Why Should Jesus Love Me?
mike

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#486358 Feb 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Do you not know of the judgement of the Churches? Ah well, you are not the only one disputing and debating things you know nothing of....
So, as you like Scriptures so much, I'll share a few to enlighten you a touch.
Actually, I went to my old notes instead of Google, and after I have listed these for you, I will also write from an insert I have popped in there because it was special at the time. Once again, it is special :)
Book of Revelation
2:1 The Loveless Church
2:8 The Persecuted Church
2:12 The Compromising Church
2:18 The Corrupt Church
2:29 JESUS says "HE who has an ear let him hear what the Spirit says to the Churches"
3:1 The Dead Church
3:7 The Faithful Church
3:14 The Lukewarm Church
..........
***24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.***
My book is called The Morning Star :)
Thanks Serah
I think you've gotten ahead of yourself, I'm not one who waits around for a GOD to do.

You as well as others should try it sometimes.
mike

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#486359 Feb 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you suggesting that Epi's Prayers are not real or from the heart? Ahh, how does one teach about a heart in Prayer? How does one explain the link between GOD and those in Prayer if one doesn't not have that sense or emotion? It can be done, of that there is no doubt, because it is a tangible asset of the greatest magnitude and stronger than the other senses as such. If one cannot see, will they ever know the color blue regardless of how many times it is described? How does one explain the many ranges of blue so that one who has never seen blue will picture it in their minds eye?
But that explanation is not necessary with GOD ~ as HE is in control of the ranges :)
Most of Epi's posted prayers are not from epi, those prayers belong to someone else,..try asking Epi.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#486360 Feb 10, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps. But if we're going to look at the scriptures naturalistically, why live by them?
<quoted text>
That's fine. But if some of the bible is to be regarded that way, why not all of it? What parts of it if any should be taken at face value, and how can you know?
To a skeptic, this is exactly the kind of thing that we would expect human beings speaking for a god to write, and the opposite of what I would expect from a god trying to establish its credentials and authority for millennia to come.
I agree.
I do not take the Bible or Hebrew scriptures literally or as "The Word of God".

Have you read, watched or listened to Joseph Campbell's "The Power of Myth'?

If not, I think you would get a lot out of it. I think you will be saying, like I did, "WoW! This guy thinks like me."

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#486361 Feb 10, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think there should be no limits displaying one's sexuality or sexual preferences? No boundaries as such.
People probably shouldn't reveal their sexual preferences by indulging in them in the streets. Where would you draw the line?

Do you think that there should be no limits on public displays of faith or religious preference? No boundaries as such. Should people be indulging in worship on the streets? Where would you draw the line, if any?

Do you think that that is an unfair comparison?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#486362 Feb 10, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
Here is another good example of what hatred breeds.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T64GV6Q...
"Your use of the word patriarchy shows your bigotry. And I'm perfectly fine with gay kids being bullied to death."
It is sad how much hatred is spewed in Jesus' name.

"Jesus wept"

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#486363 Feb 10, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes...after years of posting on this thread I don't even have to anticipate the response...I know what they will be.
I picked your post to give my thoughts on the subject...simply because while we might not agree I can anticipate the manner in which you will respond.
My problem is not with someone believing that homosexuality is wrong...a sin. If one says "Based on my faith I believe to be homosexuality to be a sin and thus wrong." then I would say that they have the right to believe as they choose.
It is that response that follows afterwards that promotes the hatred and division. The line "love the sinner...hate the sin" is a hollow and shallow cover-up. How does one expect another to feel that love when one has called them a...
pervert
deviant
scum of the earth
human garbage
pedophile
degradation to marriage
sex with animals
etc
etc
etc
Do you really expect anyone to see that as anything else but hatred?
An example...
At one time I posted on the Gay/Lesbian forum. There was a professed Christian that was as vile as I had ever seen.
I asked him once...what he would do if his child came home and told him he was gay.
His response...
I would throw him out on the pile with the rest of the trash.
One can say that man was not a "true" Christian...yet I have read similar comments here on this thread among the "true" Christians.
As I said above...that "love the sinner...hate the sin" rings hollow...a cover up for hatred.
I shared the story last week of my cousin who was gay.....I am not covering up hatred because I really LOVED my cousin (he was like my Brother)....but as a Christian I know God has words against the gay lifestyle. I trust Gods word...I still LOVE my cousin.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#486364 Feb 10, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Most of Epi's posted prayers are not from epi, those prayers belong to someone else,..try asking Epi.
Yep.
She shares from her daily readings.
I seem to recall she used to put citations in her post to indicate where they came from. I have become so used to them I don;t know if she still does.

One was a publication called "Daily Bread".. I think.

Epi is not passing them of as her own words.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#486365 Feb 10, 2013
Good Morning Folks
Part 3/Last

Jesus: "For many are invited, but few are chosen."

Apostle Paul: "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."

Welp, have to head out earlier. But I will tell you... with the Lord's help I will not be "turned out" to believe that fornications is okay. It is sin... no matter the excuse, no matter the demonic doctrine of evolution by the backsliding backslider, Darwin... Jesus is Lord... thank God for the Chick-fillets and the Hobby Lobby's of the world who stand up against the sin of pride... that is rebellion towards our God and His Christ.

__________

The below message is beautifully stated... for Senecus and Drew especially... Drew, thanks for sharing Dr. Carson. He seems to have gotten more fiesty over the years. I've read his book back in the 90's. A testimony to His Faith... He kept it and did not Shrink back:

Who are the Real Gay Bigots and Bullies?

"George Orwell said,“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” When you tell the truth about homosexuality today, you can be sure that the central tools of deceit—name-calling and bullying—will be unleashed."

http://www.theoakinitiative.org/turek-who-are...

Praise The Lord

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#486366 Feb 10, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I shared the story last week of my cousin who was gay.....I am not covering up hatred because I really LOVED my cousin (he was like my Brother)....but as a Christian I know God has words against the gay lifestyle. I trust Gods word...I still LOVE my cousin.
I am not being beligerant but wonder if you can give your opinion of "WHY" God finds male homosexuality an abomination and what you think "abomination" means.

Thanks.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

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#486367 Feb 10, 2013
:)

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#486368 Feb 10, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
I'll ask both of you...
If you won the lottery for 10 million dollars...when the check arrived and you saw that the check # was 666...they refused to replace it with a different number...would you destroy the check...or would you cash it?
I know that this number holds significance in your faith (I heard about that number often as a child) but in reality it is just the number that comes after 665 and before 667.
We teach our children to count as far as they can...we turn it in to a game...often counting to 1000 and beyond. Would you teach them to skip 666?
Its just a number to me.....the one between 665 and 667....But some others put more emphasis on it....They think it is EVIL...I feel they are intitled to their belief and opinion
Adam

Germany

#486369 Feb 10, 2013
Everything gay is evil.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#486370 Feb 10, 2013
Senecus wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhh, Epi....experience writing?("speaking" from experience?)
:)
Good morning to you:)
I do remember those "Black Beauties"...Hey...I am talking about 1970 something....LOL

I'm sure you have heard the saying "The sixties were good to me"

:-)
mike

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#486371 Feb 10, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Hello Doc

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#486372 Feb 10, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I shared the story last week of my cousin who was gay.....I am not covering up hatred because I really LOVED my cousin (he was like my Brother)....but as a Christian I know God has words against the gay lifestyle. I trust Gods word...I still LOVE my cousin.
I know Epi...there are many like you out there. The problem is...that the rest of them are yelling louder. They are allowed to get by with it.

Unless I missed it...not one Christian voiced their opinion when CS was on a roll...does that mean no one cared...they agreed...or did they just not want to rock the boat?

Last week on WINLAC a poster decided to post crude jokes about Christians. Guess who took the risk of rocking the boat...again...it wasn't a Christian.

I know at times it seems as if we are painting that broad stroke and I apologize for that. I am fully aware that people such as yourself...LeLe and others would never say those things.

I don't agree with IANS view points...at least not all of them...but where does it stop? Where do we draw the line with the hatred? Do we just accept it because of someone's personal beliefs?

Is it okay for someone to say they are okay with gay kids being bullied to death? Personal belief or not...it isn't okay.

Okay...that is enough...I will end up using all my 4000 characters!
mike

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#486373 Feb 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.
She shares from her daily readings.
I seem to recall she used to put citations in her post to indicate where they came from. I have become so used to them I don;t know if she still does.
One was a publication called "Daily Bread".. I think.
Epi is not passing them of as her own words.
Hello G_O_D

Some seem to think they're from Epi's heart.

If someone decided to post the bible from start to finish daily, what would be the point?....simply because you can?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#486374 Feb 10, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello G_O_D
Some seem to think they're from Epi's heart.
If someone decided to post the bible from start to finish daily, what would be the point?....simply because you can?
Yep...sounds like a good enough reason to me.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#486377 Feb 10, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello G_O_D
Some seem to think they're from Epi's heart.
If someone decided to post the bible from start to finish daily, what would be the point?....simply because you can?
If I send someone roses does that imply that they couldnot obtain them on thir own or that I grew themmyself ?

Sometimes you make good points, Mike. Sometimes you read too much into things.

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" - Freud

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#486378 Feb 10, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>So THAT explains why you LIE on the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible all the time,huh??!
Jesus is gay ?

ROFLMAO

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#486380 Feb 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not being beligerant but wonder if you can give your opinion of "WHY" God finds male homosexuality an abomination and what you think "abomination" means.
Thanks.
Hey Duane....

When it comes to "Why does God feel this way or that way?" I am NOT proud enough to speak for God...He has his reasons...That is when people say "If God feels that way then I want nothing to do with him"...That is their choice...

IMO Abomination means something that God hates....He hates other things beside Homosexuality....

These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Prayer is even added to the list of “abominations,” if it comes from one who turns his ear from hearing the law in Proverbs 28:9.

He who turns away his ear from listening to the law,
Even his prayer is an abomination. NASB

I think God has hated things we all do (or have done in our past)

Have a good day

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