Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#487009 Feb 11, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
What evidence is there that an omnipotent and omniscient god exists and hates childhood disease? There is plenty to the contrary. Faith lets you pick whatever you'd like to believe and call it truth.
Juicylu wrote:
That's not true.


That's not much of a rebutttal. To either claim.
Juicylu wrote:
What evidence do you have that God doesn't exist?


Same as the last time somebody asked. Your god is logically impossible. There may yet be a god or gods, but it isn't yours. Here is the argument:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

There are no perfect gods with perfect love, perfect knowledge and perfect power watching over us. That pretty much rules your god out right there.

So does the creation myth, in the light of modern science. A real god would have gotten the actual history of the universe and of life correct.

What else? Oh yeah - nothing exists outside of time. Nothing thinks outside of time. And nothing acts outside of time. All of those verbs require time. They all have before and after states - a was and an is.

There's more, but that's enough for you to ignore for now.
Juicylu wrote:
There isn't any evidence either way.
As you can see, the opposite is true. You've offered nothing, and I have a reasoned argument for which I'm pretty certain your whole rebuttal will be "Nuh-uh".
Juicylu wrote:
Why be angry with those who have faith?
I don't know. Why? Did you think I was?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#487010 Feb 11, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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P_ain in the A_ss.
All I could think of was...PISS ANT!

Maybe because at one point in life...it was a phrase I used...my favorite line was...

Piss off you piss ant!

I was REAL tough back then!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#487011 Feb 11, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
He's like the greased up deaf guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =F_-64DIXTlQXX
LOL. Good one.

I knew what it was before I clicked.
Mahoney is a F U CK

Aliso Viejo, CA

#487012 Feb 11, 2013
The question, "Why should Jesus Love Me" can be answere by all the children who have been sexually abused by Catholic priest.

The answer, all victims of priest sexual abuse have holy semen inserted in their mouths, anal cavaties.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#487013 Feb 11, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Yes, lets ignore the heterosexuals and the younger girls raped and molested, esp. if they are fellow Christians esp. if they are preists and preachers.
Wish you all would take good long look at your "brothers and sisters in Christ" before passing judgement on everyone else.
Replace the word Homosexual in your posts with Jew and most of you sound just like NAZIs.
Sir, You are absolutely lying. No one, hetro, homo, pedo,female , or male or a Christian (? doubt they ever were if they did this)! will not be IGNORED if they were to Rape, Molest
hurt ANYONE, man , woman or child!

You sir, said in the Bible , God told Adam to have sex with the animales, and also a possibility that Jesus could have been GAY. You are a sick old man.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#487014 Feb 11, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Kumapit hunnygrace!
Namin ay may kaugnayan sa pamamagitan ng dugo, ako plesed upang matugunan sa iyo!
You will get to know Annie J as one of the warmest hearts to any who suffer.
Diyos pagpalain
Aaaaw

Don't know what that other stuff meant but thank you.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#487015 Feb 11, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>we do have common grounds on loving our pets.
.. OH !! MY !! nearly forgot to tell you ..

GOOD NEWS

.. WALDORF has found a permanent home. His new mommy snarfed the little guy up about two hours ago ..

.. PRAISE JESUS or, whoever, whatever, wherever, whenever !!..

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#487016 Feb 11, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. within the prison population, situational homosexuality is normal. In the FLDS religion, polygamy is normal. In the gay culture, being gay is normal ..
.. do you like eating cow? Our culture considers that fairly normal. Yet there are vegetarians that say it is not normal, that it's immoral ..
.. but, I digress. For the heterosexual, heterosexuality is completely normal. For the homosexual, homosexuality is completely normal ..
.. you are astute and recognize it's the human in you that thinks gays are abnormal but truly, there is no 'normal,' only cultural constricts ..
P.S. Always remember: LESBO stands for: Little Elfs Singing Big Operas
P.S.S. Would you like another dozen long-stemmed red roses?
WHAT??? You sent her a dozen long stemmed red roses too???

sigh...that's okay...I prefer pink ones anyway...

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#487017 Feb 11, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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It is sad to hear this...no one deserves to be made feel inferior.
I don't think that most of us want to be fighters...sometimes however we have to learn to be to survive.
IMO Verbal abuse is just as harmful...sometimes more so that physical abuse. Wounds heal but words tear apart your heart and often destroy that person that you are. The danger comes when you have heard them so often that you begin to believe them...when someones words have made you feel unworthy. It sometimes takes a long time to heal from what the ugly and vile words will do to you.
HG...I can't tell you what to do...only you can make that choice. It is hard to face the world on your own...but would that be any harder than what you face now.
I do truly wish you luck...no matter what choices you make.
Verbal abuse is a surety of what 'power in words' is all about.

For some reason, the negative seem to hold more weight because as you said, one begins to believe them...

We both know that 'positive' means overcoming the weight of such vile words.

Take Care Sister Friend. You are always very close to my thoughts there... OFTEN!

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#487018 Feb 11, 2013
Mahoney is a F U CK wrote:
The question, "Why should Jesus Love Me" can be answere by all the children who have been sexually abused by Catholic priest.
The answer, all victims of priest sexual abuse have holy semen inserted in their mouths, anal cavaties.
.. was that really necessary ??..

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#487019 Feb 11, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Aaaaw
Don't know what that other stuff meant but thank you.
It meant...
'Hold on! We share the same blood. I am pleased to meet you,
God Bless.'

>>>HUGS<<< Annie J!

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#487020 Feb 11, 2013
Serah wrote:
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This is a forum about JESUS and love;
I see far more hate and bigotry than love on this thread.

Nor do you have any propietary interest in the thread. It's open to all.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#487021 Feb 11, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
Personally, I think that Frank Tureg did a pretty good job of writing down his thoughts on the whole matter and I'm sure you may disagree with his explanations that the true bigots are the homosexual supporters and homosexuals themselves.
I agree with his view...
Yes, I disagree.

You think gays and their supporters are the bigots? Amazing.

Dim thinks that I shouldn't criticize your church because that makes me a bigot, but I sincerely dislike what it teaches people, and I just want it to stop.
Qu_innocence wrote:
As far as your questions... "Where is the truth in Faith?" The question reminds me somewhat to Pilates question to Jesus... "What is truth?" Pilate, as you may already know, was some sort of Roman Prefect or governer I think (going on old mem). That being the case, Pilate was well familiar with politics. As you know Rome ruled the Jews and he was in charge of that Province. The Jewish leaders were also familiar with politics and knew how to play the chess board. Anyways, Pilate couldn't find nothing wrong with Jesus but the Jews threatened him, "You are no friend of Ceasars"... Pilate was afraid that it would get back to Caesar that "you are no friend of Caesars!" That wasn't true but in a highly-politicized environment political correctness is the truth isn't though "truly" isn't the truth. So being enveloped in all this political turmoil... the lies, the political firestorms, the arm-twisting, the framing of innocents, the strict and loose interpretations of the law, the corruption... after a while, it's hard to distinguish the lie from the truth. Another example:
Bill Clinton (pointing a crooked finger): "I... DID NOT.. HAVE... SEXUAL RELATIONS with THAT woman..."
20/20 almost everyone now knows that he did but according to some law book with legal definitions that he read... technically he did not have "sexual relations" with that woman. It depends what IS is.
So anyways, I say all that just to say that political truth and "true" truth aren't necessarily the same. I don't have faith in political correctness.
OK. But where is the truth in faith?
Qu_innocence wrote:
I believe and have Faith in Jesus' Words and that for me and millions of others, that is the absolute truth.
OK. You believe that what you believe by faith is truth. Nevertheless, where is the truth in faith? Somebody else believes the opposite by faith. Which one is true?
Qu_innocence wrote:
Jesus, without all the political mumbo jumbo, is where truth is. He is the standard and the plumbline to measure with... Now I understand that you don't believe but I'm just trying to answer somewhat comprehensively. The following scriptures are absolute truth for me so that is why I trust them resulting in Faith.
Jesus: "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth."
Jesus: "The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life."
Jesus: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Psalmist: "All your words are true..."
OK. But these are statements of faith.

Where is the truth in them? There is no truth in faith unless you guess right, and even then, you can't know that you have.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#487022 Feb 11, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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What part of purchase a map don't you understand Mr. Catcher? How about starting with going South of North Carolina Mr. Catcher, bum a ride and ask a few hobos along the way?
I'll give you a dollar to purchase the map, you can keep the change.
(Friscans are so weird).
Can someone lend this guy an extra dolloar so he can purchase himself a bag of Lays potato chip and a Dr. Pepper while he's on his way? That should fix him.
CS.
Have you been to Jefferson, South Carolina?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#487023 Feb 11, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Skom has already done something similar, but it didn't help. I explained myself, then he paraphrases that explanation incorrectly, continues to make unsupported claims, casts more aspersions, and we're back to where we started. There's not much reason to expect that to improve.
He's the gift that keeps on giving.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I've told him how to handle the matter: Get my exact words and the link to them, and let's look at those words together. He disregards that, paraphrases again, and yadda yadda.
<quoted text>
What turned me against him was his unwillingness to cooperate - more faulty and unsupported paraphrasing - combined with personal slurs. I can't see how to interpret that more charitably than I have - he's a dimwit.
The only remaining issue is whether he should be told. I can't see why not. Why shelter him from corrective social pressure? It's instructive unless he refuses to benefit from it - that is, refuses to consider his choices.
He should be told, often.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#487024 Feb 11, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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WHAT??? You sent her a dozen long stemmed red roses too???
sigh...that's okay...I prefer pink ones anyway...
.. opppssss ..

.. you weren't suppose to read that ..

.. did I tell you about a recent conversation I had with LAWEST100 ??..

LAWEST100: In a moment of temptation, ask yourself if ten minutes of pleasure is worth a lifetime of guilt and shame.

HL: Ten minutes? Mrs. Lawest100 tells me it never lasts that long.
Knowledge

United States

#487025 Feb 11, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Sure:
Paul admits to enjoying the death of the original Apostles:
"And when the blood of your martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.' Acts 22:20
Paul declares to have the only "True Gospel" and puts himself above an angel of God:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" Gal. 1:8
Paul declares him self an Apostle:
"Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord? 2 Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you! For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord." 1 Corinthians 9
Jesus was lower than angels (Hebrews 2:9) and Paul is greater than angels (Galatians 1:8) then is Paul makes himself greater than Jesus.
Just a few off the top of my head
I have to thank you so much for your scriptures on this... If you remember, I told you that I got hurt very bad, and I died, but God, did not decide to keep me.LOL I say that with laughter, and for the love I do have for him. Before my accident/sickness I was on a grace study. There were many things I didn't understand, and started questioning. After my recovery, I lost some of my memory of a few things. It has all pretty much came back to me, but this.... You jogged my memory of my long lost grace study. It was Paul yes, Paul who helped me get through a very hard time in my life. As I read and studied the new testament, I remember how I thought how horrible Paul was, his self rightous attitude. His condoning murders, his investigations on other Christians, the list goes on and on. It was his last part of his life, that he becomes sorrowful and he had hated what he had become in his years. It was his realizing it was all about Jesus Christs love and his teachings . He spoke of many things he had not been proud of, in other words he missed the boat in the beginning, but he found it at the end, before it was too late. You are right about him, but you didn't read in between you missed it. I don't think I would have gotten it, it I hadn't of been going through the things that I was. The part where you said He was higher than angels, the Bible does say that we saints of God will judge the angels. When you thought he was putting Jesus lower than the angels, it was by Jesus's choice to suffer and died without calling for help from God, or the angels of heaven, that is what he meant. Others might argue with me about it, but I don't need their approval on what God had given me. I do find it ironic, that it was all taken out of my mind, and you G_O_D are the reason my grace study came back to me... a hater of Paul. I find that sometimes God has a sense of humor, in many things. You see, I took compassion on Paul in his later years for being so judgmental, took part in murder, and enjoyed watching them. A man, who had his own fellow Christians watched and investigated, making sure he thought the standards should be, yet at the end it was all about the love and grace of Jesus. Does that story sound a little to familiar? I had to learn something too, and if it were not for you and BT coming to my aid, and making me realize how awful and judgmental I too was......:) I guess what it all boils down too is in the end what kind of person you have become....You might not agree with all of this and others might not either even in the church, but that"s okay, we all can agree to disagree. I do think our paths were suppose to meet....:) Thanks again!
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#487026 Feb 11, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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LOL. Good one.
I knew what it was before I clicked.
In spite of many bible examples of long suffering such as Sara waiting to be a hundred and many many others ,its easy to conclude you are a quitter and you have fainted. You wanted a genie. You are not as diligent as you think. What is our feeling of time compared to eternity? What would you know about the bigger picture and why things are as they are? Your failure may not make you an unsavory person but your disbelief and teaching others to disbelieve will ultimatley make you not enjoy eternity.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#487027 Feb 11, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. opppssss ..
.. you weren't suppose to read that ..
.. did I tell you about a recent conversation I had with LAWEST100 ??..
LAWEST100: In a moment of temptation, ask yourself if ten minutes of pleasure is worth a lifetime of guilt and shame.
HL: Ten minutes? Mrs. Lawest100 tells me it never lasts that long.
Mrs. Lawest???.......perhaps YOU can answer that question better than most.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#487028 Feb 11, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. opppssss ..
.. you weren't suppose to read that ..
.. did I tell you about a recent conversation I had with LAWEST100 ??..
LAWEST100: In a moment of temptation, ask yourself if ten minutes of pleasure is worth a lifetime of guilt and shame.
HL: Ten minutes? Mrs. Lawest100 tells me it never lasts that long.
Hey congrats on finding Waldorf a home.

Yesterday my beagle went to behavior school...only thing he learned...how to lick peanut butter off a stick...sigh...

He got sent to detention!

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