Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488740 Feb 15, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
I dwell in the high and holy place with him also that is of contrite and humble spirit to revive the spirit of humble and to revive the heart of contrite ones.Isaiah 57:15
Contrite...HA!
Show me a person who is not contrite, and I will show you a despot and a murderer.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#488741 Feb 15, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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How long have you been on this thread now asking these same questions over, and over and over again in so many different ways? You're not asking questions to get answers because no answer will make a bit of difference to you. You're like a pre-recorded message set on repeat. You have no interest in the answers given to you except that they are given so you can ridicule them. Wasting people's time as if you have nothing better to do or you have nothing to learn.
This is disingenuous and surely hypocritical as most of you appear to be. You come in here and mock the Christians and people of other faith for their belief and stance against homosexual perversion yet you find no fault with mocking the Bible, mocking our belief in The Creator, mocking our belief in The Savior and mocking our concept of Judgment. yet you're quick to call others bigot, you and the super-hypocritical false prophet Mr. Catcher and the absurd IANS.
Your twisted hypomaic morals have lead you to believe any stance against sexual debauchery such as homosexuality must be wrong and all that believe it is must be Christians. IANS calls everyone Christians who disagrees with atheism and homosexuality. I suppose then people like you would see concsnted incest as ok, right? Brothers and sisters, mothers and sons, fathers and daughters, first cousins and father and son or mother and daughter homosexuality. Do you and teh homosexual community see this as ok once they are consenting adults?
Thanks for your timely response.
CS.
Don't speak for me CS, because you can't read my mind any better than Trifecta can. What is it with Christians who think they are psychic? Moreover, maybe I keep asking the same questions because Christians keep making the same claims. Ya think?

Since: May 09

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#488742 Feb 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Are you implying that incest should be illegal?
No, I wasn't implying that, since it is illegal in most states. I didn't think I need to imply it should be illegal since it is.

Well, Rhode Island has this odd arrangement:
"Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces if they are part of a community, such as orthodox Jews, for whom such marriages are permitted" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_i...

No, as a matter of fact I pointed out that within your mythic bible, it's often condoned.

By the deity.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488743 Feb 15, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
Wisdom is the principal thing;therefore get wisdom.
Proverbs 4:7
Most will never seek wisdom. It forces them to see themselves for what they are, and that is too painful a journey to bring to fruition...as it never ends.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#488744 Feb 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You really deserve to be treated as you wish others treated.
Counter_Strike wrote:
I was asked a question. I honestly answered.
No doubt. The comment still stand.
Counter_Strike wrote:
Up until about 10-12 years ago same sex marriages were illegal not just in the United States, but in most countries world wide. Now all of the sudden same sex marriages are ok and nothing wrong with it.
Your church is becoming weaker.
Counter_Strike wrote:
you expect people who are truthful to themselves and to their Creator to agree with your acceptance of nastiness and the sodomites.
No I don't. I expect you to become increasingly outnumbered and irrelevant. I have no interest in your church's opinion on anything.
Counter_Strike wrote:
You have no right to speak on morally charged issues
Really? Let's see.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#488745 Feb 15, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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You have no interest in the answers given to you except that they are given so you can ridicule them.
That is absolutely false.
Your twisted hypomaic morals have lead you to believe any stance against sexual debauchery such as homosexuality must be wrong and all that believe it is must be Christians.
Complete BS. You haven't the slightest idea what my morals are.

And please, what is inherently debauched about homosexuality? You keep saying that, and I'm challenging you to rationalize it. I doubt very much you are up to it though.
I suppose then people like you would see concsnted incest as ok, right? Brothers and sisters, mothers and sons, fathers and daughters, first cousins and father and son or mother and daughter homosexuality. Do you and teh homosexual community see this as ok once they are consenting adults?
Thanks for your timely response.
CS.
If you are asking me if I can differentiate between homosexuality and incest, the answer is yes. Can you? Because based on what you've written, I don't think you do.
mobile7

Kingston, TN

#488746 Feb 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of atheism. Atheism makes no claim to knowledge. Atheism is simply skepticism of religious claims. Any atheist who claims to know everything is obviously as much a fool as a religious person saying the same thing.
I don't know how you are defining "concrete evidence", but you cannot prove there is no God in the same way you cannot prove there is no tooth fairy. You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on those making a claim, not the reverse. Religious people make claims about gods, and atheists are the skeptics asking for objective evidence for those claims. BTW, you yourself are an atheist, assuming you don't believe that every god ever conceived exists. The fact that there is no objective evidence for the existence of an all-powerful deity which supposedly wants to be believed in by humans in particular is very telling in itself. There is every reason for there to be a whole lot of objective evidence for such a deity, yet there is none at all.
Very intelligent post..If all the know it all people on here would I only think like this

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#488747 Feb 15, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. Topix is somewhat like a game of chess, one must think ahead ..
.. some Christian posters are offended by my sexual innuendos. I get that ..
dr Shrink wrote: "only try to shut your mouth about your bed filthy life, nobody need to look or hear at your look like man d......clitoris."
.. yes, Dr. Shrink's post is about sex ..
Counter_Strike wrote: "Interracial marriages is not supposed to be mentioned in the same sentence with teh likes of homosexual marriages. Racial rights have nothing to do with an abominable and fruitless act of debauchery."
.. yes, Counter-Strike's post is about sex ..
.. even tolerant Christians focus on the sexual aspects of homosexuality calling it sinful, an abomination, immoral, wrong ..
.. and, then, we have Catcher's post ..
Catcher1 wrote: "I commend this post from Counter_Strike to other posters here. I would be very interested in knowing what others think of his views. Will you condemn them? Will you support them? Will you remain silent, and thus give tacit approval?"
>>>snipped<< <<
While I understand what you're saying Ms. HL, the bottom line is that homosexuality is unnatural. While I agree in this era it is fast becoming normal in the eyes of several societies or countries, people like myself (male and female) will love and appreciate the opposite sex and want them when we are single. It is moral breakdowns and several other factors including rape, adultery, incest, mistreatment of individuals, low self-esteem and sexual abuse that has caused homosexuality to rise at such an alarming rate.

Many women (not all) start out by experimenting, then realize that a womans touch and sensuality may be more gentle and knowledgeable about a woman's body than a man's rough and oft uncivilized approach to sex and intimacy and also his lact of knowledge and ability to learn quickly about what females require sexually and intimately of her male partner. Likewise males >may< tend to become effeminate if they grow up among women and in a single parent home if the single parent is a female. The odds of this happening increases with the amount of males being raised by a single parent woman. This is for several reasons:

1. Because of a lack of male guidance. As admirable as the job many single parent women do, they are still not a better father figure than a worthy and responsible male partner who can be a husband and father. Try as single parents may, women can't make better dads than men (in most cases) and men cannot make better moms than women (almost in every case).

and 2). Women are far more liberal in thinking than men. Children pick up on these things very easily. A free spirited woman may not encourage but would also probably not object if her child (later on in life) were to experiment with same sex relationships. That kind of acceptance goes a long way over the many in society who may object to it. A parent's approval make the decision a whole lot easier.

In ending, while I am opposed to homosexuality and even more so to gay marriage, it doesn't mean that there are gay people that I don't know. I know a few, and we respect each other even though they are well aware of my stance. Because they are aware of it and respect by opinions or belief, they do not push their ideals on me nor do they display homosexuality before me or come into my home with it. Because of that respect, it leaves me not to impose my strong feelings against their lifestyle either. A conversation about it is usually done with both parties agreeing to a casula and respectful conversation or not at all. If a homosexual makes a sexual advance at me, then we have problems. In other words, if you and your friends make it a big deal, I will oblige in making it a problem. Leave it alone and obviously I would be less vocal.

Counter_Strike.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#488748 Feb 15, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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You're not asking questions to get answers because no answer will make a bit of difference to you. You're like a pre-recorded message set on repeat. You have no interest in the answers given to you except that they are given so you can ridicule them.
PS - What does Jesus have to say about lying?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488749 Feb 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Shrink is a Christian, but apparently ashamed of it.
Trifecta identified him as one of his own:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
And here he's wagging his sin finger and quoting scripture:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
It is always easier for a man to see his fails in another, and point it out. It is the means by which the stubborn and obstinate recognize, and eventually realize that they are condemning themselves.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#488750 Feb 15, 2013
Serah wrote:
I think you will find most Christians don't want sex lives of other people shoved in their faces; and that they
And I think that you'll find that most non-Christians don't want the religious lives of other people shoved in their faces. How is your complaint different from mine apart from the obvious?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488751 Feb 15, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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You're one of the few who isn't crazy :-)
LOL! Ya? I am too! I come here an beat "rocks", wait'n fer water ta flow from 'em all the time sis! That's the definition of insanity y'know!

Since: May 09

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#488752 Feb 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nothing.
Don't even try giving me the "if you talk about gay then you are gay speech"...
If so, then you're Christian.
I'm just curious as to why gays do what they do, that's all.
I would suggest that the same mechanisms are involved for both heterosexuals and homosexuals, as to what motivates their actions, and to ask "why they do what they do" is a flawed line of reasoning - and question, too.

Since: Oct 12

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#488753 Feb 15, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Contrite...HA!
Show me a person who is not contrite, and I will show you a despot and a murderer.
Now captain ya wouldn't be at that crossroad would ya with me.Contrite honestly could not show you one human being.I sure you could show me a despot of some many sorts.However the spirit can recover consciousness,flourish,restore ,reawaken.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#488754 Feb 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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No doubt. The comment still stand.
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Your church is becoming weaker.
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No I don't. I expect you to become increasingly outnumbered and irrelevant. I have no interest in your church's opinion on anything.
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Really? Let's see.
When will you also realize that your opinions on homosexuality are useless? What you think of the church and Christianity isn't relevant to me nor does that affect me in any way. In fact, many churches these days may embrace you. I do not hate you, but I don't stand up for foolishness and evil. While you're a human being and I would not shun you if you needed help, nor scorn you if you were injured nor would I leave you to freeze to death in the snow if you had no home nor even watch idly by seeing someone trying to harm you, it still does not mean that I MUST like everything about you and that I MUST accept everything you do or the lifestyle you choose to lead.

I simply disagree 100% with the gay lifestle both spiritually, morally, physically, idealogically and also based on my faith. So on all counts I disagree with it and do not support it. Other than that, I have no problems with anyone in this room to sit down around a big table and share hot chocolate and pizza. Yet if during lunch, I see strange behavior and hear perverted rhetoric, you will be swiftly shown the door
and asked to stay out while being given warm blanket, wool cap and proper shoes and directions to the shelter down the street. I hope you can dig that.

Shalom!

Counter_Strike: For it is written; shun the very appearance of evil.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488755 Feb 15, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I think there are a lot of good people in this world. There are, though, a few great and a few evil that can lead them down one path or the other.
All too often you don't realize that until you are caught in the crossfire. Does that make one evil? There is a profound question...our peers decide- often without the right.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#488756 Feb 15, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>No, I wasn't implying that, since it is illegal in most states. I didn't think I need to imply it should be illegal since it is.
Well, Rhode Island has this odd arrangement:
"Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces if they are part of a community, such as orthodox Jews, for whom such marriages are permitted" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_i...
No, as a matter of fact I pointed out that within your mythic bible, it's often condoned.
By the deity.
I didn't ask if it *is* legal.

I asked if *you think* it should be.

Do you?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488757 Feb 15, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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You emphasize "spouse" (not a wife in the Hebrew).
Why not emphasize "sister" ?
Incest was common among the royalty of 1000 BC.

In days of old,
when knights was bold,
be it truly known...
to "espouse" was to take fer ones own.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#488759 Feb 15, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Lol. You should check out the Christian forum. True, there are debates that go on here but they're mostly civilised
Not by my standards.
Juicylu wrote:
Btw, I'm a new Christian who has not yet developed the full ability of turning the other cheek so if you attack me I will rebuke you
You have it backwards.
Juicylu wrote:
Then you slander people, including myself, by saying I call you a liar 'without cause'.
You have never felt the need to defend your allegations.

Just so that we understand each other, this isn't about what you said to me, but about your cheap Christian self-forgiveness on demand. I needed somebody to step up and demonstrate it for me.

Do you think that you are more useful to me and my point if you beg me to forgive you, or if you continue refusing to do?
Juicylu wrote:
those who use classic cyber bullying internet "debating" tactics
You called me a liar. There is nothing that I could do that would qualify as bullying until you beg for my forgiveness.
Juicylu wrote:
You say you want proof of my statements?
I call bullshirt!
That's pretty much my point, Dimmette. You don't mind if I start calling you that, do you? Thanks in advance.
Juicylu wrote:
You assume I've spent too much time in 'the church' when I've been a believer (who has hardly ever set foot in a church)
The name Dimmette suits you well.
Juicylu wrote:
I am very forgiving

Of yourself, you mean, which is another of my points. Your shabby religion and lack of character make that easy for you to do.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488760 Feb 15, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. if both dogs give their consent, what's the problem ??..
They aren't humping his leg anymore ?

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