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#490516 Feb 18, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Wow, that's an interesting take.
No... Jesus didn't commit suicide. Judas did though. I suppose Jesus put Himself up on that cross all by Himself maybe?

Come on, now.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#490517 Feb 18, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
And if a man shall take his sister,his father's daughter or his mother's daughter and see her nakedness and she see his nakedness it is a wicked thing and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people he hath uncovered his sister;s nakedness he shall bear his iniquity.
Leviticus 20:17
Woops. Adam and Eve's kiddies kinda broke that rule for you, huh?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#490518 Feb 18, 2013
Bigots? What bigots?
mike

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#490519 Feb 18, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No, it will cause more people to give up the "God-concept."
Thanks!

Is there anything we can do to help these poor creatures?

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#490520 Feb 18, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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A jug of wine, A leg of lamb And thou! Beside me, Whistling in the darkness. Be Ye Not Lost Among Precepts of Order. The Book of Uteronomy 1;5
For the life of the flesh is in the blood and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an antonement for your souls;for it is the blood that maketh an antonement for the soul.Leviticus 17:11

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#490521 Feb 18, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>You didn't have to... you don't want to understand. You have your mind made up and are pro-fornications.
<quoted text>Here we go with the semantics folks... it will never end will it? What is so hard to understand about that passage? Again, it's not that you truly want to understand... you already have your mind made up no matter how clear it is.
Let's flip the script since we're into semantics: Some women actually like men other than their husbands looking at their butts so they would put on tight-fitting jeans to show off their butt, on purpose. I would think that they are guilty also. I'm not saying that this is the case but you do have women that try to be seductive on purpose.
We have men who try to be seductive too Quin. Men work out at the gym; mostly to "build muscles and Look good"..Oh yeah, YOU work out at the gym all the time..ooops. dang Q, Everytime you point your finger at someone for the things "THEY" do..There are 3 fingers pointing back at YOU. You are just as guilty. The more that I read your judgemental post, The more that I am beginning to realize that YOU would make a good legalistic Religious Preacher. Nothing to brag on but you fit the mold.

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#490522 Feb 18, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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ROFLMAO
Sorry Quin but you don't think things through. Unless Jesus nailed himself to the cross, there is someone else to thank.
Caiphus, Pilate, The Jews, The Romans, etc.
If not for them you and I would be 'damned to hell'.
Originally you told me I should thank satan.. I replied that we should only worship the Lord God and Him only shall we serve...

Caiphus, Pilate, The other Jewish Leaders, The Roman Occupancy... whether good or bad God can make it work out for good regardless of men's opposition to Him. If I were to do as you suggest then that would be like me enjoying a glass of Ice Tea and thanking my carpet for allowing me to look at it while I drink. Thank you Pilate for allowing the scourging of an innocent man which you knew was innocent?

No... I thank the God for His Son... I thank His Son for His Love and enduring the Cross for us... He didn't have to.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#490523 Feb 18, 2013
Knowledge wrote:
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Repeat child predators? Today, they are never allowed to own a car or a drivers license, be at least 500 feet from a park or school. They are not allowed to go in State and Federal parks in the state that I live. You would give them back their rights, knowing they can not/will not change? What about child offenders?
I wasn't focusing on any specific type of crime. In fact, the issue was raised in connection with Skombolis.

Again. It is my view that, once a person has fully served his or her sentence for a crime, including the required period of parole, that person should be considered rehabilitated as a criminal or, if you prefer, the person will have paid his debt to society for his or her crime. There is no justifiable reason to deny the person the right to vote. This would just serve to marginalize people and possibly increase recidivism.

Yes, there are often certain restrictions on sex offenders--registration requirements, housing restrictions, perhaps others in some states. I wasn't addressing these, some of which are controversial and are currently undergoing review in the courts. There are also statutes permitting civil commitment, at the end of the criminal sentence, of persons deemed by psychiatric experts to be sexual predators. Obviously, these people are not eligible for restoration of civil rights.
mike

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#490524 Feb 18, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Knowing what choice someone will make ahead time doesn't mean they didn't have a choice. That choice simply can be seen in advance
I don't understand how this keeps coming up and am not going to get into a long debate about it but according to the logic you guys employ if Ms Cleo really could see into the future it would mean man has no free will
It makes no sense. By looking into the future what one is really doing is putting themselves at a point in time where the events they are looking at have already taken place and are now part of the past. Them having the ability to do so in no way altered or dictated those events
I respect you Hiding but this particular way of thinking has never made any sense. The only way someone knowing someone else's future could possible have any impact on that person is if they told the person ahead of time what their future was. Then by knowing that it might cause them to act differently. But being able to see what someone decided to do by looking into the future in no way took away their free will. Had Judas made a different choice than that is what God would have seen by knowing the future.
Hello Skombolis

Try this,...if jesus was ordained to come to earth before creation, wouldn't that imply adam and eve, as well as judas had no choice but to do what they did?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

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#490525 Feb 18, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>No... Jesus didn't commit suicide. Judas did though. I suppose Jesus put Himself up on that cross all by Himself maybe?
Come on, now.
Either you believe Jesus is the son of your deity or you don't. If Jesus was, then he committed suicide. If Jesus was just a man, he was executed.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#490526 Feb 18, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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For whosoever shall commit any of these abomination even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from their people.Leviticus 18:29
Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance that ye commit not any one of theses abominable customs which were committed before you and that ye defile not yourselves therein;I am the Lord your God.Leviticus 18:30
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Robopost?

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Since: Mar 11

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#490527 Feb 18, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Funny!
Thanks

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#490528 Feb 18, 2013
mike wrote:
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Thanks!
Is there anything we can do to help these poor creatures?
I think the very best we can do for them is to help them realize that other people's understandings of reality are equally valid to their own. Kind of an empathy training. Most will fail here, though.

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#490529 Feb 18, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Woops. Adam and Eve's kiddies kinda broke that rule for you, huh?
Turn ye not unto idols nor make to yourselves molten gods.I am the Lord your God.Leviticus 19:4
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#490531 Feb 18, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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More bigotry on display. You like so many are just what you claim to hate.
Hey Chris,
Exactly, I donít know if they donít see it or donít care but I agree with you.

Good to see you Bro.
HFN

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#490532 Feb 18, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I think some people take the literal meaning of words in their holy books! It can't mean that, it can't!
The spirit is serious as a heart beat or the blink of a eye.
God is not be mocked and His Book is not to be mocked either.

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#490533 Feb 18, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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That's a bit silly. You're claiming that an all-powerful, all-knowing deity had nothing to do with Judas's betrayal?
Yes. Judas had his own free will but was corrupt in thinking. It's like this...
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Rather, the mythology suggests that the Christian deity orchestrated events to sacrifice Himself.
Yes... even so, God has His own will and has also give to mankind freewill also.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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He destroyed Judas's free will,
Wrong.. God just knew what He was up to ahead of time.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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forcing Judas to betray his friend.
No Actually, Judas was a gold-digger, well... a silver-digger in this case.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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That's why Judas kills himself later - he's so disgusted with his God that he chooses to destroy his body, his temple.
It's true that he killed himself but he wasn't disgusted with God... Judas was disgusted with Himself for being such a treacherous person.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Poor Judas.
Poor Judas is in hell right now.
mike

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#490534 Feb 18, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I think the very best we can do for them is to help them realize that other people's understandings of reality are equally valid to their own. Kind of an empathy training. Most will fail here, though.
Thanks

Just my attempt at some humor!
mike

AOL

#490535 Feb 18, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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The spirit is serious as a heart beat or the blink of a eye.
God is not be mocked and His Book is not to be mocked either.
Or else what?

Do you have the power, or just wishful thinking?

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#490536 Feb 18, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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How sick and stupid were the people in the middle east, if God had to give them lectures like this? Ewwwwww, yuck!!
Would ya like for me to tell you all about uncleaness of a woman when she flowers and the uncleaness of a man ya know it is in the Holy Bible.

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