“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#488261 Feb 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Must trust in Jesus be a blind trust? Or is it backed up by objective evidence of some kind?
someplace in the middle.

objective trust is an oxymoron. where the objective, trust and faith not needed. Knowing Jesus Christ is trust and faith.

Blind faith? not exactly. there is a another component called spiritual faith.

although it not objective, but spiritual experiences yearly monthly or daily, strengthen the trust and faith in Jesus Christ.

it all start with the existence of God. because by definition an unseen God is a spiritual being. physical seen, spiritual unseen.

This is my path with my insecurity with buddhism. First, I had to acknowledge that
[God exist}. Then what God is true God? there are thousands of gods. Buddhism no have a god, so I quickly scratch that. So then I move on to investigate hindu gods and muslim gods and so forth.

Then I just take a second look at the religion of my youth, Christianity. Could it be Jesus Christ?

See, I scratch off most of the gods because they just not make any sense. Now I think there is a god in Islam. I think muslim people experience god, but that god is the long time enemy of Jesus Christ.

Because no matter what they want to say, Islam and Christianity at war.

That not coincidence. Its because Islam is dominated by a strong god, that only the God of Christianity Jesus Christ, is stronger than.

But that another subject. All I saying is that it must begin with
[God exist]. If you truly serious start there and Jesus will make himself known to you.

But if you not serious, then you just want to stay in you sinful lifestyles and just lashing out against Christians to feel better in you philosophy of secular humanism. Discussions is something to do I guess, but you must know what you want out of discussions. to make yourself feel better, or to make a change.

Only you can know that.

Since: Mar 09

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#488262 Feb 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.
<quoted text>
What doesn't baffle you?
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The part where you made unfounded claims about my character.
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I have not denied my own words. I denied your misinterpretation and faulty paraphrasing of my words.
How am I at fault here? You repeatedly called me a liar for months without any cause, and with no attempt to validate your claim until a few days ago. And then, you made a fool of yourself. You validated my insistence that you produce the words that you thought were lies.
When will you admit that you were in the wrong? Or have you already demanded your forgiveness from the ceiling fan and moved on in your spiritual walk? Are you right with Jesus now? Because you sure as hell aren't right with me.
But I am grateful to you for helping me make my point.
But you are a liar

Skombolis wrote:
"You also said you don't rule out the possibility of a creator god (but would require proof)"

IANS responded
"Nope. I'm not going to continue to correct you any more."

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

And you have continued a pattern of doing and saying whatever you want and taking no responsibility for it.

You think you didn't deny what you said or someone calling you out on YOUR actions gives you the right to ask if their mother is a prostitute?

Thank you for proving my point

And why is it you can chide others for not being able to handle the backlash of their posts but you cry and play the victim when it is you?

Since: Mar 09

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#488264 Feb 14, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> HEY!
:)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#488265 Feb 14, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
Interracial marriages is not supposed to be mentioned in the same sentence with teh likes of homosexual marriages. Racial rights have nothing to do with an abominable and fruitless act of debauchery.
You deserve to be described like this and treated like this.

And somehow, you can help but confuse sex and marriage.
Counter_Strike wrote:
You confuse love with perversion.
Nope. That's you again. You are calling love perversion, which is a perversion of normal human decency, compliments of the Christian church.
Counter_Strike wrote:
Under the guise of being a champion for the downtrodden and marginalized, you are a false prophet and could also possibly be a charlatan too.
Trying to pass as a loving, decent and knowledgeable person, you are a vector for a pernicious meme, and a theologaster.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488266 Feb 14, 2013
Art fodder hoot art and even,
Allowed beat thigh knave,
they kinked on gum,
the wildebeast on,
unearthed as it is uneven.

Grievous dismay are deadly bed
ant farm give out all dress presses,
a swipe fort grave toes do press grapes again dust.

Add lettuce snot undo tend nation
bud dead liver is farm weavils.

Four times as dead Klingons, dry powder and gory,
Floor if or and if or,
all men.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#488267 Feb 14, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Skom;
Hope you doin okay in this big ole world.Everything well with me here.Figured you was workin some long hours possible fillin a order as had not seen any posting you've made.Have a good one.
Hey LW

Yeah I have been swamped lately, both professionally and personally. It has been that way for a while now. This coming weekend should be the end of it with a break from overtime and scheduled weekends for the rest of the month. I'm looking forward to it

Hope things have been going well with you

(T) Peace

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#488268 Feb 14, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
If one states that we have to stand against it as an individual sin, what about divorce as an example?
Are we standing up the same way against all of the divorces that take place between Christians when the Bible clearly states that it goes against God?(**Clarification** I am not talking about abuse cases, and the reasons the Bible states that it is OK to divorce: a completely different topic imo) Scripture tells us that if you divorce and remarry, you are committing adultery.
Can divorce for marital unfaithfulness (fornications/adultery), unbelieving spouse... one can remarry in those instances. Death of a spouse also releases you from the marriage convenant of course... other than that, it says a wife can separate from her husband but remain unmarried... now if he commits adultery during that course of time then she has grounds for a divorce according to the scriptures.

Remarriage is okay if the above are met from a scriptural standpoint:

Apostle Paul: "Are you bound to a wife? seek not to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. But if you marry, you have not sinned... I Cor 7:27-28
Knowledge

Enfield, IL

#488269 Feb 14, 2013
Sora wrote:
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Bonsoir Madame *Closes eyes in pain* I apologize for appearing melancholic, and my heart grieves for what you went through as well. I feel your pain even now and you were a good daughter and your father loved you very much as my sister did for me. I live because I want to, I have someone who loves me unconditionally and there is nothing greater than that. I will never leave this world because I have too much to live for. I see my sister often, I told you that she is a part of me and Seraphine hung the last painting she did for her over my door as a sort of dreamcatcher. It is not this one, she has placed it here before. For myself, I feel as if I need no avatar my words are sufficient and you shall know me by those. Madame, you have not overstepped your boundaries and thank you for this. Msy God bless you as well, as for myself I have received the greatest blessing of all and I love Seraphine so much beyond words my feelings for her are. Medication has its place but the side affects are dreadful to deal with I believe in holistic cures and use it on a daily basis. We personally helped many clients dying of AIDS and Cancer financially in regards to treatment, we are not your stereotypical wealthy people Madame.
It has been a pleasure writing to you and your wife, Seraphine. I pray that God will bless you both for your kindness to strangers, who are so sick. My love for my father lives on, but I know he is in a better place and I would not want to bring him back. He died a painful death, and I know he is in such a better place. I too am blessed to have such a wonderful husband who I am not deserving of. God has truly blessed me as well. Happy Valentines Day to you and Sepaphrine.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#488270 Feb 14, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Nah. You just happen to worship a jealous, envious, greedy deity who pretends to be almighty, who's books lie to you about love and twist your morals so that you have much hatred against others who are not like you.
But Shintoists know that your deity is just one of many.
Knowledge - yours that your deity is the "one true god," Shintoists that it's just one of many, atheists that none exist - knowledge is based on perspective.
As I said before, He is no god. And I disagree. Knowledge is based on not just perspective but evidence and experience. You can believe or not believe if you want to because I for one won't be forcing you to accept the way I have come to know and understand the path to the Kingdom of the Most High Creator.

It is called free will. People can choose freely to go to hell or to be saved; the Father condemns no one. We find every reason to disobey, rebel and live a wicked and abhorent life and condemn ourselves. It is simple, there will be NO PLACE in the Kingdom for Evil and Rebellion. You may not like it, but even you can understand this.

Your argument is poor and miserable. When someone stands up for perversion and abominable acts and claim that they 'Love', they are deceived and are wicked people as were in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Counter_Strike: As it were in the days of Lot, so shall it be in the end.[Quo Vadis]

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#488271 Feb 14, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>someplace in the middle.
objective trust is an oxymoron. where the objective, trust and faith not needed.
I didn't say anything about "objective trust". I was asking whether faith could not be grounded on some objective evidence. Which is something any rational person would do every day. When you buy a car, would you do so based on faith alone? Or would you expect some objective evidence that, say, the seller was the legal owner of the car? Why would you expect less evidence for a life-encompassing ideology?
Knowing Jesus Christ is trust and faith.
Blind faith? not exactly. there is a another component called spiritual faith.
although it not objective, but spiritual experiences yearly monthly or daily, strengthen the trust and faith in Jesus Christ.
Just as the spiritual experiences of every other religion strengthen their trust in faith in entirely different gods. That's exactly why objective evidence is so important. Otherwise, religion becomes an arbitrary choice, strengthened by confirmation bias.
it all start with the existence of God. because by definition an unseen God is a spiritual being. physical seen, spiritual unseen.
This is my path with my insecurity with buddhism. First, I had to acknowledge that
[God exist}. Then what God is true God? there are thousands of gods. Buddhism no have a god, so I quickly scratch that.
On the contrary, many sects of Buddhism have many gods. But why are you making an assumption that any god exists in the first place? Rationally, it's a big mistake to start off with such an a priori assumption.
So then I move on to investigate hindu gods and muslim gods and so forth.
Then I just take a second look at the religion of my youth, Christianity. Could it be Jesus Christ?
See, I scratch off most of the gods because they just not make any sense.
Yet doesn't Christianity assert that their God is beyond human understanding?
Now I think there is a god in Islam. I think muslim people experience god, but that god is the long time enemy of Jesus Christ.
Huh? They revere Jesus as an important messenger of God.
Because no matter what they want to say, Islam and Christianity at war.
Christianity is at war with every other religion. Indeed, Christianity is also at war with itself.
That not coincidence. Its because Islam is dominated by a strong god, that only the God of Christianity Jesus Christ, is stronger than.
No, it's because each religion asserts that they are right and everyone else is a heretic. Again, that is why objective evidence is essential to a pursuit of truth.
But that another subject. All I saying is that it must begin with
[God exist]. If you truly serious start there and Jesus will make himself known to you.
Well, just about every ex-Christian proves that isn't true.
But if you not serious, then you just want to stay in you sinful lifestyles and just lashing out against Christians to feel better in you philosophy of secular humanism. Discussions is something to do I guess, but you must know what you want out of discussions. to make yourself feel better, or to make a change.
Only you can know that.
Why do you assume that non-Christians pursue sinful lifestyles? For that matter, why do you seem to assume that Christians therefore do not? The are quite a large number of examples on both sides that disprove that claim.

Since: Mar 09

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#488272 Feb 14, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
In all honesty I skip lots of pages here.
My apologies to those who I like to read and respond to, I just get tired of digging through the manure to find the ponies.
May you all find your heart's desire.
Yo G

I hear ya. I simply don't have the time anyway. I woke up 20 minutes ago and have to leave here in an 72 minutes for work. I honestly don't have any idea how people have gone 10-15 years working at places where they do 6 days, 12 hours a day. But whether people are working or simply have better things to do than scroll through posts they aren't going to get anything out of I am sure others feel the same as well. As much as it is good to break up the divisive topics no matter what they areas they normally at least bring a worthwhile debate to the table.

I can't read over and over again why someone doesn't like the faith or people condemning others. The pointless extremes just become very repetitive to me. I want to say "I get it, I got in a month ago". But that is the bizarre thing about Topix. If someone for instance where to come to my church and try to start telling me why all Christians are this or that I would dismiss them as someone whose opinion I could care less about and keep walking. Just as I am sure if someone came up to someone outside the faith and starting telling them they were going to hell I doubt they would sit around and chat with them for hours about it. We give way too much time to nonsense we never would in the real world.

JMO

(T) Peace

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#488273 Feb 14, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah. You just happen to worship a jealous, envious, greedy deity who pretends to be almighty, who's books lie to you about love and twist your morals so that you have much hatred against others who are not like you.
But Shintoists know that your deity is just one of many.
Knowledge - yours that your deity is the "one true god," Shintoists that it's just one of many, atheists that none exist - knowledge is based on perspective.
1.'Jealous god' is a dismal mistranslation. What or who does a Supreme being, Most High Creator who owns and created everything have to be jealous of? He is the King of Kings; your argument makes no sense.

2. Why does He need to be envious? He wants your car and your house? Does He need your job or have use for your toilet? What do you, mortal and limited knowledge being have what He would envy you for. Your argument is poor and pathetic.

3. Why would Yahweh need to be greedy of? He has everything. The entire universe exists because He made it so. Does He seek to con you for your money? Your argument is lower than abysmal.

4. Finally; why would He need to pretend He's the Almighty? Even Ha Satan can't do that. Your argument is a colossal failure.

You don't deserve a do over. perversion and debauchery is not love, even if you enjoy it.

Counter_Strike: As it is written, so let it be done.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#488274 Feb 14, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Skom...
[and the crew there.]
have to go now myself, but always with you in Spirit!
His Love and Peace be yours all ways.
Hey sister

I appreciate the wave hello

Hope all is well with you

Making a quick pass and then gotta go. Will catch up with you soon I hope

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#488275 Feb 14, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Howdy Skom :)
Howdy ma'am

(Skom tips hat)

:)

(T) Peace

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#488276 Feb 14, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 places those whom are committing adultery right along with homosexuals. So should people that divorce and remarry be told as much as possible, in any way possible, by any means possible, that their act of remarriage is an immoral abominable perverse sin in the eyes of God? Where are all the Christians screaming SIN at them?
A person may remarry for the reasons listed in my previous post, that is if they follow the scripture. Now Christians who had married other than the reasons specified in the other post is, according to the scripture, in an adulterous marriage. But just like homosexual Christian who can repent of the sin of homosexuality.. so can people who are in an adulterous marriage can repent once they get over being offended, shocked and denial. God will forgive both in response to genuine repentance. Good questions.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#488277 Feb 14, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Yo G
I hear ya. I simply don't have the time anyway. I woke up 20 minutes ago and have to leave here in an 72 minutes for work. I honestly don't have any idea how people have gone 10-15 years working at places where they do 6 days, 12 hours a day. But whether people are working or simply have better things to do than scroll through posts they aren't going to get anything out of I am sure others feel the same as well. As much as it is good to break up the divisive topics no matter what they areas they normally at least bring a worthwhile debate to the table.
I can't read over and over again why someone doesn't like the faith or people condemning others. The pointless extremes just become very repetitive to me. I want to say "I get it, I got in a month ago". But that is the bizarre thing about Topix. If someone for instance where to come to my church and try to start telling me why all Christians are this or that I would dismiss them as someone whose opinion I could care less about and keep walking. Just as I am sure if someone came up to someone outside the faith and starting telling them they were going to hell I doubt they would sit around and chat with them for hours about it. We give way too much time to nonsense we never would in the real world.
JMO
(T) Peace
Agreed.

Might get back into this thread in the spring, if the tide goes out. LOL

Will be putting in 15 hour days for the next two months so I don;t have time for much.
Knowledge

Enfield, IL

#488278 Feb 14, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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I will tell you this...If they say it is unidentifiable, then you KNOW they are lying. If this takes more than 5 days and is pos., then you will KNOW they have fabricated material and doc.s to support that conclusion.
This individuals records and identifiers are well above and beyond mine, and I am sure if I were hit by a semi my remains could be identified within 5 hours if they had any indication it could be me.
The most fascinating class I had, was Criminalistics . I know things change from day to day since I was in college, in the things they can do now. But, already, you can see it, things have been fabricated. The cabin looked like it was burned to the ground, I doubt they have anything left to work with. If I would have been the guy, I would have slipped a ring or something connected to the body. or should I say remains . The guy had no hair, he looked like he had really straight teeth, so either false, or had lots of dental work. Teeth are the hardest for a killer to get rid of easiest to identify, by dental records... My screen is 55 inches, I didn't see anything in the cabin that looked like a body, so it must have been charred . I sincerly doubt they will have enough to identify. Will be interesting to see the outcome.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#488279 Feb 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
hi happy! you're like my favorite lesbo:)
.. and, you're still my favorite married, Christian rogue ..
Knowledge

Enfield, IL

#488280 Feb 14, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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When this first came on the news channel my first throught was prearranged program and as the announcement came all the holes become clear in this case.I expect it all been closed and sealed and will soon disappear or be lost.With as big as la is for all we know could have been a unclaimed body from the morgue out there cause I keep wonder why just that one cabin was not cleared and all the rest were.What ever the story I figure no one will really know.They only going to feed wondering minds what they think they want to hear.
As my dear old grandmother use to say, " it will all come out in the wash". LOL

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#488281 Feb 14, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
You do not see much of that taking place here in the States, and divorce almost seems like it has become a norm. Should I sit and point out repeatedly to all of the couples that I personally know whom are remarried, that they are daily choosing to live a life of sin because they are remarried?
You know, this is another subject but I just heard that Virginia is set to strike down a 100 something year old law banning two heterosexuals from shacking up.
We believe that the Virginia law is archaic and insane but some people took marriages more seriously back then as far as it being a true commitment. The reason why there are so many divorces is because is because we let ourselves become comfortable with sin and rebellion... we are so free that we don't even know where the boundary lines end and start anymore. We've crossed over too much boundaries that the street directions are pointing all over the place... "broad is the way that lead to destruction..." not just to one's soul but to one's marriage and other things also.

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