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You are not understanding what I am saying/asking. At this point I don't think you want to. My point was - what if God did create them just as they are. What then.
I believe it is you who are not understanding, God did create them as they are, a man and a woman, but they picked up that damnable spirit sometime after they were born.

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<quoted text>I have already stated my beliefs on this subject, under the constitution they have the right to marry whom they will of the opposite sex, not the same sex.
You might want to read the US Constitution...

The US Constitution does not define marriage. That has been left up to the states. When same-sex marriages came to the forefront many states...especially conservative states scurried to amend their state constitutions to define marriage between man and woman.

Less than 50 years ago the 14th Amendment was used in a Virginia law suit to over-rule the discrimination of blacks not being able to legally marry someone outside their race. This same amendment is being used by some as a basis to over throw the ban on same sex marriages.

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I am not asking simply as it pertains to marriage. If you are not sinning as far as your marriage goes then that is good but I am asking about your sins in general.
Are the sins you commit just as bad in the eyes of God as the sin of homosexuality?
Respectfully I think you know I am not asking you if God sees straight marriage the same as gay marriage. I just want to know if you feel the sin of homosexuality is worse than the sins you probably would admit to committing every day or at least still commit?
Just saw this... yes sir. If I sin it is gross to God. If I continue in that unrepentant sin, that is. However, if I repent then the slate is wiped clean through the Blood of
Christ. Those who are in gay relationships are obviously continuing in unrepentant sin... if they repent however and come to Christ then that slate would be wiped clean also through Christ's Blood... but other than that it is sinful behavior and helping a person to commit sin is pretty much aiding and abetting.

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Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly nor standeth in the way of sinners nor sitteth in seat of the scornful.But his delight is in the law of the Lord and in His law doeth he meditate day and night.Psalms 1:1&2

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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For starters, it's correct. Christian doctrine requires only that you repent and ask for forgiveness, not that you make restitution or apologize to your victim.
Second, how is that a blanket statement? Are you turning it into a statement about Christians again? This is why we call you Dim. It was a comment about an idea - a doctrine - not about people.
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See, Juicy? It's Dim doing the whining about Christians and their hearts. I've only referred to a doctrine that permits cheap self-forgiveness.
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You are unbelievably dense. The broad brush is in your head. Where did I say that all Christians feel that way? I didn't. You said I did, and then impugned my character for it.
Sorry, Dim, but it's been explained to you repeatedly. Are you stupid or malicious? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by calling you Dim.
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And that is why you are known as Dim.
You are a liar and not very bright. You say Christians don't need to feel about about who they hurt or don't need to make amends because they can ask the sky for forgiveness and you don't see where that is a broad-brush?

Plus your lies are now contradicting themselves. NOW you are trying to pretend you were just explaining doctrine. Yet you said earlier than when you were a Christian you never felt receiving forgiveness meant you didn't have to feel bad or make amends.

You have no proof anybody does this and you never did this yourself. But you wanted to give the impression Christians don't care about hurting others so long as they can be forgiven. And now that it exposed your bigotry you are trying to backpedal and use technicalities

The statement was meant as a slam. You are a liar and a bigot and people can see it

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...."How can one justify sin?"....
How can one define it ?

I have yet to see a list that all Christians agree on. Even the Ten Commandments are interpreted differently and Jesus' commandmetns to "Love" are punched full of loopholes.

It is sad that so many Christians have nothing to do in their lives but bitch about who other people are fucking.

Worry about who is in your own bed. Others can choose to "go to Hell" if they want. It is none of your business.

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Hey Skombo.. everyone else...gotsta go. C ya'll l8ter Lordwilling... sending a Rev study:
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LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text>....God did create them as they are...
Genesis is a pack of lies ?

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<quoted text>No.. I get your point. I don't think you are getting my point. I mean, once we agree that it is sin that should be the end of discussion concerning the Word. Not sure why you are saying that you are trying to keep it calm... I didn't see it as anything else. Smile.
Well I don't know if my posts were coming off as something less than calm. I am glad they are not as I am not intending them to be anything but calm

I agree it is the end of the discussion as far as Christians

I simply don't think it is any of our business in regards to others and I think the Bible says that too

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I guess we would have to consider the implications at that time
But is there any reason you have to think that would be the case?
You know I like you NS so this isn't asked in a challenging way but did you ever decide to be "straight"? Did you weigh the pros and cons, look at what your friends were doing, decide what would be the best societal move for you and then decided you would be straight or did one day you simply realize you were attracted to the opposite sex?
And if the latter, why would you think it is different for those attracted to the same sex?
I am simply curious
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I am not taking your post as a challenge. To be honest I am merely frustrated by the fact that while some choose to use the Bible to dictate how another should live, they will not look deep into issues that cause them to demean others. In my mind this is not simply about someone’s sexuality, but how someone chooses to use what they personally believe against others.

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Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Just saw this... yes sir. If I sin it is gross to God. If I continue in that unrepentant sin, that is. However, if I repent then the slate is wiped clean through the Blood of
Christ. Those who are in gay relationships are obviously continuing in unrepentant sin... if they repent however and come to Christ then that slate would be wiped clean also through Christ's Blood... but other than that it is sinful behavior and helping a person to commit sin is pretty much aiding and abetting.
I don't see not forcing my beliefs on others as helping them

A vote to me is saying, do you want to force your beliefs on others and I don't think I have that right

But as far as sinning, the bible says we are no longer controlled by our sinful natures, our new creations in Christ, have been given a way out of every temptation, and should not sin any longer once we believe.

So my question is, how can we not only expect people who haven't had the benefit of all the above to stop sinning when we don't, but how do we take it one step further and restrict their rights for sinning when they aren't even Christians yet we do nothing to restrict the rights of Christians who continue to commit sins that aren't illegal?

How is that not the most hypocritical type of judging there is?

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dr Shrink wrote:
for past two months,I sleep, wake up,fart in them,and sometimes dry stains create protective umbrella from any cold weather flowing between two balls,
Thank you for sharing again.

It's always traumatic to take even a brief trip through your mind. I usually feel like I need a shower afterwards, or at least to wash my hair. You live in there all day. I'll bet that's quite a ride.

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What is sin.
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:For all sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3&4

In what condition are all men.

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.Romans 3:23

By what are all men proved guilty.

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law:that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become guilty before God.Romans 3:19
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Genesis is a pack of lies ?
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You're most welcome Steve.
Shalom.
Andrew (CS).
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Skombolis wrote:
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I am not sure where you thought I was saying you are in duress
But if you feel you are Biblically justified in forcing unbelievers to live by our beliefs then when you get a chance can you please show me the verses that you base that on
I know for Christians homosexuality is a sin. The Bible also says dust off my sandals, don't judge hypocritically, and leave the punishments to God. So where does it say you are allowed to punish those outside the faith by restricting their rights because they don't adhere to the rules set by Christianity? If God supports you on this let me see where
Good afternoon Skom, hope all is well with you, I'd just like to weigh in here a little, Qu like myself are not trying to enforce our beliefs and way of life on anyone, as Christians we have to take on God's Word in every aspect to ourselves and we cannot knowingly or deliberately condone anything of the sin nature that goes against the statues of the God that we serve, for myself my personal desire is that all men and women would come unto the light of Christ, but of course I know that is not going to happen but I pray for people none the less.

You see for those of us who name the name of Christ, we have to put God first in every aspect of our lives and therefore apply his Word to us in all things pertaining, and anything that his Word condemns we cannot condone in any venue either in or outside his Holy Word, granted that this is a secular and not a religious society true..........but I still cannot in good conscience condone same sex marriage legalization and feel undefiled before the living God of our salvation, this is not an attempt to chose sides here but just MHO from honest conviction.

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I am not taking your post as a challenge. To be honest I am merely frustrated by the fact that while some choose to use the Bible to dictate how another should live, they will not look deep into issues that cause them to demean others. In my mind this is not simply about someone’s sexuality, but how someone chooses to use what they personally believe against others.
I understand

I actually saw a reply to your post that made me think I probably didn't understand why you made yours.

I thought you were suggesting if someone wanted to they could just stop being gay so its their fault for being gay

I think I understand what you were getting at now

Thanks for the reply

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You might want to read the US Constitution...
The US Constitution does not define marriage. That has been left up to the states. When same-sex marriages came to the forefront many states...especially conservative states scurried to amend their state constitutions to define marriage between man and woman.
Less than 50 years ago the 14th Amendment was used in a Virginia law suit to over-rule the discrimination of blacks not being able to legally marry someone outside their race. This same amendment is being used by some as a basis to over throw the ban on same sex marriages.
Nevertheless the Word of God defines it, and for more of that see my post to Skombolis.

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I am not taking your post as a challenge. To be honest I am merely frustrated by the fact that while some choose to use the Bible to dictate how another should live, they will not look deep into issues that cause them to demean others. In my mind this is not simply about someone’s sexuality, but how someone chooses to use what they personally believe against others.
Yes! Not how someone believes...it is what they do with that belief...

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