Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#491091 Feb 19, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the info... Dawkins is absolutely correct when he say he goes "one god further"... if it is meant in the context I think that he is saying it in.
No worries. Dawkins meant "You are atheists, too, for all gods that are not Jehovah. I simply go one god further."

Or something like that.

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Since: Aug 12

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#491092 Feb 19, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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It's b/c of where they fit on the discrimination ladder. HIV travels along the lines of social inequalities.
Worldwide, HIV infects mostly heterosexual women, because of unequal access to monetary resources.
I honestly don't expect you to understand what I'm writing.
Please post the link to that info... heterosexual woman due to prostitution and/or rapes perhaps.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491093 Feb 19, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
if you try to demoralize my environment with what YOU think is apporiate behavior rather than what the Creator says it is, you're gonna have me up in yur grill, AND i'm gonna be consistent about it:-)
You seem to be saying that if anybody objects to their demonization according your church's version of what is appropriate, that you will fight them.

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#491094 Feb 19, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're arguing that God is evil for Knowing how His Creation would behave and Creating rules for them to be punished for their Created behavior?
Ok.
Nope.. I didn't say or argue that at all. That is what you are attempting to project in a sort-of-subliminal way to make it seem like God is evil.

Try again in a non-subliminally way.

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Since: Aug 12

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#491095 Feb 19, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
No worries. Dawkins meant "You are atheists, too, for all gods that are not Jehovah. I simply go one god further."
Or something like that.
Right, they believe and find their worth and humanistic values in the non-existence of God which they have yet to prove doesn't exist.

Since they can't prove God's non-existence... they have faith that He doesn't exist.

worth + ship = worship

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Since: Aug 12

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#491096 Feb 19, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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I've never seen you talk so much!
Simply sounding the alarm as I find the situation with NAMbLA and all that alarming.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491097 Feb 19, 2013
Adam wrote:
Stfu you stupid and evil blasphemer. Douchebag
G_O_D wrote:
At least douchebags serve a useful purpose, you could learn from one.
Chris Clearwater wrote:
More of that compassion on display from the humanist clan. Thanks but no thanks.
LOL.

Dude - he was responding to the theist using the theist's own terms. The theist had called him a douchebag, and his response was orders of magnitude more polite.

I am certain you will rebuke the theist just as strongly now that you realize your blunder, won't you? Just kidding. I know your values.

Christianity. Meh. As you so pithily noted, "Thanks but no thanks."

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#491098 Feb 19, 2013
Audi...

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#491099 Feb 20, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You could never butt in PW ~ we are linked :)
Just one small incident - my daughter jumped off a ledge, and I told her not to do it, and she broke her leg (in my dream that is) but the reality was a couple of weeks later, an argument between a couple of men who had drunk too much, and one hit the other and parents and relatives were getting involved.
While I was busy calming down one situation, my daughter was outside yelling at the mother of one of them that had been hit.... I still think she should have stayed out of it, but there you are, these little dreams are just perhaps forewarning us for some reason.
I'll drag out the dreams that I was listing in my journal/book, before I stopped writing of them, because they were a lot more specific and not just of a simple situation :)
(((HUGS))) also to you, Sister from the North and I hope to see your words again soon xx
Good early morning Serah.

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#491100 Feb 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Good answer! Thanks. And good attitude.
*Looks like you had a busy day with patients...*I made you some cookies, and lemonade.:)

http://www.landolakes.com/assets/images/recip...
http://food.sndimg.com/img/recipes/67/23/4/la...

Enjoy, Teddy Bear...:)

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#491101 Feb 20, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Because they were actually in the very Presence of God in heaven... more powerful than us and having lived in heaven they know better from on-hand experience, so to speak. A 2nd reason is that they aren't "created" in God's image and likeness, we are. A third reason, we are more like family to God... they are more like employees.
Say you have a live-in nanny who has been with the family for a long time and enjoy certain privileges that the family enjoys... the woman of the house gets preganant and eventually give birth... who would take precedence? the child or the nanny? When it comes down to it the child (though he/she been on this earth for a short time) will always be the true family. The nanny works for the child even though she may have some authority over him/her.
In much the same way, some of those angels are like that Nanny. That is why the bible says that they are "ministering spirits" for those who are "heirs" of salvation. In another place, your Uncle Paul <<<smile>>> says that we will one judge angels.
That's an interesting hypothesis, and likely very true.

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#491102 Feb 20, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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*Looks like you had a busy day with patients...*I made you some cookies, and lemonade.:)
http://www.landolakes.com/assets/images/recip...
http://food.sndimg.com/img/recipes/67/23/4/la...
Enjoy, Teddy Bear...:)
Awwwwwwwww.......... m that's so sweet.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491103 Feb 20, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
I did not give you an apology
You don't owe me one.
NoStress4me wrote:
but I did ask him to go back and do a reread based on what I read in one of his post’s to you where he had paraphrased something you said. You thanked me for it ...
I don't recall that, but if true, then you did better than most of your peers.
NoStress4me wrote:
... and Skom told me respectfully that I had not read the beginning of the discussion so I did not understand what the discussion was about. A few posts later there was a link to a discussion taking place on a different thread, so I assumed that I truly did not have all of the facts. I personally will not say that someone is wrong, unless I have all of the facts.
Here are all the facts. It's long and a little tedious, but if you want the facts, here they are:

Dim has called me a liar claiming that I have reversed myself about the possibility of the existence of creator gods based on a misunderstanding of what the word "nope" was denying. This saga begins at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... :

Dim wrote: "This is the first time I have ever seen you say you allow for the possibility there is a creator god but you would need proof."

IANS corrected: "No. I would need evidence best accounted for by the an intelligent designer."

On the very next post at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... we read this:

Dim wrote: "I understand you would require proof. I don't as faith is enough for me.(T) Peace"

IANS wrote: "Evidence, not proof."

A few posts later at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... this:

Dim wrote: "you need to believe you are the highest form of life and intelligence and in control of everything unless someone can conclusively prove to you otherwise?"

IANS wrote: "Why do you post that? How many times have I contradicted it?" [followed by two examples correcting "proof" and trying to restore concepts like evidence and probability, something apparently too nuanced for him to wrap his head around]

Soon thereafter comes this at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Dim wrote: "Of that we can not prove."

IANS: "You need to lose that word for two reasons: First, the right phrase is "compelling evidence," not "proof." Very little is provable."

Then this at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Dim wrote: "And yet it can't prove that."

IANS replied "Prove? Can't we make even a little progress?"

Now let's reconsider this comment at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... that Dim keeps using as evidence that I am a liar:

Dim wrote: "You also said you don't rule out the possibility of a creator god (but would require proof)"

IANS responded: "Nope. I'm not going to continue to correct you any more."

And now Dim is calling me a liar based on my "Nope," which he insists was a denial of the possibility of a creator god after admitting of the possibility, something I never did.

After I denied his claim, he posted, "Since that is exactly what he had said in a prior post and then denied it how is that not a lie?" at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

Now you know. I have been patient with him and explained myself repeatedly until I realized that he was unteachable. And he has slandered me for my efforts. Dim is out of line. Will you stand up and say so again? Will any Christian?

Let me emphasize again that I am not so much in need of apologies as I am interested in commenting on Christian values in practice. I hear so much about how they appear on paper, but what I experience in life is radically different, and my purpose is illuminating that discrepancy. Dim is an idiot and a slanderer,and the Christian community complacently condones it despite my exhortations for them to take a stand.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491104 Feb 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Just get you some forgiveness on demand, and you're ready to go out and do it again.
trifecta1 wrote:
you envy Jesus that he forgives?
Is that what you got out of that?

No. I condemn cheap self-forgiveness using a mythical ghost.

Did you see my exposé on Dim immediately above this? Why are so many of you unable to comprehend the written word? It's especially alarming given how much you rely on a bible.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491105 Feb 20, 2013
mobile7 wrote:
You want somebody to beg you for forgiveness just to make you look like you are right and they are wrong??
That's not my reason at all.
mobile7 wrote:
Forgiveness can't be demanded
I think it can. I think that I did just that.
mobile7 wrote:
now you want to drag people into your argument that has nothing to do with your childish behavior. Maybe you will grow up during your retirement years...
My purpose is to showcase Christian ethics and Christian character. You just read what your fellow Christian Dim has done - or you can ... two or three posts above this one.

Each Christian participating on this thread has the chance to take a stand against Dim's behavior or to tacitly condone it.

You're a Christian, right? What's your reaction to Dim's behavior? Are you good with it?

Let me hazard a guess: like most Christians on this thread, you will acquiesce because you do what is comfortable rather than say to Dim that he has sinned against an unbeliever.

Why do I try to make this point? What you are doing is what the Christians did during the Inquisitions, the witch burnings and the Holocaust. You fail to be brave or strong in the face of vile behavior. I say that you have no spine. Prove me wrong if I am.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491106 Feb 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
There is no such thing as spiritual discernment when it comes to understanding the printed word. There is only literacy and reading comprehension, both of which seem to be in short supply around here.
trifecta1 wrote:
Yes there is spiritual Discernment.
Rather obvious by you using a verse to heap false criticisms on Jesus saying Jesus meant one thing...when Jesus no mean what you say.
Yes there is spiritual discernment, and you have Zero to Nil, for a fact.
Nice rebuttal: "Nuh-uh!"

Do you ever defend a position with information? No, you don't, do you?

Your bible is vague and it contradicts itself. That makes it difficult to understand - not deep.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491107 Feb 20, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Dane is in my top 100. His spot is precarious.
Here's Mike Epps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UTQu0EJlOAMXX
He was new to me. I hope that that wasn't his best stuff.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491108 Feb 20, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
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hi "phisician"
did you run around to apply for part time job at least to reduce walfare foodstamps???
No. Why would I? I don't care about how much you spend on that.

These days, my concerns for America are pretty much limited to promoting secular humanism there over the Internet. I'll comment on American medicine and American politics from time to time, but only in passing.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#491109 Feb 20, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
If they've bought into the doctrine, the doctrine is in.
Five cents, please: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6unugr2sS1...

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Fennario

#491110 Feb 20, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
You have criticized, with cheap shots, Skombolis
You've got that reversed.
Here For Now wrote:
I don’t think he cares what you think
That's kind of my point, isn't it? He has forgiven himself.
Here For Now wrote:
If I want advice about something I will not be asking you. Now Skombolis, him I would ask.
LOL.

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