP duty.
Damn it!

That'll teach me not to make sweeping generalizations.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491864 Feb 21, 2013
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491865 Feb 21, 2013

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#491866 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, it seems the SPLC deems any group that prays a "hate group"...
A Texas governor, Rick Perry, was attacked by them because he wanted to do a prayer at a sports stadium. They cited a violation of separation if church & state.
Gimme a break.
I'll give you a break, RR.

In return, how about you studying up a bit on the U.S. Constitution?

Deal?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491867 Feb 21, 2013

Since: Mar 09

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#491869 Feb 21, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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:)
Like I said if IANS doesn`t know it`s because he/she doesn`t want to know. But he/she can`t be that clueless so I think on some level he/she knows, even if he/she doesn`t want to admit it to us or himself. Plus he would not have an excuse to not change his attitude if he did admit it. I think he just wants to put down Christians. I think most are not fooled by him/her
I agree sister. Not only people can see his hate and bigotry and complete self-blindness but they can see those who rush to his aid either are not capable of seeing it or will hypocritically judge others while ignoring his actions that quite frankly are as hateful as anything I have seen on Topix as a bigot is a bigot. His occasional subtlety when it comes to this hate isnt fooling many.(T) PEACE
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491870 Feb 21, 2013
This is Doctor R-E-A-L-I-T-Y. Have a wonderful rest of the evening:

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#491871 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Strange.
You didn't add the other side of the coin.
If blacks demean white people, we must point it out because it's wrong.
If homosexuals demean churchgoers, we must point it out because it's wrong.
Honestly, did that even cross your mind?
I agree with you that it is wrong to demean any group unless they do harm.

I am bent, however, on doing everything to uphold the rights of minorities.

I hope you can understand this.
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#491872 Feb 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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How does watching Criminal Minds prove someone is the weaker sex?
And the 'conversion camp' drugged the kids while making them watch straight porn and also had them raped by a female woman while the parents watched and/or participated
There have been 'conversion camps' were some pretty attrocious things have been done and they have a high suicide rate
They FBI also was trying to convince the kid not to kill himself because they needed him to testify against the camp but I have watched the show since its beginning season and they always try to talk the unsub out of killing himself
Not looking for a fight but not really sure where you were going with this post
Of course I don’t know for sure but I would say that Children can be continuously brainwashed by all things that go on in society. After seeing things so much the bad stuff seems to be less menacing or wrong to a kid. See daddy beat mom and maybe it seems not so bad to do it. A kid lives in a house where the parent’s con and use people chanced are the kid is going to live the same life style. To them what kids see can seem ok to do. Good or bad things. It was starting to change but when I was a kid most thought it was not right to have sex outside of marriage. Now the kids are criticized by other kids if they don’t have sex outside of marriage. It has become the norm and kids don’t see it as bad any more. That is just some examples but I think you get the idea. That’s why what someone else is doing is none of my business isn’t always a good way to think. I would not want to see something become so common that my Children see it so much they think it can’t be that wrong even though God says it is. JMO

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#491873 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's what happens in a mixed society.
There very well could've been another 4 year old in your son's daycare that told him all about his mom & mom, or another kid telling your son about how his dad tells him how tasty beer is.
What do we do? Teach our kids the best way we know how & teach them to think for themselves.
Yeah, I tend to agree with that, and that is my approach.

I also find it interesting that what my son gleaned from the other child is that the Jesus, was there, dead and bloody on a stick.

"So we can look at him"

The eyes of a child, eh?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#491874 Feb 21, 2013
Connie22 wrote:
Jesus loves you, because he died on the cross and sacrificed his life for yours!
I would have thought he'd have better reasons than that.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#491875 Feb 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Damn it!
That'll teach me not to make sweeping generalizations.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Understanding you do so most likely seeking the approval of the poster that you look up to and seek to emulate will go a long way in helping you if you want help. Although first you must address the root cause. What has happened in your life that would result in you elevating an anonymous poster on the Internet to such a high stature that you find yourself not only looking up to him but would put a dozen people in the same catagory? Sociologically speaking the two most common reasons would be you did not get the attention or validation you desired when growing up. Honestly the best solution is to realize you dont need the validation. Be comfortable in your own skin.Even posts such as this are designed for someone to give you the response you desire showing they support you over the poster that suggested you do this. Be your own man

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#491876 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't think you understand GW's quote.
I think I do, and the people that can be fooled all of the time never know that they have been.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491877 Feb 21, 2013
To all of you UNBELIEVING BELIEVERS who believe you can lose your salvation,listen to what this man is saying from the :53 mark,to the 1:10 mark. And if you CHOOSE to remain ignorant,may God pity you.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#491879 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Hate?! You consider it hate that a 4 year old told another 4 year old about Jesus?
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you need to concentrate on.-- George W. Bush, August 13, 2003

"So we can look at him"
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491881 Feb 21, 2013
Doctor REALITY

United States

#491882 Feb 21, 2013
When Christ the King returns to this world to welcome His redeemed into eternal bliss,will YOU be among those in.....the last roundup??:

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