Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#491790 Feb 21, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Good morning. Something Le Le said bothered me a bit the other day but now not at all. I'm not sure if it was even directed at me or you but in short said some speak hate in the name of Christ. I've been told when I've witnessed here that saying Jesus Christ is the only way and that any other path goes to hell is hateful. My view is it would be hate not to say this if you know it. Its hard in a forum to know but just thankful here the Lord saved a wretch like me. Nothing but Him can I brag on. Think I will go back to that park. Soon the doc. is going to clear me and its back to work. Take care.
Good evening. The sad thing about it is that unbelievers are going always vilify the believers for lifting up the name of Christ in praise and worship and for standing against everything that is not like his Holy Word, and I really expect nothing from the atheist, agnostics and unbelievers in general, Because I know that their hearts are stony and untouch by our Lord and Saviour, but a HYPOCRITE really steams me because they clain Jesus and yet not only stand up for some things that are so damnable..........but join in on the persecution of those who stand up for God's Holy principals.

And it is hard for me personally to take their alledged "salvation" seriously or respect them in general.

Blessings.

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#491791 Feb 21, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Jesus died 2000 years ago!
And RISEN UP three days later.

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#491792 Feb 21, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Would you not lambaste the Ku Klux Klan for its views on black people?
I know you directed your question at Chris, but I must ask..........what does the KKK has to do with this?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#491793 Feb 21, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
I can't believe this is still going Teddy
It's over now except the reporting. I will continue to call Dim whatever his manners earn him. But I won't be asking for anybody to take a stand any more.
Illuminatrix wrote:
not getting involved does not imply assent or moral cowardice.
What would moral cowardice look like?
Illuminatrix wrote:
A few people have tried to talk to both you and Skom.
Nobody who talked to me about this matter didn't find fault in me except Seraphine, who apologized in place of Dim.

And I didn't see a single post to Dim telling him that he was wrong. If you know of one, please link me to it so that I can thank the poster and credit the Christian community with at least one win.
Illuminatrix wrote:
It seems neither one of you is going to back off and at this point this seems to have escalated into a word war over nothing more than a simple misunderstanding.
The misunderstanding isn't the issue. It's Dim's mouth. It's his gutter Christian ethic of slandering others without cause and then forgiving himself. Everybody who failed to point this out to him was tacitly giving him and that doctrine support. How else can I possibly interpret what I just saw?
Illuminatrix wrote:
As for behaviour, the two of you are well matched.
Do you think so? How are you being any better than any of the rest here? This situation is far from symmetrical.
Illuminatrix wrote:
I LUVE you both but seriously guys/gals... snap out of it... give peace a chance :D<
<3
This kind of love is worth nothing to me. Love is courageous.

Since: Feb 12

Dexter, MO

#491794 Feb 21, 2013
Jesus loves you, because he died on the cross and sacrificed his life for yours!

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#491795 Feb 21, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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So this forum isn't about faith now but politics? Strange that since I started posting here again each day charges have been flying about whos a bigot who spews hate. Imo the sothern poverty law center while making claims to stop hate at times preach it towards people. Many examples in this day alone of people that claim to be more loving while the very words they post prove otherwise.
Long before homosexual activist Floyd Corkins entered the D.C.-based Family Research Council (FRC) with the intent to commit mass murder, I warned from the rooftops that the hard-left Southern Poverty Law Center’s anti-Christian “hate group” propaganda might spur such bloodshed. With a column headlined,“Liberal violence rising,” I wrote,“The SPLC’s dangerous and irresponsible (‘hate group’) disinformation campaign can embolden and give license to like-minded, though less stable, left-wing extremists, creating a climate of true hate. Such a climate is ripe for violence.”
Then, in August, days after Corkins was heroically disarmed by FRC employ Leo Johnson, whom Corkins shot in the arm, I penned another column titled “Fanning the flames of left-wing violence.” I plead with the SPLC to end its “dishonest and reprehensible” strategy of “juxtaposing FRC and other Christian organizations with violent extremist groups” in a transparent effort to marginalize them.
I no longer believe the SPLC has a sense of goodwill. In fact, based on FBI evidence and the group’s own actions (and inaction), I and many others are left with no other inference but this: The SPLC – a left-wing extremist fundraising behemoth – may be intentionally inciting anti-Christian violence.
Just days ago, Corkins pled guilty to a number of charges, including domestic terrorism. FBI evidence revealed that he was both motivated by and utilized the SPLC’s “anti-gay hate map” to target and locate his intended Christian mass murder victims.
more here:
http://intellectualconservative.com/index.php...
I am not sure what your response had to do with my post...there was nothing in it about homosexuals.

Nor does my posting a link to one political/religion site change the dynamics of this thread. There have been links posted to various topics here on this thread in the past...news...politics...curre nt events...music...videos...etc. ..etc.

Money, politics, power might not be a part of your faith but it is a part of all religions. History is history...we can run from it...we can pretend it didn't happen.

The conversations...which by the way...is the first time that I have posted concerning it...is about "church"...what is it...what meaning is being used by both parties...I voiced my opinion.

I also addressed the issue of how much influence does the "church" have when it comes to political issues...how it affects all of us...not just those within that faith.

I would have to ask...have you addressed others as you did me when they post something that you think is off topic?

I remember during the election and afterwards there were quite a few political sites referenced...how about the sports links that are left here???

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#491796 Feb 21, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you Lawest100, it is Friday (yay) and will be close to the old 100 deg today, so summer is saying goodbye with a bang. Hope you are having a great time where ever you are ~ Cheers, Serah
Good evening Serah, I'm not famaliar with how the seasons run where you are, but here summer is still a few months off, but spring is right around the corner and I await it's arrival anxiously. Cheers to you as well and a Blessed day/night.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#491797 Feb 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> I think what you call "dreaming" is really more like defragging your hard drive. It is sorting and refiling short term and long term memory(past) and compacting all those files and conclusions (present) for further utilization (future). It is a very efficient system using a holographic record (much like the hieroglyphic symbols). During the process, evaluations of past and present (in milliseconds) allows the deduction of future events to high accuracy (in holographic depiction) in those who are having conflict of will and imagination.
Understanding those "messages" is unique to the ability of the individual, as he/she is the entity that created the files, folders, and 3D hieroglyphic language in the first place.
With practice, one can utilize this system with control during active awareness(awake). It is not really "mystic", it is intangible actuality, just as is the virtual memory of your computer in relation to your hard drive(s).
I think the "west" has regressed, in that they have not progressed in the science of the fastest computer evaluation system we have ever known...man.
A good analogy BT
In sharing with Serah 'the dreaming'... my own hard drive must be turned into the spirit of another time another place, for to date it is classified as science fiction. But my understanding of any message - feasible - is left with no other explanation than to accept that all things are possible!

That active awareness being daily life, makes for a very interesting one, leaving no room any more for guess work but pure and utter fact. As you state – and so have I also used the term for others benefits –'mystic', no longer is, once a thing is 'known'.

It is this world which needs the words to define, express, explain... the search for that which has not yet been revealed 'to them' remains exactly as the word implies. A mystery.

I have too much living proof of any tangible dream, vision, prophesy, etc. does in deed 'come true', even if in this lifetime, our hard-drive goes way back before our physical birth in memory! And even if we still wait for some of those 'terms'- dream, vision, prophesy, etc.- to eventuate, the fact that those past have proven true, is sufficient enough to 'simply know', that what we share and speak of is reality itself.

For me - as a Christian - no such things subtract, for Jesus himself was living proof of a supernatural being, beyond yet what none have achieved the standard he taught... that “all these things”- referring to all he did called miracles on earth -“you can do and more...”! For that sentence to be finished as...”if you believe” is not out of place at all. For what is the point of performing anything we cannot believe?

He taught Truth...'mankind' twisted it.
He demonstrated Possibility...'mankind' inhibited it.
He proved Right...'mankind' has yet to.

Thank you BT for sharing.
“not of this world, but in it...”

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#491798 Feb 21, 2013
Annie...responding here for space. I have not gotten the impression at all IANS is only refering to certain churches when he says things like "your religion is useless just like you" or Christians dont need to apology or make amends to those they hurt because they can ask the sky for forgiveness or how unlike Christian churches and their empty homilies about love him and his humanists actuallly do it and how they have better ethics and so and so on and so on. I think he makes sweeping bigoted claims about Christians all the time. Tide said Ians refers to Christians as an "entity" and HL says there is a diff between saying church and Christian. I disagree. I think he is blatantly bigoted minus perhaps a few exceptions which to me is like hating blacks except for a few exceptions that ppl explain dont act like most blacks. His opinions of Christians in general is hateful and bigoted and I think a lot of ppl see it. jmo.(T) PEACE

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#491799 Feb 21, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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So you agree with Jeremiah that the Bible is full of the lies of men ?
ROFLMAO
Yes.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#491800 Feb 21, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
Rape and kids having sex... isn't this supposed to be a Christian thread??? EEWWW!!!
Aren't Catholic priests Christians?

Did you see where the former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee and others prominent Christians such as James Dobson said that the Sandy Hook school shootings in Newtown, CT were the result of their god and school prayer being expelled from the public school, as if children praying would protect them from predators? It didn't do the kids in Catholic churches any good.

By the way, if anybody is wondering how so many priests could take the cowards way out and turn a blind eye to the abuse of children going on around them - or even to actively obstruct justice - rather than take a moral stand because it was a little uncomfortable, I offer you the Christians of "Why Should Jesus Love Me?" as exhibit A.

The Christian people of Nazi Germany are a good example of that Christian moral courage as well. As you well know, if you were a Jew in a concentration camp waiting for the tens of millions of church trained Christians in Nazi Germany to stand up and say, "This is wrong! Stop, Herr Hitler!" you were a dead Jew.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#491801 Feb 21, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
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Joshua 5
The Canaanites being dispirited on the passage of the children of Israel through Jordan, Joshua 5:1; Joshua is ordered to circumcise such of the people of Israel that were uncircumcised, Joshua 5:2; in order to their eating of the passover, which was now to be kept, Joshua 5:10; and they being now provided with corn sufficient, the manna ceased, Joshua 5:11; and there appeared to Joshua a DIVINE PERSON, "in a human form", to encourage and direct him what to do in the conquest of the land, and particularly Jericho
*CORN*
Joshua...

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#491802 Feb 21, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Why can't you post the verses instead of some preacher's fabrications ?
I am frustrated by people who claim the Bible says something then back it up with everything except the Bible.
<face palm>
Goooooo is gooooood sayeth me <3

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#491803 Feb 21, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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LOL!!!
no folks, this was not staged to prove my point, it happened all on it's own!!!
Whats ur point? First you claim watching the tv show Criminal Minds proves women are the weaker sex. Even ignoring the sexism how is someone so insecure in their masculinity that they think watching a crime show is indicative of anything? Then you claim they showed the criminal more sympathy than they ever have in any other episode. How would you know that to compare unless you have seen them all? So apparently your wife must make u watch it every week dcespite you hating it and shes the weaker sex? sounds like she wears the pants in ur relationship! Lastly you completely misrepresented what happened in the show. And there have been some 'conversion camps' that have done some heinous things and the show was based on one in particular, it never indicated they r all like that. You seem like you are overcompensating. Your manhood is safe watching a tv show! LOL

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#491805 Feb 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Aren't Catholic priests Christians?
Did you see where the former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee and others prominent Christians such as James Dobson said that the Sandy Hook school shootings in Newtown, CT were the result of their god and school prayer being expelled from the public school, as if children praying would protect them from predators? It didn't do the kids in Catholic churches any good.
By the way, if anybody is wondering how so many priests could take the cowards way out and turn a blind eye to the abuse of children going on around them - or even to actively obstruct justice - rather than take a moral stand because it was a little uncomfortable, I offer you the Christians of "Why Should Jesus Love Me?" as exhibit A.
The Christian people of Nazi Germany are a good example of that Christian moral courage as well. As you well know, if you were a Jew in a concentration camp waiting for the tens of millions of church trained Christians in Nazi Germany to stand up and say, "This is wrong! Stop, Herr Hitler!" you were a dead Jew.
Yes Teddy, I do believe catholics worshipping their tin god do indeed call themselves Christians whilst molesting children and lying to everyone.

Speaking of Nazi Germany, do you know that 'the church' helped to fund Hitler's crusade, including his mad search for the Holy Grail??? Including the human experiments done on Jews???

I should not speak of such horrors too much lest I slip into fury over the lies and deceit of christianity.

Much LOVE to you Teddy :D<

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#491806 Feb 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I offer you the Christians of "Why Should Jesus Love Me?" as exhibit A.
The Christian people of Nazi Germany are a good example of that Christian moral courage as well. As you well know, if you were a Jew in a concentration camp waiting for the tens of millions of church trained Christians in Nazi Germany to stand up and say, "This is wrong! Stop, Herr Hitler!" you were a dead Jew.
Had the people involved been Christian, there would have been much smaller armies considering that the Christian would have refused to commit any form of violence against other Christians to begin with.

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#491807 Feb 21, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. that simply isn't true. You're seeing something that isn't there. I've remained outside your squabble with AINS and have refused to take sides ..It's between you and AIN ..
.. however, when someone makes statements like, "You do it all the time," or, "You always ...," they are usually incorrect. In this specific case, you are incorrect ..
I have showed where he lied. And while u agreed to finally stay out of it with me and Ians (something you rarely do with anyone that says something to him) this is the second time in the last few days you claimed two diff posters were "pulling a skom". You initially claimed u did so in a joking manner because u kid those u like but clearly u mean it just how it comes across that u r saying someone has falsely accused him. If u really want to claim u dont regularly post on his behalf to ppl challenging him then i will leave it at that. Imo its obvious u do not and have seen it regularly in several rooms.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#491808 Feb 21, 2013
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
G_O_D wrote:
Thanks for the enlightening and respectful response.
My pleasure. You deserve respect.
G_O_D wrote:
He [former Commander-in-Chimp T-ball] was such a fool.
He was a supreme fool, and quite amusing if you didn't care about the fate of the nation or the world.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
G_O_D wrote:
Excellent post!!!
Thanks.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#491809 Feb 21, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I am not sure what your response had to do with my post...there was nothing in it about homosexuals.
Nor does my posting a link to one political/religion site change the dynamics of this thread. There have been links posted to various topics here on this thread in the past...news...politics...curre nt events...music...videos...etc. ..etc.
Money, politics, power might not be a part of your faith but it is a part of all religions. History is history...we can run from it...we can pretend it didn't happen.
The conversations...which by the way...is the first time that I have posted concerning it...is about "church"...what is it...what meaning is being used by both parties...I voiced my opinion.
I also addressed the issue of how much influence does the "church" have when it comes to political issues...how it affects all of us...not just those within that faith.
I would have to ask...have you addressed others as you did me when they post something that you think is off topic?
I remember during the election and afterwards there were quite a few political sites referenced...how about the sports links that are left here???
I thank God Annie J for people like you.
I also am learning more and more as time goes by, of such faiths within the Christian branch which shock me.

There are many whose songs I have grown to love due to their content - as the child in me can still be seemingly gullible - but it is behind the scenes which does concern me. And one such faith which like so many, and began in humble beginnings, is now mega mega rich.

I don't doubt much of this wealth goes to aid others, but as it is classified a 'business concern' that mega wealth is tax free. I also don't know enough about the rest, except the pastor and wife live like a king and queen. I believe Jesus did not teach this was how he intended anything which represented him, was meant to be.

You, along with others turn over a lot of stones, only to find they are inhabited by one thing or another.
I like the text in the Bible that states a fact which is coming true to the letter.
"...there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed..."

Annie, we both know we love one another, and heaven knows you have the heart of loving others even termed 'our enemies'. For all those posts - and times in life - where you put your life on the dotted line to share, I know you are a Comfort to so many.

God Bless you Sister Friend.
>>>HUGS<<<
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#491810 Feb 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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If he cared, he'd beg my forgiveness. He has slandered me and continues to do so. He either has no conscience to begin with, or if he gets any pang of guilt, he gets him some forgiveness from the sky on demand every now and again and is go to go again.
But he doesn't care what I think.
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Great point. I noticed.
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Of course you don't. Nor do you. Again, my point.
People with empathy and moral courage do care about people other than themselves and those that agree with them, and express that. They take a stand against injustice. You have seen that from several of the humanists here. Not so much from the Christians.
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And what is that?
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That's a typical comment. Zero substance, just innuendo.
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Getting Dim or any of the rest of you to behave this way or that was not my purpose. Demonstrating who you are was.
What response do you think that somebody who is criticizing the church was expecting and will be able to use? One where Dim feels shame and apologizes after the bulk of you good Christians stood up and exhorted him to do so, or this one, where he steadfastly refuses to do beg forgiveness after being exposed for what he is, and people like you either enable him or remain silent? Think.
Incidentally, with that revelation, the time for action is officially over. The story is written. I won't consider any action taken after this post to be a sincere response to my request that people stand up and do the right thing for its own sake. If you act after now, I would have to assume that is due to a recent realization of what you have shown to at least a half dozen of our most prolific skeptical posters.
I don't know just what Catcher, Happy Lesbo, Hiding, Tide, Scaritual and others thought about this matter before now, but I suspect that any that didn't accept my claim that your doctrine of self-forgiveness facilitates shabby behavior and moral cowardice and then got to see to it play out graphically right here in real-time are at least open to the suggestion if not outright convinced.
This is freethinker school, where we teach and learn from one another in the lecture section, and see it in the lab section. Thanks for your service.
IANS wrote:
If he cared, he'd beg my forgiveness. He has slandered me and continues to do so. He either has no conscience to begin with, or if he gets any pang of guilt, he gets him some forgiveness from the sky on demand every now and again and is go to go again.
But he doesn't care what I think.

HFN wrote:
No one has to beg for your forgiveness. The point is you talk about his faults while you faults keep on pilling up and that seems to be ok with you.

You know, I’m not fooling with answering all this sentence by sentence. I don’t know what started all this between you and Skombolis. That was not my main point here. My point is you don’t get to and no one else can. You seem to think you get a free pass to put down and ridicule but heaven forbid someone disagree with you and give you as good as you are giving them. Double standards IANS. And if you can’t see that then it is because you don’t want to.
HFN

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