Since: Mar 09

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#489573 Feb 17, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Skom, I do love you very much but I am compelled to answer this question.
My pagan/Catholic mother blanked my real Brasilian father out of my life with lies, so that I could be raised with my Catholic step father, who physically, mentally, sexually, emotionally and (my mother) spiritually abused me from the ages of 4-12, she accused me of being possessed by demons and yet never took me to their Priest for an exorcism. Have you been aware of world events for the past 2000 years or so?
Things are not always as they seem my friend <3
Luke 11:19-20
"And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."
Jesus
Don't get me wrong my friend, I am not suggesting there is some sort of template that all follow based on childhood experiences or absentee fathers. Both my parents were around, I got along great with my father and not so much my mother growing up. Different situations sometimes lead to different results in people when they get older.

IMO, for Tide it is very, very important to him that he defends IANS. He speaks for him, responds to any post to him or about him, and has done this all over Topix. In my experience for a man to put another man outside of his family on this type of pedestal normally is because of two things. Either they are not very secure and have some sort of hero-worship thing going on. Followers often elevate the person they are following to unrealistic heights. Or it is filling some sort of hole created through abandonment or neglect. Perhaps he wants the approval of a father figure to make up for what he didn't get growing up

I majored in Criminal Justice and Sociology so it is just how my mind tends to work to. I get curious when I see things like this and want to know the root cause. Tide didn't just out of the blue decide to single out IANS for protection. He is doing it for a reason. I simply want to know what

I hope you know I was not broad-brushing or claiming to know what all bad childhoods lead to. I just know in some cases what the effect of not having a father around has had on people. Although it normally is more common in adulthood to see it in women it certainly isn't limited to women. But say for example a woman who becomes a stripper often has either abuse or abandonment issues from her father and now seeks the approval of other men to make up for it.

There are no rules set in stone but often childhood can explain a lot. Hope than answers helped a little anyway.

(T) Peace
mobile7

Mullins, SC

#489574 Feb 17, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>It is written ms. devil, "...because as He is, so are we in this world."
Get thee hence...


so, this Quinn must be the forum preacher? lol

topics is the only place that will allow him to lie?
If he is like Jesus does that mean Jesus calls people worthless a nd devils? I like your Jesus better.

A

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#489575 Feb 17, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been here for 5 years and am not sure why every one
keeps saying that about this thread..lol.
Some here have indeed formed really nice sincere relationships here and in
the RW..
-Some have not..
I think the draw has always been the threads's ability to
maintain a human character..Through many many toils, this thread
and it's peeps have survived..it's
is a special place for some of us.
You should have been here when Qu first came.. he assigned at least 15 people here as different officers (all in private messages..lol). some being "security patrol"..others "elders"..
He wanted to be their "pastor" so to speak, and wanted this thread for
"his" personal church..
-those that wished he'd simply take a hike- became his virtual enemies.
There's alot of history here, some I am extremely happy I participated in, and some.. not so much..
I tell you what so I can show everyone how much of a liar and hypocrite you are... break out the list and show everyone where I set myself up as Pastor if you can... hopefully it will be the original.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#489576 Feb 17, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody has claimed we don't argue but the difference is the people in this room didn't come here with the intention of arguing nor is anyone IMO normally seeking out a fight. When differences in opinion over doctrine or interpretation arise it can create tension and lead to disagreements and fights.
Do you deny you guys came here in a group effort to stir things up?
But you have a point, it does start with us. We can simply choose to ignore anythinweg that looks like it is designed solely to provoke an argument. I personally don't care who believes what as far as who is welcome if they are here to be civil. But to me there is a difference between civil and passive-aggressive. I see nothing civil about the goal being to create problems no matter how subtly someone goes about it. Sincere inquiries and debates are a different matter
I believe I was the first visitor, and mentioned the thread over at the PTAG and Atheism forums. Others then came over, some shortly after I did, others later.

I do deny that there was any group effort to stir things up, or for any other purpose.

There was no "conspiracy."

As for the "civility" factor, I do see some bad stuff going on here between certain Christians. Hardly sincere inquiries and debates; more like nasty jabs and personal insults. I mentioned this only because we "outsiders" have been blamed.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#489577 Feb 17, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I am claiming, that any statement made about Christian doctrine cannot be a stereotype. If it's negative, it's negative. Saying so is just illuminating that fact.
If you have a strong emotional need to feel offended or persecuted, then maybe you should refrain from interacting with people outside of your sect.
The implication was that Christians would use a "loophole" in doctrine so as not to have to make amends for hurting people

If you can't be honest you may want to refrain from interacting with people outside your group

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#489578 Feb 17, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
I simply can't fathom what would cause a man to be this vested in defending another man on the Internet.
I can't either. Good thing that's not happening. My motivation is exposing your behavior.
Skombolis wrote:
You have done this in other rooms as well. Yet mainly just with IANS. The only reasons I can think of is you think he is this weak, know he has been exposed this badly, or you have some sort of desire to defend him and for him to appreciate you defending him that surpasses just abut anything i have witnessed on Topix.
It was fortuitous that you made so many mistakes while talking to IANS, instead of someone else. IANS is dependable enough that I could count on him to continue holding your nose in it. If it was someone else you were slandering, I'd probably have been mostly on my own in dissecting your behavior.

Somebody need to teach you some manners.
Skombolis wrote:
You have spoken for IANS a few times and have shown yourself to believe you have a pretty good idea of what he thinks on certain subjects. So, was IANS being honest when he denied he thinks all or most Christians are indoctrinated?
I don't know. I think almost all Christians are indoctrinated. Some may be so gullible that they would have accepted any claim without indoctrination, but for most people they need to be indoctrinated.
Skombolis wrote:
I am just curious how far you will take this. I think it helps for those reading to see too.
How considerate of you.

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#489579 Feb 17, 2013
Chop chop... anyone who has the former list.. anyone? Show me where Que Avanza was at on that list as a Pastor?

Let's go.
dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#489580 Feb 17, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Says you..
But again, like I said-
who do you think you are- in the scheme of things- to judge
another?
You think you are God??-huh?
Oh well, enough for right now..
You aren't ready to "hear"..
he can judge anyone according to his fellings.
but you? if you are not going to be judged,just shut your face,and step down from accusing his to be Judge

what a heck going on with all of you dumb cursed as.....les

if he thinks he is god, that is ok with all of us?

but what a propblem is with you dumb butt?

quin is never ready to hear anything from such primitive thinking idiots like you???

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#489581 Feb 17, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>You are so hard-hearted that you cannot even understand this scripture:
"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret."
Ephesians 5:11
I have not even mentioned "fisting"... I haven't mentioned planned parenthoods initial teaching of fisting to teens (Safe Sex... fisting)... well, I guess I mentioned that now and mentioned the gerbils and all of those things which supposedly stimulate the prostrate so that the homosexuals can get a prostrate orgasm. It's supposedly not okay to speak your Christian values in public but it's okay for two men to lock lips and kiss in front of my kids, right?
Stupid Christian.
OK.

This is a perfect example of what I was talking about.

This is a Christian poster? I think Jesus would freak if he read this sort of thing.

By the way, Mr. Q, in case you are interested, the gland is called prostate, not prostrate.

If you aren't ready for decency, you may as well learn some biology.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#489582 Feb 17, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe I was the first visitor, and mentioned the thread over at the PTAG and Atheism forums. Others then came over, some shortly after I did, others later.
I do deny that there was any group effort to stir things up, or for any other purpose.
There was no "conspiracy."
As for the "civility" factor, I do see some bad stuff going on here between certain Christians. Hardly sincere inquiries and debates; more like nasty jabs and personal insults. I mentioned this only because we "outsiders" have been blamed.
I didn't say it was a conspiracy

Another poster said you suggested people coming him. About half a dozen people in your 'group'(I think that is a fair characterization) did come here.

I didn't see anyone claim all the problems are due to you guys however. I did see one post suggesting if people are just here for trouble then its best to ignore them, not that no trouble ever existed prior

There had to be a reason you suggested people come here. So if you don't mind me asking, what was the reason?

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#489583 Feb 17, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Says you..
But again, like I said-
who do you think you are- in the scheme of things- to judge
another?
You think you are God??-huh?
Oh well, enough for right now..
You aren't ready to "hear"..
Who am I? I am a child of God like some others on here as opposed to a child of the devil like yourself. Who are you to attempt stop me from my rights to free speech?
dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#489584 Feb 17, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe I was the first visitor, and mentioned the thread over at the PTAG and Atheism forums. Others then came over, some shortly after I did, others later.
I do deny that there was any group effort to stir things up, or for any other purpose.
There was no "conspiracy."
As for the "civility" factor, I do see some bad stuff going on here between certain Christians. Hardly sincere inquiries and debates; more like nasty jabs and personal insults. I mentioned this only because we "outsiders" have been blamed.
go back to your parents country and teach them your fables

you even so low IQ, that are not able to understand language of own father and mother

debates with atheists like you are worthless and true christians doesn't debate anything with stupid immoralatheistic monkey trush,

GODS ETERNAL PLAN IS ALREADY SEALED,NOT TO DEBATE WITH IDIOTS LIKE YOU

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#489585 Feb 17, 2013
mobile7 wrote:
<quoted text>
so, this Quinn must be the forum preacher? lol
topics is the only place that will allow him to lie?
If he is like Jesus does that mean Jesus calls people worthless a nd devils? I like your Jesus better.
A
Not only should you "like" our jesus better, hould LOVE him with all of your HEART and your Mind and your SOUL and your STRENGTH.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#489586 Feb 17, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>

It was fortuitous that you made so many mistakes while talking to IANS, instead of someone else.
I guess that fortuitous coincidence keeps repeating itself in room after room in Topix since I see you come to the defense of IANS probably more than probably all other posters combined

I understand why it would be hard for you as a man to admit this. But your actions speak for themselves. I was just scrolling through the "Prove there's a God" room and same deal. Over and over and over again regardless of me or other posters, anytime someone is involved with IANs you are involved. Yet when me or others are involved with other posters you barely make a peep

Do you really believe things change so drastically with the same people only when they are dealing with IANS? That is silly. You want to protect IANS and have made it your job to do so. You really can't bring yourself to say why?

That's fine, I won't press any further.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#489587 Feb 17, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
Much better...now. I've been busy picking debris out of my eyes, then washing them, check 'em out OO
<3
Lucy, Your so cute, I see there all gone... Lol

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#489588 Feb 17, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say it was a conspiracy
Another poster said you suggested people coming him. About half a dozen people in your 'group'(I think that is a fair characterization) did come here.
I didn't see anyone claim all the problems are due to you guys however. I did see one post suggesting if people are just here for trouble then its best to ignore them, not that no trouble ever existed prior
There had to be a reason you suggested people come here. So if you don't mind me asking, what was the reason?
Edit

suggested people coming HERE not HIM

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#489589 Feb 17, 2013
Where's the list Le le? I let you slide with this Pastor Q thing for too long...
dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#489590 Feb 17, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
My prison term was more honest than your doctor's practice!
Even when being called on it online you can't bring yourself to say you card about your patients. And from a guy that lies as much as you that is really saying something
People relied on you for medical care and you only cared about their money. It was so obvious to me reading your posts how you considered your patients nuisances and idiots who couldn't follow directions. That is why I knew you wouldn't answer.
When I left prison I became a better man. You stayed a drain on society your entire life, abusing people's trust to take their money.
Do you know what Ritalin does in adults yet?
I already exoerienced same time similar to yours
people like you leaving prison are 100% better humans and believers,from all those criminals who never experienced prison terms, they abuse law to protect their criminal acts on daily base,

this guy I asume as worse criminal from all those who are in prison
he dig in the trush of past to blame others, he behave like simple trush dumpster hater, and pig bringing old stories to the life justifing his wicked agendaas

we don't need apolgies to each other
WE ONLY NEED TO START NEW START IN NAME OF CHRIST ETERNAL LOVE AND BE FRIENDS IN CHRIST

believe me
You are 1000% more valuable christian with your Bible quotes as believer,
FROM THIS ATHEISTIC SPIRITUAL CRIMINAL POSTER,FILTHY WITHOUT OF OWN DESCENY AND HONOR SO CALLED "PHISICIAN" FOR MONEY STOLEN FROM SICK PEOPLE.
May God bless you skom

your spiritual work makes you valuable person deserving good words

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#489591 Feb 17, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
I am not making up anything. You have spent a tremendous amount of time running to the defense of IANS,
If that's how you need to see it to feel better, go ahead. Know that my reasons for being involved do not revolve around defending anyone. I'm on the offense here. My attempts at explaining or clarifying IANS' words were for your benefit directly, and my own indirectly. If it turns out like I hope, it will help IANS make his point too, not that you haven't already been extremely helpful.

I want you to know exactly what IANS means so that you have to evaluate your behavior in light of that. I want you to get to that point and still not apologize, to illustrate that you do not care.

If you end up rising to the occasion, good for you.
Skombolis wrote:
speaking for him, replying to posts to and about him and have done this all over Topix. You do this mainly just with IANS. Clearly you do it for him for a reason. I may not know the exact reason but can't imagine what explanation would make any difference.
I want to help demonstrate that Christianity doesn't produce better people anymore than Tuesdays do. You're helping.
Skombolis wrote:
To me it is very strange to see a man so vested in another man on the Internet.
I'm invested in ideas, tentatively.

The idea we're circling is accountability. Welcome to the conversation.
Skombolis wrote:
I mean this isn't like once in a while. This can easily be described as an obsession.
This takes almost no effort for me.
Skombolis wrote:
But why don't you just tell me then. Why is it you have taken the role of what I think can reasonably be characterized as IANS 'Topix bodyguard'? Are you seeking his gratitude? You want his approval? You think he needs your protection? What is it as I can't think of what else it may be?
Since I already told you I'll use this opportunity to expose yet another flaw in your conversation skills. This is framing questions to suit your version of reality.

Why do you eat such copious amounts of shit, Skom? Why? Do you think you're getting extra nutrients that way? Seems weird to me.

Are you trying to look cool in front of the dung beetles?

What is it as I can't think of what else it may be?

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#489592 Feb 17, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed my point.
Are you a Christian?
I believe in one God Almighty Lord, and you Teddy Bear?

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