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You not only come against His truth Qu..
You believe yourself to be Him..
It's very human of you, but.. a very slippery slope.
It's like I have to yell "LOOK OUT!!- to all
those you and your pride are knocking into on your way
down that slope..
Slope to what..you may ask?
Well.. by your own standards of judging..maybe
you will also be judged??
Le le, you have closed your eyes to the truth of God's Word... your spiritual ears are full of wax and your heart is hard against the Lord.

...that is not to say that we are not suppose to love the people who are gay... but you are doing your extreme best to bend over backwards in helping to promote this vile wickedness. You and your kind are fighting against the Lord. You guys will get your homosexual marriage, that is no doubt. It doesn't seem vile to you because you yourself have a corrupt and vile spirit just like your spiritual father. You don't see past your own "what-seems-like" obsessive compulsory disorder and high-mindedness but yet you accuse others of such because they speak out against this evil... you are simply a hypocrite to God's Word, to the tee.

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"The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." John 1:5

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According to your Bible, God sent the Evil among us.
Just like throwing a rattlesnake in a crib.
Bible God is Evil. That you can't accept the truth is your problem, not mine.
Most of you are so afraid of your deity you can't even admit the truth about it. Very sad.
According to my spirit belief;
According to my Bible God has shown he can even love the wicked.
He gave his all when he gave his son to the cross.Knowing full well he would be coming back to heaven with him.(In total perfection)(sinless).Now I ask again do you know what it is to love the wicked.
I excepted the truth along time ago.I am a sinner not perfect.
Now I ask again do you know what is is to love the sinful.
Nothing sad about love,forgiveness,compassion for mankind.

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Skombolis wrote:
I am glad people can see just how some of you operate
You want to claim a statement saying Christians don't need to apologize or make amends to those they hurt because they can ask the sky for forgiveness, something he later clarified would be the act of a person with bad character taking advantage of a 'loophole" AND something you already admitted contained a jab at Christians, wasn't a negative implication or stereotype.
Its laughable to someone honest
I am claiming, that any statement made about Christian doctrine cannot be a stereotype. If it's negative, it's negative. Saying so is just illuminating that fact.

If you have a strong emotional need to feel offended or persecuted, then maybe you should refrain from interacting with people outside of your sect.

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I keep hearing that, until we heathens came over here, this thread was such a Christian love-fest.
What's up with that?
I have been here for 5 years and am not sure why every one
keeps saying that about this thread..lol.
Some here have indeed formed really nice sincere relationships here and in
the RW..
-Some have not..

I think the draw has always been the threads's ability to
maintain a human character..Through many many toils, this thread
and it's peeps have survived..it's
is a special place for some of us.

You should have been here when Qu first came.. he assigned at least 15 people here as different officers (all in private messages..lol). some being "security patrol"..others "elders"..
He wanted to be their "pastor" so to speak, and wanted this thread for
"his" personal church..
-those that wished he'd simply take a hike- became his virtual enemies.

There's alot of history here, some I am extremely happy I participated in, and some.. not so much..

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So now not only you are answering all my posts to IANS, you are going to respond to my posts to Hiding about IANS?
Honest question, was your father around when you were growing up and if so did you get along with him?
Sorry Skom, I do love you very much but I am compelled to answer this question.

My pagan/Catholic mother blanked my real Brasilian father out of my life with lies, so that I could be raised with my Catholic step father, who physically, mentally, sexually, emotionally and (my mother) spiritually abused me from the ages of 4-12, she accused me of being possessed by demons and yet never took me to their Priest for an exorcism. Have you been aware of world events for the past 2000 years or so?

Things are not always as they seem my friend <3

Luke 11:19-20

"And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Is there something wrong with communicating that I am unaware of? What is negative about responding to posts?
Do you have out an imaginary magnifying glass looking for ways of making fun of me?
I'll give you some helpful advice. You aren't going to be able to make fun of me or shame me in any way. You're free to keep trying, in fact, please do.
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I guess there HAS to be something for you to insult, even if you have to make it up.
I am not making up anything. You have spent a tremendous amount of time running to the defense of IANS, speaking for him, replying to posts to and about him and have done this all over Topix. You do this mainly just with IANS. Clearly you do it for him for a reason. I may not know the exact reason but can't imagine what explanation would make any difference. To me it is very strange to see a man so vested in another man on the Internet. I mean this isn't like once in a while. This can easily be described as an obsession.

But why don't you just tell me then. Why is it you have taken the role of what I think can reasonably be characterized as IANS 'Topix bodyguard'? Are you seeking his gratitude? You want his approval? You think he needs your protection? What is it as I can't think of what else it may be?

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I keep hearing that, until we heathens came over here, this thread was such a Christian love-fest.
What's up with that?
If I concurred that homosexual marriage was legit and a majority also agreed to that type of nuptials and congratulated the first two homosexuals who announce their wedding plans on here... or consentual with silence (majority) then I think you would have your Christian love feast.

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<quoted text>Le le, you have closed your eyes to the truth of God's Word..
Says you..

But again, like I said-
who do you think you are- in the scheme of things- to judge
another?

You think you are God??-huh?

Oh well, enough for right now..
You aren't ready to "hear"..

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That didn't answer my question.
Where did it say to be prideful and intolerant
to your fellow man-
in His Name.. Where do you believe Jesus gave you this command
and this right to judge another human being, as you do?
You are so hard-hearted that you cannot even understand this scripture:

"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret."
Ephesians 5:11

I have not even mentioned "fisting"... I haven't mentioned planned parenthoods initial teaching of fisting to teens (Safe Sex... fisting)... well, I guess I mentioned that now and mentioned the gerbils and all of those things which supposedly stimulate the prostrate so that the homosexuals can get a prostrate orgasm. It's supposedly not okay to speak your Christian values in public but it's okay for two men to lock lips and kiss in front of my kids, right?

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Yes.
It isn't throwing rattlesnakes in a baby's crib.
What you upset to learn God did not kill satan.
You think of satan as a rattlesnake and yet you deal
with him everyday when something goes wrong in your
life but then you turn around and put the responible on God.
It is so easy to point the finger at God when it was you who
decided something yourself.Much like last night lol sorry you got this one coming raskel,last night you decided to put that mind of yours in the gutter God did not do that you did yet bet you blame God for it.That rattlesnake was talkin up a storm to you.lol Guess you could say the baby thru the rattlesnake in your bed.lol.No you not learned to love yet.

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Juicylu wrote:
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Sorry Skom, I do love you very much but I am compelled to answer this question.
My pagan/Catholic mother blanked my real Brasilian father out of my life with lies, so that I could be raised with my Catholic step father, who physically, mentally, sexually, emotionally and (my mother) spiritually abused me from the ages of 4-12, she accused me of being possessed by demons and yet never took me to their Priest for an exorcism. Have you been aware of world events for the past 2000 years or so?
Things are not always as they seem my friend <3
Luke 11:19-20
"And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."
Jesus
Don't get me wrong my friend, I am not suggesting there is some sort of template that all follow based on childhood experiences or absentee fathers. Both my parents were around, I got along great with my father and not so much my mother growing up. Different situations sometimes lead to different results in people when they get older.

IMO, for Tide it is very, very important to him that he defends IANS. He speaks for him, responds to any post to him or about him, and has done this all over Topix. In my experience for a man to put another man outside of his family on this type of pedestal normally is because of two things. Either they are not very secure and have some sort of hero-worship thing going on. Followers often elevate the person they are following to unrealistic heights. Or it is filling some sort of hole created through abandonment or neglect. Perhaps he wants the approval of a father figure to make up for what he didn't get growing up

I majored in Criminal Justice and Sociology so it is just how my mind tends to work to. I get curious when I see things like this and want to know the root cause. Tide didn't just out of the blue decide to single out IANS for protection. He is doing it for a reason. I simply want to know what

I hope you know I was not broad-brushing or claiming to know what all bad childhoods lead to. I just know in some cases what the effect of not having a father around has had on people. Although it normally is more common in adulthood to see it in women it certainly isn't limited to women. But say for example a woman who becomes a stripper often has either abuse or abandonment issues from her father and now seeks the approval of other men to make up for it.

There are no rules set in stone but often childhood can explain a lot. Hope than answers helped a little anyway.

(T) Peace
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Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>It is written ms. devil, "...because as He is, so are we in this world."
Get thee hence...


so, this Quinn must be the forum preacher? lol

topics is the only place that will allow him to lie?
If he is like Jesus does that mean Jesus calls people worthless a nd devils? I like your Jesus better.

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Le_le wrote:
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I have been here for 5 years and am not sure why every one
keeps saying that about this thread..lol.
Some here have indeed formed really nice sincere relationships here and in
the RW..
-Some have not..
I think the draw has always been the threads's ability to
maintain a human character..Through many many toils, this thread
and it's peeps have survived..it's
is a special place for some of us.
You should have been here when Qu first came.. he assigned at least 15 people here as different officers (all in private messages..lol). some being "security patrol"..others "elders"..
He wanted to be their "pastor" so to speak, and wanted this thread for
"his" personal church..
-those that wished he'd simply take a hike- became his virtual enemies.
There's alot of history here, some I am extremely happy I participated in, and some.. not so much..
I tell you what so I can show everyone how much of a liar and hypocrite you are... break out the list and show everyone where I set myself up as Pastor if you can... hopefully it will be the original.

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Nobody has claimed we don't argue but the difference is the people in this room didn't come here with the intention of arguing nor is anyone IMO normally seeking out a fight. When differences in opinion over doctrine or interpretation arise it can create tension and lead to disagreements and fights.
Do you deny you guys came here in a group effort to stir things up?
But you have a point, it does start with us. We can simply choose to ignore anythinweg that looks like it is designed solely to provoke an argument. I personally don't care who believes what as far as who is welcome if they are here to be civil. But to me there is a difference between civil and passive-aggressive. I see nothing civil about the goal being to create problems no matter how subtly someone goes about it. Sincere inquiries and debates are a different matter
I believe I was the first visitor, and mentioned the thread over at the PTAG and Atheism forums. Others then came over, some shortly after I did, others later.

I do deny that there was any group effort to stir things up, or for any other purpose.

There was no "conspiracy."

As for the "civility" factor, I do see some bad stuff going on here between certain Christians. Hardly sincere inquiries and debates; more like nasty jabs and personal insults. I mentioned this only because we "outsiders" have been blamed.

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I am claiming, that any statement made about Christian doctrine cannot be a stereotype. If it's negative, it's negative. Saying so is just illuminating that fact.
If you have a strong emotional need to feel offended or persecuted, then maybe you should refrain from interacting with people outside of your sect.
The implication was that Christians would use a "loophole" in doctrine so as not to have to make amends for hurting people

If you can't be honest you may want to refrain from interacting with people outside your group

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Skombolis wrote:
I simply can't fathom what would cause a man to be this vested in defending another man on the Internet.
I can't either. Good thing that's not happening. My motivation is exposing your behavior.
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You have done this in other rooms as well. Yet mainly just with IANS. The only reasons I can think of is you think he is this weak, know he has been exposed this badly, or you have some sort of desire to defend him and for him to appreciate you defending him that surpasses just abut anything i have witnessed on Topix.
It was fortuitous that you made so many mistakes while talking to IANS, instead of someone else. IANS is dependable enough that I could count on him to continue holding your nose in it. If it was someone else you were slandering, I'd probably have been mostly on my own in dissecting your behavior.

Somebody need to teach you some manners.
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You have spoken for IANS a few times and have shown yourself to believe you have a pretty good idea of what he thinks on certain subjects. So, was IANS being honest when he denied he thinks all or most Christians are indoctrinated?
I don't know. I think almost all Christians are indoctrinated. Some may be so gullible that they would have accepted any claim without indoctrination, but for most people they need to be indoctrinated.
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I am just curious how far you will take this. I think it helps for those reading to see too.
How considerate of you.

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Chop chop... anyone who has the former list.. anyone? Show me where Que Avanza was at on that list as a Pastor?

Let's go.
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Le_le wrote:
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Says you..
But again, like I said-
who do you think you are- in the scheme of things- to judge
another?
You think you are God??-huh?
Oh well, enough for right now..
You aren't ready to "hear"..
he can judge anyone according to his fellings.
but you? if you are not going to be judged,just shut your face,and step down from accusing his to be Judge

what a heck going on with all of you dumb cursed as.....les

if he thinks he is god, that is ok with all of us?

but what a propblem is with you dumb butt?

quin is never ready to hear anything from such primitive thinking idiots like you???

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Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>You are so hard-hearted that you cannot even understand this scripture:
"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret."
Ephesians 5:11
I have not even mentioned "fisting"... I haven't mentioned planned parenthoods initial teaching of fisting to teens (Safe Sex... fisting)... well, I guess I mentioned that now and mentioned the gerbils and all of those things which supposedly stimulate the prostrate so that the homosexuals can get a prostrate orgasm. It's supposedly not okay to speak your Christian values in public but it's okay for two men to lock lips and kiss in front of my kids, right?
Stupid Christian.
OK.

This is a perfect example of what I was talking about.

This is a Christian poster? I think Jesus would freak if he read this sort of thing.

By the way, Mr. Q, in case you are interested, the gland is called prostate, not prostrate.

If you aren't ready for decency, you may as well learn some biology.

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I believe I was the first visitor, and mentioned the thread over at the PTAG and Atheism forums. Others then came over, some shortly after I did, others later.
I do deny that there was any group effort to stir things up, or for any other purpose.
There was no "conspiracy."
As for the "civility" factor, I do see some bad stuff going on here between certain Christians. Hardly sincere inquiries and debates; more like nasty jabs and personal insults. I mentioned this only because we "outsiders" have been blamed.
I didn't say it was a conspiracy

Another poster said you suggested people coming him. About half a dozen people in your 'group'(I think that is a fair characterization) did come here.

I didn't see anyone claim all the problems are due to you guys however. I did see one post suggesting if people are just here for trouble then its best to ignore them, not that no trouble ever existed prior

There had to be a reason you suggested people come here. So if you don't mind me asking, what was the reason?

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