Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#485894 Feb 9, 2013
Serah wrote:
Do you want all Christian Church activity to butt out of the world?
My first priority is to get the church out of the lives of unbelievers in America.
Serah wrote:
Do you want Missionaries to stop what they are doing and what they will be doing in the future?
I don't like to see Christians proselytizing in foreign lands, but it's not an issue I concern myself with.
Serah wrote:
Do you want the Congregations to stop giving donations that help the world?
Feel free to give. Just don't impose yourselves on anybody.
Serah wrote:
Do you want the Congregations to stop caring for each other in times of need?
No. I have no issue with private religion.
Serah wrote:
When my Stepfather was dying, he did become closer to GOD as such, and started going to Church regularly, with my Mother, who went all her life. Cutting many stories of being there for others out, on the day of my Stepfathers funeral, held at their local Church, we had the ceremony and the Congregation of old friends attended, along with friends and family members. While we were outside watching the hearse drive off with the coffin, the Congregation of people laid out the supper and got ready the drinks etc, and we celebrated his life as one does when one is in mourning. Do you want to take those comforts away from people too?
No. I have no issue with private religion.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#485895 Feb 9, 2013
manoo wrote:
in india we use snail juice as spaghetti sauce with meatballs flyswatter like it too
That explains yer imposition.

Since: Mar 09

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#485896 Feb 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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How would you know, Dim? I've never spoken a word to you, and you are functionally illiterate for the written word.
<quoted text>
Sorry, Dim, but your vacant claims are worthless.
<quoted text>
I mean this with all due respect: you're an idiot. You don't seem smart enough to be able to swallow water without choking on it, Dim.
Do you want to see some of your lies again?

Skombolis wrote:
You also said you don't rule out the possibility of a creator god (but would require proof)

IANS responded
Nope. I'm not going to continue to correct you any more.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

I then went back and posted where you claimed you believe it is possible creator gods exist, just like you admitted you believed in here already.

Why did you lie IANS? I could never get you to answer in the other room

Since: Mar 09

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#485897 Feb 9, 2013
Why does IANS positions keep changing?

He said in here there may be a god but it certainty isn't Jesus or Allah.

Yet prior to this he conceded that very possibility. He said he believes there is probably intelligent life out there more intelligent than man. He said he believes it is possible creator gods exist. So he conceded he has no way of ruling it out that an intelligent creator god exists and that could be the very same God we worship as Christians.

This was in a very rare , rare moment of honesty So why has he resorted back to stating with a certainly Jesus or God as known through Christianity can't possibly exist?

Skombolis wrote:
"How ironic would it be if the ingtelliegent alient life you believe probably exists that is more intellient than man actually turned out to be the entity I know as God?

And there is no way you can conclusively rule that out."

IANS responded

"No, I cannot. But I don't see that as meaningful. From a lower primate's perspective, man is that more intelligent life. If they later develop language and a god urge, and want to think of us as their gods, that's irrelevant to any discussion of supernatural creator gods."

This is what dishonest people do. They will revert back to making the same claims so long as they think they can get away with it. You will notice he never responded when I asked him in here how could he say he knows for certain Jesus doesn't exist.

IANS doesn't care about honesty. His only concern is trying to make all Christians and the church look as bad as possible. And he will lie and be bigoted and do whatever he has to do in order to try to pull that off

Don't get me wrong, I think it is funny in a way as this is just the internet and nobody cares outside of the people in the rooms what we are posting and it isn't affecting anything in the real world for the most part and even in the little ways it may it is minor.But when you see him switch positions back and forth and deny things you know he just said, it isn't difficult to understand why. The man is not honest and purposely so in pursuit of his goal

Since: Mar 09

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#485898 Feb 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
My first priority is to get the church out of the lives of unbelievers in America.
<quoted text>
I don't like to see Christians proselytizing in foreign lands, but it's not an issue I concern myself with.
<quoted text>
Feel free to give. Just don't impose yourselves on anybody.
<quoted text>
No. I have no issue with private religion.
<quoted text>
No. I have no issue with private religion.
The constitution doesn't care if you have a problem with public religion

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#485899 Feb 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
They have no more access to any gods than I do..
In one sense, from my viewpoint, I would agree to that... Jesus died for all men BUT only few will be saved because of their own autonomous choices.

It aint necessarily so wrote:
I look at the world and am amazed as well.
Amen... relative to our own viewpoints of course.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Science shows us how the natural world operates.
I agree... but it doesn't tell you how the supernatural world operates. They may be able to use science to find that God-particle as they call it... but all they are going to find is a "particle'... they are not going to find God because God The Father is invisible.

"By faith we understand that time was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was made from things that are invisible." hebrews 11:3

It aint necessarily so wrote:
Then what objection could you possibly have to somebody believing anything else by faith? If a person were to say that he rejects Christianity on faith, his argument would be as good as yours.
That's what I've been saying all along... people still have faith no matter what. If Christianity is considered a philosophy by some, then so is Atheism and Agnosticism... they are also belief systems. It is just that they choose to put their faith in something else. Atheists aren't able to prove that God does not exist. Without absolute proofs, it takes a measure of faith to believe that God (The Creator) does not exist. But we don't think along those lines because it's secular mainstream. If worth+ship (worship) has valute then is it possible that evolutionists worship the creation rather than the Creator since they believe that the universe is "self-creating".

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#485900 Feb 9, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, you are trying to blame an organization representing millions upon millions of people because of what some members say. And I don't defend anyone who supports bigotry. I do defend the official policies which are to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ and that promote the teachings we are to love brother, enemy, and neighbor.
.. if you attend The Little Church On The Prairie, that's great! Along with fellowship, sometimes these small churches are a great benefit to the community they serve. That's their very purpose ..

.. my gripes are directed towards large, influential sects who:

1. Influence government to conform to the Christian worldview.

2. Spend obscene amounts of money to influence voters.

3. Encourage members to campaign for certain politicians.

4. Promote patriarchy disguised as family values.

5. Insist abortion must be eliminated regardless of circumstances.

6. Build mega-churches and sell DVDs/Books/CD's/Etc. under the non-profit umbrella.

7. Proselytize in poor Third World Countries.

8. Influence foreign governments to pass laws against homosexuality, abortion, witchcraft or anything they consider sinful.

.. your thoughts ??..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#485901 Feb 9, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
Sometimes, when I'm reading certain magazines, I yearn a lot.
Modern Jugs And Gardens?

Perhaps you read the Christian versions instead (from TopFive.com ):

Knockers on Heaven's Doors
Onward Christian Boulders
Mounds of Shame
The Pearly Weights
Hooteronomies
Racks of Lambs of God
First and Second Mammalonians
Pamela 36:D
Beelzeboobs

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#485902 Feb 9, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. if you attend The Little Church On The Prairie, that's great! Along with fellowship, sometimes these small churches are a great benefit to the community they serve. That's their very purpose ..
.. my gripes are directed towards large, influential sects who:
1. Influence government to conform to the Christian worldview.
2. Spend obscene amounts of money to influence voters.
3. Encourage members to campaign for certain politicians.
4. Promote patriarchy disguised as family values.
5. Insist abortion must be eliminated regardless of circumstances.
6. Build mega-churches and sell DVDs/Books/CD's/Etc. under the non-profit umbrella.
7. Proselytize in poor Third World Countries.
8. Influence foreign governments to pass laws against homosexuality, abortion, witchcraft or anything they consider sinful.
.. your thoughts ??..
How do you distinguish between churches that don't teach bigotry and try to do some good and churches that do?

Or do you even try and do you even think you should?

My problem is you have taken (and I don't mean this disrespectfully) the lazy way out. It is easy to broad-brush and stereotype and blame everybody rather than hold the guilty accountable. Plus you are angry about what some individuals in some churches teach but since for the most part you have no idea who should be the recipient of your anger you direct at the church in general. At least that is my opinion of what you do

I understand why you would be angry. But how does one combat bigotry with bigotry? And why would anyone take them serious?

Yes there are some members out of hundreds of millions that promote bigoted ideas. You can't just simply blame everyone around them. Well I mean you can but you shouldn't.

And this is what I don't get. You should see that you have people within the church that want things more mainstream. They want the focus to be on Jesus and his message of loving everyone and not targeting certain sins and certain sinners. The best chance for change is for it to come from within. Yet you want to attack the church as a whole alienating those that would be sympathetic to your cause

I understand that deep down you probably know not everyone is guilty. But it doesn't make any practical difference if you know that if your words don't reflect that

JMO

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#485903 Feb 9, 2013
mike wrote:
In this life "Hope" is necessary for survival those who believe in a GOD are saying to others,"please help, I'm hanging onto a thread of hope". Somebody anybody please help, that cry is to those who are in a position to help. You're not suppose to tell that person to "just keep believing a GOD is on the way".
Actually Mike, Hope is our anchor... those who genuinely trust Jesus are also "saved by hope"... I believe that is Romans.

"We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure..." hebrews 6:19

Come to think of it... 3 things remain after all is said and done... Faith, HOPE, & Love.

__________

Since: Mar 09

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#485904 Feb 9, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Why does IANS positions keep changing?
He said in here there may be a god but it certainty isn't Jesus or Allah.
Yet prior to this he conceded that very possibility. He said he believes there is probably intelligent life out there more intelligent than man. He said he believes it is possible creator gods exist. So he conceded he has no way of ruling it out that an intelligent creator god exists and that could be the very same God we worship as Christians.
This was in a very rare , rare moment of honesty So why has he resorted back to stating with a certainly Jesus or God as known through Christianity can't possibly exist?
Skombolis wrote:
"How ironic would it be if the ingtelliegent alient life you believe probably exists that is more intellient than man actually turned out to be the entity I know as God?
And there is no way you can conclusively rule that out."
IANS responded
"No, I cannot. But I don't see that as meaningful. From a lower primate's perspective, man is that more intelligent life. If they later develop language and a god urge, and want to think of us as their gods, that's irrelevant to any discussion of supernatural creator gods."
This is what dishonest people do. They will revert back to making the same claims so long as they think they can get away with it. You will notice he never responded when I asked him in here how could he say he knows for certain Jesus doesn't exist.
IANS doesn't care about honesty. His only concern is trying to make all Christians and the church look as bad as possible. And he will lie and be bigoted and do whatever he has to do in order to try to pull that off
Don't get me wrong, I think it is funny in a way as this is just the internet and nobody cares outside of the people in the rooms what we are posting and it isn't affecting anything in the real world for the most part and even in the little ways it may it is minor.But when you see him switch positions back and forth and deny things you know he just said, it isn't difficult to understand why. The man is not honest and purposely so in pursuit of his goal
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#485905 Feb 9, 2013
I remember recently how one of the leaders with Chick Fillet politely disagreed with Gay marriage sentiments and the like. He wasn't rude about it but still it caused a national uproar.

I tell you what... my wife and I were some of the Christians who joined with millions of other pro-traditional marriage advocates which came out to show support for Chick Fillet.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#485906 Feb 9, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
....what makes you think that God sees the world in the same light that you do?.....
Excellent question, never fully answered in thousands of years.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#485907 Feb 9, 2013
Skipped ahead.

If I didn't reply to anyone that asked me sometihing, I apologize.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#485908 Feb 9, 2013
Full comment found here, no disrespect intended:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Skombolis wrote:
Why does IANS positions keep changing?
I don’t think that they have. The discussion the two of you are having, seems to be suffering from a bit of a miscommunication in my opinion. Just because one may concede that the God we Christians believe in might possibly be, does not mean that they concede our own personal view of what God is.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#485909 Feb 9, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
I remember recently how one of the leaders with Chick Fillet politely disagreed with Gay marriage sentiments and the like. He wasn't rude about it but still it caused a national uproar.
I tell you what... my wife and I were some of the Christians who joined with millions of other pro-traditional marriage advocates which came out to show support for Chick Fillet.
I went to a Chik-Fillet and pretended I was gay and 'flirted' with the men working there as I ordered a sandwich. LOL

"Oh m'god!, you are sooooo cuuuute !" <in sterotypical 'flaming' voice"
Knowledge

United States

#485910 Feb 9, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think I think this is a horrible world? LOL.... far from it ~ if it is me you are referring to.
Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.....
I was told many years ago that I care too much; but I would not want to toughen up the care factor so that I become immune to things that would normally horrify me, I want to see the things for what they are.
There are many things in this world, that is horrifying. I working in the prison system, listened to so many horror stories, by ones own guilt. I went in thinking I could help change the world and maybe become a counselor. After being in the system for so many years, retired now. I realized that the counselors where there only to perform things for the inmate, such as education, their home and family information. They really didn't spend a half and hour a week with them. The officers spent 8 hour days. I could do nothing for them, unless they needed to see health care and sign them in and out. But, sometimes in life, all you need to do is listen to someone. WHen one is in an institution, some people just want to make things right, so they talk about it, You have to realize that some people will do anything for money, love, and greed. Just listening to someone gives more than anything you could ever do, in all walks of life. Sometimes you never have to say a word just let them talk. I use to live in a bubble of love, and innocence, but choosing that career I hoped that I somehow made an impact on some souls that felt they never had hope ever again. I was not allowed to talk about God, unless they asked me what my belief was. I still pray for some of those men, but, I will tell you that I have seen pure evil, some with a cold cold heart....some so scarey the other inmates would be afraid.....This world is very cruel, but it is also the most beautiful place . We sometimes allow are eyes to see only what we want them to see.....as long as we can hold on to the beauty of this world, as God's own creation...and hold on to the love of life of others, and never forget why we are here, our lives will not be in vain. I believe our lives have separate paths, we all have to travel, and everyone that is put in our paths are for a reason... It is our choice, on we we handle it... May God bless you always.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#485911 Feb 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>...No. I have no issue with private religion.
That is what most don't understand.

It seems that many on both sides of the issue have a "black and white" world view.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#485912 Feb 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I still don't see what your rebuttal could be to those that choose to believe any other thing possible.
That is why I stated a week or two ago that the Creationist/Evolutionist debates are fruitless because they cancel each other out because they are both based on faith... Now actually, I have to recant some of that on "fruitless" part because I did look up some evolutionary terms that I didn't know about before that I saw agreed with my own worldview even though it wasn't put out for that purpose. Kind of like the stone which the builders rejected the same had become the capstone.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I would call skepticism for the parts of science that contradict an irrational belief irrational skepticism, and even that is with misgivings, since skepticism implies doubt, not rejection out of hand.
Again, imho it depends on worldview. For a Creationist Scientist will see the same thing but come to a different conclusion that one who believes the universe to be self-creating.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#485913 Feb 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I went to a Chik-Fillet and pretended I was gay and 'flirted' with the men working there as I ordered a sandwich. LOL
"Oh m'god!, you are sooooo cuuuute !" <in sterotypical 'flaming' voice"
Yeah, I saw the gays were having some type of "kiss me" day in front of one of the Chick Fillets to protest. Was that you in the leopard leotard and tube socks? lol...

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