“let's do this thang!”

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#490671 Feb 19, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. for the homosexual, it's quite natural ..
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.. really? And, as Oscar would ask, "How do you know what you know" ??..
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.. fascinating. Have you begun writing your book yet ??..
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.. I call BS. If your gay friends knew your feelings, they would no longer be your friend ..
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.. if I call you an immoral abomination, a demon infested degenerate, how is a casual and respectful conversation possible ??..
"for the homosexual, it's quite natural"

it becomes quite natural for an obese person to stuff themselves with much more calories than they will ever burn, but that doesn't make gluttony an acceptable way of life to promote through favorable legisltation.

we all have obese friends who are undiciplined and LOVE to eat types of foods & more of them than what's good for them, but we love them still and try to demonstrate what a healthy eating lifestyle can look like:)

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#490672 Feb 19, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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So do you not see any bigotry coming from the Christian side? Are some peoples post even though ugly and vile toward gays okay since they believe it to be God/Jesus inspired?
Most of you believe homosexuality is a sin...I get that whether I agree with that or not. Does that Bible tell you that that it is okay to stone them to death? The words that have been thrown around in here are just as or more so hurtful than if someone had hurled stones.
If it is okay...what is going on in here...then why the lesson..."Cast The First Stone"?
There are a couple of things about that story...
First Jesus stood up to an angry mob...took the risk to protect a woman that had sinned. That had to take some courage to stand up for what he perceived as "right" knowing that he too could have endured some of those stones.
Second...He did not say...Ye that have not committed the sin of adultery cast the first stone...it was “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
Maybe some of those that are casting stones are without sin.
I understand why you see bigotry from the other side...you feel as if your faith is being threatened. Might sound strange...but I have seen it too.
I think about that quote...something like this...those who fight monsters need to be careful not to become monsters.
I think that is what has happened here...both sides need to look in to that abyss...and see what is staring back.
I understand...hard not to fall in to the mud when it is on our perspective side of the fence.
As I have read here...I don't want to become that monster that I fight...I don't want to look in to that abyss and see that I am no better than what I fight against...as much as I like to walk in mud puddles...I do not want to become covered with the muck.
There are many good Christians...non-Christians... straights and gays...that are just trying to make this world a little better than what they found it.
Oh well...I suppose this battle will continue...both sides vilifying the other...I think...
I will empty my bucket of stones...
Now, dear Annie, you don't expect many Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus do ya "
They's jes gonna find some kind a scuse to keep hatin and judgin everyone. It keeps them from havin ta take a good looksee at theyselves.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#490673 Feb 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Such Christian love.
You should post this over on WSJLM, too.
My mistake. That was so vile I thought I was on a different thread.

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#490674 Feb 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Such Christian love.
You should post this over on WSJLM, too.
What ya want baby to put another rattlesnake in your bed.lol

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

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#490675 Feb 19, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"for the homosexual, it's quite natural"
it becomes quite natural for an obese person to stuff themselves with much more calories than they will ever burn, but that doesn't make gluttony an acceptable way of life to promote through favorable legisltation.
we all have obese friends who are undiciplined and LOVE to eat types of foods & more of them than what's good for them, but we love them still and try to demonstrate what a healthy eating lifestyle can look like:)
You call obese people ungodly sinners and deny them their civil rights because you think over eating is a sin ?

BTW, gluttony is not a sin in the Bible. It was one of the "Seven Deadly Sins" introduced into Christianity by Pope Gregory a few centuries after Jesus was dead.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#490676 Feb 19, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Well, I'm da man now. I'm the Pastor of the Thread
Sung to Master Of The House.

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#490677 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I doubt it. You'll have to show me. Link me to my words.
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Indoctrination is a nuanced concept. The word applies to ideas ranging from something helpful such as enculturation, to sinister downloads as with cults. Learning your language is one kind of indoctrination, whereas becoming a Moonie a completely different kind.
I never used the word endoctrination. As usual, it is your word being put into my mouth followed by finger wagging about it. Why do you insist on doing that? You apparently can't make an argument about my ideas using my words such as "training" and "characterisitic way of thinking."
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Show me where I said that. You're lying when you claim I did. You substituted another word, and are assigning it its more sinister meaning just to point your finger at me for it.
I suggest that you put it back up your nose where it belongs.
IANS tactics 101

So you really are going to deny you said to Juicy she got you all wrong and was pulling a Skom when she said you feel all or most Christians are indoctrinated?

Tell ya what, if I go look it up will you admit you are a liar?

Th sad thing is you know you said it. Don't worry, it will be easy to find as I know it was within a day or so of the post to Brother Lee. So, will you finally admit you are a liar if I go pull it up?

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#490678 Feb 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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My mistake. That was so vile I thought I was on a different thread.
Oh poor baby I unset your little cherried up world.lol
Let me make it all better and put you back to bed with the rattlesnake to cuddle.lol

“Ditat Deus”

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#490679 Feb 19, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello,..and thanks.
I'm not trying to disprove a GOD, I simply ask those who claim there is a GOD to prove it.
I don't go into churches or homes to attack loud mouth worthless professing christians. Unlearned christians will always make noise.
Christians make the claim their GOD is valuable to the world, the world doesn't go looking for a GOD.
God can only be proven by God, not by man.

I cannot prove to you that God is real.

Only God can do that.

“Ditat Deus”

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#490680 Feb 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

God has answered me, many times.
mike wrote:
Unfortunately for you, your GOD doesn't confirm your claim.
um...

Did God tell you that?

Or did your ass?

“Ditat Deus”

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#490681 Feb 19, 2013
mike wrote:
Call upon GOD now so we all can see a GOD post on your behalf.
Since a GOD won't respond on your behalf, certainly you can understand why those who think for themselves would ask for proof rather than take your "word" for it.
God isn't a genie in a bottle. One can't simply rub his bible three times & make God appear.

On a side note, I think it's great that you're actively searching for God.

“Ditat Deus”

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#490682 Feb 19, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. can I fetch you a cup of coffee, sir ??..
.. how would you like your eggs scrambled? Bacon or sausage ??..
It's a shame you don't play on "our team"...
:)

“Ditat Deus”

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#490683 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yay HL and RR!
Baby steps, you sumbitch, baby steps.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#490684 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Bingo. Just get you some forgiveness on demand, and you're ready to go out and do it again.
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Mocking Christ.
Nope. Mocking shoddy Christian ethics. Look at this thread. What a mess.
Chris Clearwater wrote:
I would bet you wouldn't mock a Muslim or a Buddhist as you do Christians here.
You'd lose. In an analogous situation, I'd use the exact same words.

But what if you were right? Would that invalidate my claims. Christians are free to forgive themselves without apologizing to their victims, nor making amends. Can you successfully dispute that?

Look at Dimwit here - Skombolis. He's as clearly wrong as he can be. Christianity not only has no mechanism for preventing him from shirking his moral obligation, it facilitates it by teaching them that if he whispers at the light fixture that he has repented and is forgiven by the only two people that count - himself, and the reflection of that that he calls god.

But the body of Christ will lovingly correct him and reign him in, or the Spirit will move in him, right? Have you been following along?

On the other hand, have you witnessed the humanists and how we interact? Have you seen how our values manifest in us? We respect reason and compassion. We offer that to one another, and to those of you that care about such things, of which there have been a few.

Compare that with the behavior of the Christians and how they interact with one another.

I'm proud to be part of a much better ideology. Our values are not only better than Christian values wherever they are in conflict, we actually embody ours. You won't see any of us bickering, feuding, or flinging feces at one another like the Christians do - just giving reasoned, compassionate arguments.

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#490685 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That's exactly what it means, Dim.
A future that can be known fully and in advance is determined. Free will means that decisions are made at the time of action, are undetermined - that is, uncaused - and cannot be known in advance even by those making them, since they are free to change their minds.
Your bible is simply in error again. It reflects the simplistic thinking of people like you and the bronze age thinkers that wrote it, who really didn't understand what free will is. Just because you have an unconflicted and unimpeded intention to act and then do so doesn't mean that you chose to have it or that it was not the result of deterministic processes.
Don't forget to wash the windshield and check the oil.
LOL

IANS is going to tell everybody the rules of knowing the future

Tell me IANS, what scientific method did you use to determine someone knowing the future choices someone else will make eliminates their free will even though they look at the choices they made AFTER they made them by looking into the future?

It is such simple concepts like these that are hilarious to listen to you guys try to argue against the Bible with.

So do you believe if someone on Earth right now knows the future but doesn't tell anyone that him having that knowledge means none of us have free will?

Pay attention, it simply means someone can see what CHOICES we made on the days we made them. We still have free will and the ability to make any choice we wanted and whatever choice we picked would be what someone who could see into the future would see

They didn't dictate our choices thus making them predestined, they simply would have the ability to see what we chose

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#490686 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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To the best of my recollection, you've never denied that your mother was a whore. If somebody can't even bring themselves to deny such an allegation about his own mother, the sense I get about them and their mother is not a good one.
Like I said, I love watching these these new and "improved" ethics of a society without God

I have no reason to need to deny it because i have never said anything that would remotely suggest it. You on the other hand have made many comments which leads me to believe you never cared about your patients. In fact I just saw another post telling me to play social worker and what-not since clearly you were not the kind of doctor who took a personal interest in his patients. You did the bare minimum required by law and to cover your butt and then walked away. You come across as someone more concerned about you when dealing with your patients and them suing you then whether or not they get better. You must have have been just an awful doctor. You probably told yourself you got rid of patients who didn't follow instructions. My guess is they left you in droves

You will remain in basement, which is quite fitting for a doctor who doesn't care about his patients

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#490687 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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On the other hand, have you witnessed the humanists and how we interact? Have you seen how our values manifest in us? We respect reason and compassion.
LOL

You have named your little group the "humanists"?

Wow do you have delusions of grandeur

You are a nobody dude. You are a retired doctor who didn't care about his patients that comes online asking people if they sleep with sheep and sell drugs to children and if their mother is a whore and think because you got some people with gaping holes in their lives to look up to you that you are some movement?

The humanists?

How about "the delusionists"?

~snicker

When you die there will be just as many Christians as today give or take 1%

These hours upon hours and little personal manifestos you write are nothing more than an old man who still wants to feel important after leaving a job in which he had a god-complex yet sucked at his job in the ways that counted the most. Go feed some pigeons. You will actually accomplish more.

“Quo Vadis”

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#490688 Feb 19, 2013
Knowledge wrote:
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Correction, God DID make Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Indeed Ms. Knowledge, indeed.
I am sure glad your name isn't Ms. Information though.

:)+)

Andrew (CS).

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#490689 Feb 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Nope. Mocking shoddy Christian ethics. Look at this thread. What a mess.
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You'd lose. In an analogous situation, I'd use the exact same words.
But what if you were right? Would that invalidate my claims. Christians are free to forgive themselves without apologizing to their victims, nor making amends. Can you successfully dispute that?
Look at Dimwit here - Skombolis. He's as clearly wrong as he can be. Christianity not only has no mechanism for preventing him from shirking his moral obligation, it facilitates it by teaching them that if he whispers at the light fixture that he has repented and is forgiven by the only two people that count - himself, and the reflection of that that he calls god.
But the body of Christ will lovingly correct him and reign him in, or the Spirit will move in him, right? Have you been following along?
On the other hand, have you witnessed the humanists and how we interact? Have you seen how our values manifest in us? We respect reason and compassion. We offer that to one another, and to those of you that care about such things, of which there have been a few.
Compare that with the behavior of the Christians and how they interact with one another.
I'm proud to be part of a much better ideology. Our values are not only better than Christian values wherever they are in conflict, we actually embody ours. You won't see any of us bickering, feuding, or flinging feces at one another like the Christians do - just giving reasoned, compassionate arguments.
Code blue code blue Dr shrink,Dr Reality crash cart needed is a cor on the floor with patient ianso.His values are dieing.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#490690 Feb 19, 2013
Greetings, salutations, and shalowm, all.

It's been a little while, but I should be back, now. I had a family member, from Boston, visit, and I think they'll be with us for a little while. I didn't think it appropriate to continue here while trying to spend time with them, too, trying to catch up and all. We've caught up, I think. I'm, also, trying to encourage them to join us here. We'll see. But, anyway and like I said, I should be back. So, with that being said...post, so I can jump in.(smile)

Until next time, my friends...

May the shalowm of our 'Elohiym rest here.

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